| 2022-05-09 01:03:25 +0200 | <Hash> | ok | 
| 2022-05-09 01:03:32 +0200 | <Hash> | I need the link again | 
| 2022-05-09 01:03:39 +0200 | <Hash> | How do you use a bot | 
| 2022-05-09 01:03:55 +0200 | <Hash> | I need that KDE link my irc doesn't go so far back | 
| 2022-05-09 01:04:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | @where KDE | 
| 2022-05-09 01:04:05 +0200 | <lambdabot> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 | 
| 2022-05-09 01:04:18 +0200 | <Hash> | ty | 
| 2022-05-09 01:06:40 +0200 | <dminuoso> | geekosaur: mmm alright, then Ill just use `process`. | 
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| 2022-05-09 23:01:45 +0200 | <martin2222> | I just installed xmonad and default keybindings are not working | 
| 2022-05-09 23:01:58 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) | 
| 2022-05-09 23:02:08 +0200 | <martin2222> | Alt+P Alt+Shift+Enter all do nothing at all | 
| 2022-05-09 23:02:13 +0200 | unclechu | (~unclechu@2001:470:69fc:105::354) | 
| 2022-05-09 23:03:15 +0200 | <martin2222> | I configured a german keyboard layout for X11 | 
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| 2022-05-09 23:20:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | are you sure it's running? I would expect alt-shift-enter to work with most keyboard layouts, unless xterm isn't installed (many distributions don't install it any more, although debian at least changes it to run its x-terminal-emulator alternatives selector) | 
| 2022-05-09 23:25:21 +0200 | <martin2222> | xterm is installed | 
| 2022-05-09 23:26:03 +0200 | <martin2222> | Is it normal for the session to depend on an xterm terminal emulator | 
| 2022-05-09 23:26:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the default terminal emulator is xterm, unless otherwise configured. as I said, debian does configure it otherwise. you're at the mercy of your distribution in other cases | 
| 2022-05-09 23:27:11 +0200 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc19:d600:d488:150b:e66b:f592) | 
| 2022-05-09 23:27:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but I'd guess if you have it installed then xmonad isn't running. are you using startx, or a display manager login? | 
| 2022-05-09 23:27:57 +0200 | <martin2222> | startx | 
| 2022-05-09 23:28:15 +0200 | <martin2222> | So it's only running X? | 
| 2022-05-09 23:28:17 +0200 | <martin2222> | makes sense | 
| 2022-05-09 23:28:23 +0200 | aliosablack | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc19:d600:d488:150b:e66b:f592) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 
| 2022-05-09 23:28:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | huh. is there anything in ~/.config/xmonad or ~/.xmonad? | 
| 2022-05-09 23:29:15 +0200 | <martin2222> | I haven't configured anything yet to be fair, but I assumed the default keybindings would be working | 
| 2022-05-09 23:29:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I would expect them to be | 
| 2022-05-09 23:29:46 +0200 | <martin2222> | maybe I have to configure X to find xmonad | 
| 2022-05-09 23:30:04 +0200 | <martin2222> | I installed xmonad first assuming it would pull in X as dependency | 
| 2022-05-09 23:30:31 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it should, and startx would fail (loudly) if it didn't. or simply wouldn't be there | 
| 2022-05-09 23:30:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | how did you run startx? | 
| 2022-05-09 23:31:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you simply did `startx` then what happens will depend on what's in your .xinitrc, or if that doesn't exist then the system xinitrc which won't know about xmonad | 
| 2022-05-09 23:31:17 +0200 | <martin2222> | as user from tty1 | 
| 2022-05-09 23:34:57 +0200 | <martin2222> | I can't find .xinitrc in either /etc/X11/xinit/ or ~/.local/share/xorg | 
| 2022-05-09 23:35:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it will simply be xinitrc there, the . version is for your homedir | 
| 2022-05-09 23:37:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | on my system it runs /etc/X11/Xsession, which depends on what you have installed (on my system it runs MATE) | 
| 2022-05-09 23:37:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (I'm on Ubuntu. This *will* vary by distribution) | 
| 2022-05-09 23:37:31 +0200 | <martin2222> | no mention of xmonad there. Should there be? | 
| 2022-05-09 23:37:44 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if it's not mentioned then it won't be running xmonad | 
| 2022-05-09 23:38:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | probably I'd just do `startx /usr/bin/xmonad` (it must be a full path for historical reasons) | 
| 2022-05-09 23:38:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you installed it manually then you'll want to use the path to wherever it's installed | 
| 2022-05-09 23:39:07 +0200 | <martin2222> | ah now it works | 
| 2022-05-09 23:39:28 +0200 | <martin2222> | but how can I configure this in xinitrc | 
| 2022-05-09 23:39:42 +0200 | <martin2222> | ? so I don't have to always include the path | 
| 2022-05-09 23:40:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | create ~/.xinitrc which runs xmonad (there you don't need the full path, that's just a startx thing) | 
| 2022-05-09 23:41:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | make sure to start with "#! /bin/sh" and "chmod +x ~/.xinitrc" after creating it | 
| 2022-05-09 23:47:08 +0200 | <martin2222> | I put  "exec startx /usr/bin/xmonad" in there and it fails with no screens found | 
| 2022-05-09 23:48:03 +0200 | <martin2222> | or should I simply use the other xinitrc | 
| 2022-05-09 23:48:11 +0200 | <martin2222> | and put the path there | 
| 2022-05-09 23:49:13 +0200 | <martin2222> | well startx launching startx might not be a good idea | 
| 2022-05-09 23:49:34 +0200 | <martin2222> | Anyways what shall I put inside that xinit script then? | 
| 2022-05-09 23:52:40 +0200 | <martin2222> | ah now it works | 
| 2022-05-09 23:53:00 +0200 | <martin2222> | obvs just execute /usr/bin/xmonad | 
| 2022-05-09 23:54:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | right | 
| 2022-05-09 23:54:31 +0200 | <geekosaur> | startx takes care of launching the server, you only need to tell it about xmonad | 
| 2022-05-09 23:56:47 +0200 | <martin2222> | thank you |