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2022-05-09 21:01:45 +0000 <martin2222> I just installed xmonad and default keybindings are not working
2022-05-09 21:01:58 +0000liskin[m](~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768)
2022-05-09 21:02:08 +0000 <martin2222> Alt+P Alt+Shift+Enter all do nothing at all
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2022-05-09 21:03:15 +0000 <martin2222> I configured a german keyboard layout for X11
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2022-05-09 21:20:28 +0000 <geekosaur> are you sure it's running? I would expect alt-shift-enter to work with most keyboard layouts, unless xterm isn't installed (many distributions don't install it any more, although debian at least changes it to run its x-terminal-emulator alternatives selector)
2022-05-09 21:25:21 +0000 <martin2222> xterm is installed
2022-05-09 21:26:03 +0000 <martin2222> Is it normal for the session to depend on an xterm terminal emulator
2022-05-09 21:26:59 +0000 <geekosaur> the default terminal emulator is xterm, unless otherwise configured. as I said, debian does configure it otherwise. you're at the mercy of your distribution in other cases
2022-05-09 21:27:11 +0000chomwitt(~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc19:d600:d488:150b:e66b:f592)
2022-05-09 21:27:39 +0000 <geekosaur> but I'd guess if you have it installed then xmonad isn't running. are you using startx, or a display manager login?
2022-05-09 21:27:57 +0000 <martin2222> startx
2022-05-09 21:28:15 +0000 <martin2222> So it's only running X?
2022-05-09 21:28:17 +0000 <martin2222> makes sense
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2022-05-09 21:28:33 +0000 <geekosaur> huh. is there anything in ~/.config/xmonad or ~/.xmonad?
2022-05-09 21:29:15 +0000 <martin2222> I haven't configured anything yet to be fair, but I assumed the default keybindings would be working
2022-05-09 21:29:27 +0000 <geekosaur> I would expect them to be
2022-05-09 21:29:46 +0000 <martin2222> maybe I have to configure X to find xmonad
2022-05-09 21:30:04 +0000 <martin2222> I installed xmonad first assuming it would pull in X as dependency
2022-05-09 21:30:31 +0000 <geekosaur> it should, and startx would fail (loudly) if it didn't. or simply wouldn't be there
2022-05-09 21:30:36 +0000 <geekosaur> how did you run startx?
2022-05-09 21:31:08 +0000 <geekosaur> if you simply did `startx` then what happens will depend on what's in your .xinitrc, or if that doesn't exist then the system xinitrc which won't know about xmonad
2022-05-09 21:31:17 +0000 <martin2222> as user from tty1
2022-05-09 21:34:57 +0000 <martin2222> I can't find .xinitrc in either /etc/X11/xinit/ or ~/.local/share/xorg
2022-05-09 21:35:51 +0000 <geekosaur> it will simply be xinitrc there, the . version is for your homedir
2022-05-09 21:37:09 +0000 <geekosaur> on my system it runs /etc/X11/Xsession, which depends on what you have installed (on my system it runs MATE)
2022-05-09 21:37:29 +0000 <geekosaur> (I'm on Ubuntu. This *will* vary by distribution)
2022-05-09 21:37:31 +0000 <martin2222> no mention of xmonad there. Should there be?
2022-05-09 21:37:44 +0000 <geekosaur> if it's not mentioned then it won't be running xmonad
2022-05-09 21:38:09 +0000 <geekosaur> probably I'd just do `startx /usr/bin/xmonad` (it must be a full path for historical reasons)
2022-05-09 21:38:46 +0000 <geekosaur> if you installed it manually then you'll want to use the path to wherever it's installed
2022-05-09 21:39:07 +0000 <martin2222> ah now it works
2022-05-09 21:39:28 +0000 <martin2222> but how can I configure this in xinitrc
2022-05-09 21:39:42 +0000 <martin2222> ? so I don't have to always include the path
2022-05-09 21:40:24 +0000 <geekosaur> create ~/.xinitrc which runs xmonad (there you don't need the full path, that's just a startx thing)
2022-05-09 21:41:08 +0000 <geekosaur> make sure to start with "#! /bin/sh" and "chmod +x ~/.xinitrc" after creating it
2022-05-09 21:47:08 +0000 <martin2222> I put "exec startx /usr/bin/xmonad" in there and it fails with no screens found
2022-05-09 21:48:03 +0000 <martin2222> or should I simply use the other xinitrc
2022-05-09 21:48:11 +0000 <martin2222> and put the path there
2022-05-09 21:49:13 +0000 <martin2222> well startx launching startx might not be a good idea
2022-05-09 21:49:34 +0000 <martin2222> Anyways what shall I put inside that xinit script then?
2022-05-09 21:52:40 +0000 <martin2222> ah now it works
2022-05-09 21:53:00 +0000 <martin2222> obvs just execute /usr/bin/xmonad
2022-05-09 21:54:14 +0000 <geekosaur> right
2022-05-09 21:54:31 +0000 <geekosaur> startx takes care of launching the server, you only need to tell it about xmonad
2022-05-09 21:56:47 +0000 <martin2222> thank you
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2022-05-09 22:28:58 +0000 <M-elo-[m]> Don't know how to search for this and thus I am here to ask, does `activeColor` only support hex format?
2022-05-09 22:33:11 +0000 <geekosaur> all the color specifications should accept any valid X11 cdolor specification including names from the color database and rgbi: format
2022-05-09 22:37:04 +0000 <M-elo-[m]> Good to know!
2022-05-09 22:38:45 +0000 <geekosaur> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ysJtgJRg full details (from `man 7 X`)
2022-05-09 22:44:58 +0000 <M-elo-[m]> I wish more software would support the hsl format
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