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2022-05-26 10:26:16 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> I'm have installed `xmonad` using stack following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvKAiR403O0&t=1003s... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c9c3f4017d0f9e251b96f71f840f37abd272…)
2022-05-26 10:27:48 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> I install `xmonad-dbus` from AUR but I don't understand how this works, should I add this as a dependency in `stack.yaml` file?
2022-05-26 10:46:50 +0200 <fizzie> What I do with stack is, I've got my own config under `packages: ...` in the top-level stack.yaml, and then in that package's own .cabal file I do `build-depends: ..., dbus >=1.2 && <1.3, ...`.
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2022-05-26 11:06:33 +0200 <Solid> yes you don't want to (and can't, really) mix stack and AUR packages
2022-05-26 11:08:32 +0200 <Solid> and you want to add xmonad-dbus to the build debends, not just dbus
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2022-05-26 16:37:35 +0200dcleonarski(~user@2804:d51:479c:4300:c312:71c1:ee9b:86ea)
2022-05-26 16:38:12 +0200 <dcleonarski> a quick tip for why isn't xmonad reloading my just-recompiled binary?
2022-05-26 16:38:33 +0200 <dcleonarski> an ls in my ~/.xmonad reveals: lib prompt-history xmonad-x86_64-linux xmonad.errors xmonad.hi xmonad.hs xmonad.o xpm
2022-05-26 16:38:59 +0200 <geekosaur> how do you know it's not reloading?
2022-05-26 16:40:26 +0200 <geekosaur> (if you changed something in your layout, you will need to press mod-shift-space to activate it; this is because xmonad can't tell the difference between edits in your config and changes made with e.g. mod-comma)
2022-05-26 16:47:17 +0200 <dcleonarski> I know it's not reloading because I've changed the name of a workspace and it's not reappearing in the xmobar
2022-05-26 16:47:50 +0200 <dcleonarski> after changing the xmonad.hs, I type "modkey-Q", which runs:
2022-05-26 16:47:55 +0200 <dcleonarski> , ((modm, xK_q), spawn "xmonad --recompile; xmonad --restart")
2022-05-26 16:48:09 +0200 <dcleonarski> I tried to run it manually in the terminal, but no success
2022-05-26 16:50:04 +0200 <dcleonarski> I have a simple array of strings defining my workspaces, and then pass it forward to a xcfeConfig call like this:
2022-05-26 16:50:13 +0200TheGreenPaper(~Thunderbi@2001:4651:433c:0:110e:e2c8:38f7:9bb1)
2022-05-26 16:50:14 +0200 <dcleonarski> , workspaces = myWorkspaces
2022-05-26 16:50:36 +0200 <dcleonarski> it's curious because it worked the first time I ran it
2022-05-26 16:50:51 +0200 <Solid> AFAIK workspaces are also held inside some state
2022-05-26 16:51:09 +0200 <Solid> you might need to quit X and properly restart xmonad
2022-05-26 16:51:57 +0200 <dcleonarski> I've already restarted the OS
2022-05-26 16:52:09 +0200 <dcleonarski> running Arch Linux
2022-05-26 16:52:22 +0200 <dcleonarski> $ uname -a Linux atlantis 5.15.35-1-lts #1 SMP Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:49:16 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
2022-05-26 16:52:50 +0200 <dcleonarski> ~/.xmonad/xmonad.errors is empty
2022-05-26 16:58:05 +0200 <Solid> what happens if you run `xmonad --recompile` in a terminal? how are you starting xmonad; perhaps there is some stray executable on your system
2022-05-26 17:00:33 +0200 <dcleonarski> $ xmonad --recompile
2022-05-26 17:00:34 +0200 <dcleonarski> XMonad will use ghc to recompile, because "/home/user/.config/xmonad/build" does not exist.
2022-05-26 17:00:34 +0200 <dcleonarski> XMonad recompilation process exited with success!
2022-05-26 17:01:02 +0200 <dcleonarski> hmmmm
2022-05-26 17:01:27 +0200 <dcleonarski> it looks like I have to clean that .config/xmonad?
2022-05-26 17:01:36 +0200 <dcleonarski> the stray you mentioned
2022-05-26 17:02:29 +0200 <geekosaur> changing a workspace name is a bit weird because it'll usually recreate the old one during mod-q because there are existing references to it, then stick the new one at the end. but this shouldn't persist across reboots
2022-05-26 17:02:48 +0200 <geekosaur> arch does have some odd issues but recompile usually cleans them up
2022-05-26 17:05:51 +0200 <Solid> `which -a xmonad` should at least tell you about other executables
2022-05-26 17:06:44 +0200 <dcleonarski> wow, 2 binaries, da heck
2022-05-26 17:07:20 +0200 <dcleonarski> I had installed theses 3 packages using aura/pacman: xmonad xmonad-contrib xmonad-utils
2022-05-26 17:10:24 +0200 <dcleonarski> $ aura -Qo /usr/bin/xmonad -> /usr/bin/xmonad is owned by xmonad 0.15-182
2022-05-26 17:10:24 +0200 <dcleonarski> $ aura -Qo /bin/xmonad -> /usr/bin/xmonad is owned by xmonad 0.15-182
2022-05-26 17:11:30 +0200 <geekosaur> that sounds like /bin might be symlinked to /usr/bin. some distros do that
2022-05-26 17:11:46 +0200 <geekosaur> (the distinction between them kinda went away with large hard drives)
2022-05-26 17:13:16 +0200 <dcleonarski> nope, both are ELF 64-bit binaries
2022-05-26 17:13:35 +0200 <dcleonarski> identical BuildID[sha1]
2022-05-26 17:13:52 +0200 <geekosaur> right. note that it claimed /usr/bin/xmonad for both
2022-05-26 17:13:55 +0200 <dcleonarski> trying to figure out why the same package is giving me duplicate binaries
2022-05-26 17:14:05 +0200 <geekosaur> that's why I think /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin
2022-05-26 17:14:31 +0200 <geekosaur> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/6IiHzvm0
2022-05-26 17:14:32 +0200 <dcleonarski> wow, true, didn't pay attention to the second call
2022-05-26 17:14:45 +0200 <dcleonarski> but why is the program "file" telling me it is a binary?
2022-05-26 17:14:57 +0200 <dcleonarski> ahh
2022-05-26 17:15:01 +0200 <dcleonarski> YES
2022-05-26 17:15:13 +0200 <dcleonarski> hahaha, sorry for the confusion
2022-05-26 17:15:20 +0200 <dcleonarski> Arch stuff
2022-05-26 17:15:26 +0200 <geekosaur> ubuntu does the same
2022-05-26 17:15:40 +0200 <dcleonarski> days ago I noticed the same pattern with "sh"
2022-05-26 17:15:42 +0200 <geekosaur> the distinction between the two is a historical artifact from the days of tiny hard drives
2022-05-26 17:15:53 +0200 <dcleonarski> hmmm, restricted path length
2022-05-26 17:16:25 +0200 <geekosaur> so / was just big enough to boot to the point of mounting /usr
2022-05-26 17:16:28 +0200 <dcleonarski> Ubuntu has symlinked "sh" to dash, whereas Arch has symlinked it to bash
2022-05-26 17:16:35 +0200 <geekosaur> yes
2022-05-26 17:18:16 +0200 <dcleonarski> in fact, I'm still trying to understand about xmonad's initialization... when I choose it in lightdm as my WM, do I need the .xinitrc calling "exec xmonad"?
2022-05-26 17:18:44 +0200 <geekosaur> probably not, that should use something in /usr/share/xsessions
2022-05-26 17:18:50 +0200 <geekosaur> but you have less control that way
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2022-05-26 18:25:54 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> <fizzie> "What I do with stack is, I've..." <- Can I get any documentation on how to set up xmonad with stack? I'm new to stack
2022-05-26 18:26:24 +0200 <valarMorghulis[m> > <@lladeebll:matrix.org> I'm have installed `xmonad` using stack following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvKAiR403O0&t=1003s... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f1efc7ab89a73f6736a47fc26b17a13a7c88…)
2022-05-26 18:26:26 +0200 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’
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2022-05-26 20:52:05 +0200HAL[m](~evadk8mat@2001:470:69fc:105::3ed0)
2022-05-26 21:11:39 +0200 <Solid> valarMorghulis[m: https://xmonad.org/INSTALL.html
2022-05-26 21:20:44 +0200rarufu[m](~rarufumat@2001:470:69fc:105::9589)
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2022-05-26 22:47:21 +0200 <bnchs__> hey
2022-05-26 22:47:41 +0200 <bnchs__> how do you switch workspaces in a keyboard layout that needs shift to type numbers
2022-05-26 22:47:57 +0200 <bnchs__> like AZERTY
2022-05-26 22:52:48 +0200 <geekosaur[m]> There's an AZERTY layout in contrib
2022-05-26 22:55:16 +0200 <bnchs__> alright thanks
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