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| 2022-04-11 04:18:54 +0200 |  <abastro[m]>  | Yea, "Clean code" recommends defining named function for many trivial-looking things | 
| 2022-04-11 04:39:48 +0200 | banc | (banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) | 
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| 2022-04-11 08:19:55 +0200 |  <tdammers>  | No offense, but there's a lot of bullshit in the Clean Code book, and even more bullshit touted by all sorts of people under the "clean code" umbrella | 
| 2022-04-11 08:33:57 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) | 
| 2022-04-11 08:35:31 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | maybe, but _this_ function is excellent. | 
| 2022-04-11 08:41:38 +0200 |  <tdammers>  | Sure, nothing wrong with naming things. As long as those things are tangible enough to be named, that is. But if you try to condense that into a nice soundbitey rule, you just get "things that deserve to be named should be named", so... meh | 
| 2022-04-11 08:45:51 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | oh, you mean the namey-names rule. ;-) | 
| 2022-04-11 09:10:32 +0200 |  <tdammers>  | Yeah. Naming things just because they exist. | 
| 2022-04-11 09:45:45 +0200 | mohab | (~mohab@156.223.48.148) | 
| 2022-04-11 09:46:18 +0200 | mohab | (~mohab@156.223.48.148) (Client Quit) | 
| 2022-04-11 09:48:25 +0200 | abhixec | (~abhixec@c-67-169-139-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Remote host closed the connection) | 
| 2022-04-11 09:59:38 +0200 |  <abastro[m]>  | tdammers: Well yeah, I agree. Nevertheless, beginners seem to find it as a golden standard. Lol | 
| 2022-04-11 09:59:50 +0200 |  <abastro[m]>  | Likely lots of ppl in industry would do so as well | 
| 2022-04-11 10:00:45 +0200 |  <abastro[m]>  | "Deserve names, Should be named" could be hard for beginners at least tbh | 
| 2022-04-11 10:01:15 +0200 |  <abastro[m]>  | Tho ye I guess it makes more sense where simple null checks could mean `isLeaf` of tree | 
| 2022-04-11 10:10:18 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 
| 2022-04-11 11:00:14 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) | 
| 2022-04-11 11:32:29 +0200 |  <Solid>  | I've never heard a beginner mention that book ever | 
| 2022-04-11 11:32:42 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) | 
| 2022-04-11 11:32:57 +0200 | m5zs7k | (~m5zs7k@web10.mydevil.net) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 
| 2022-04-11 11:37:41 +0200 | m5zs7k | (aquares@web10.mydevil.net) | 
| 2022-04-11 11:59:17 +0200 | Natch | (~natch@c-67bae255.014-297-73746f25.bbcust.telenor.se) (Remote host closed the connection) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:02:58 +0200 | banc | (banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:03:21 +0200 | vanvik | (~vanvik@78.156.12.223) (Quit: Later) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:03:47 +0200 | vanvik | (~vanvik@78.156.12.223) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:06:31 +0200 | Natch | (~natch@c-67bae255.014-297-73746f25.bbcust.telenor.se) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:08:43 +0200 | banc | (banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:09:21 +0200 |  <tdammers>  | No, but it is often recommended *to* beginners, or people just past the beginner stage. | 
| 2022-04-11 12:11:12 +0200 | Natch | (~natch@c-67bae255.014-297-73746f25.bbcust.telenor.se) (Remote host closed the connection) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:13:30 +0200 |  <liskin>  | I'd argue that no single book should be taken as gospel (pun very much intended). | 
| 2022-04-11 12:15:05 +0200 | Natch | (~natch@c-67bae255.014-297-73746f25.bbcust.telenor.se) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:28:49 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@92-249-159-213.pool.digikabel.hu) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:29:00 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@92-249-159-213.pool.digikabel.hu) (Client Quit) | 
| 2022-04-11 12:41:36 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) | 
| 2022-04-11 13:19:16 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | is spawnOnce a suitable replacement for spawn "pgrep xmobar >/dev/null || exec xmobar"? | 
| 2022-04-11 13:20:08 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | from what i understand, it wouldn't work if xmobar might be running somewhere else, but in my case i'm not starting it anywhere else, so it should be ok. | 
| 2022-04-11 13:20:14 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | s/running/started/ | 
| 2022-04-11 13:23:47 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | on the other hand, when i change my xmonad.hs and restart, i expect it'll re-spawn everything. maybe it's not worth changing. | 
| 2022-04-11 13:24:15 +0200 |  <liskin>  | amenonsen: have you seen https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0.9/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar.html ? That thing will spawn it for you, and also kill/restart it when needed. | 
| 2022-04-11 13:24:41 +0200 |  <liskin>  | Especially useful for per-screen xmobars if one expects to (dis)connect outputs dynamically. | 
| 2022-04-11 13:24:55 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | oh! | 
| 2022-04-11 13:24:57 +0200 |  <liskin>  | amenonsen: BTW thanks for reporting on your experiences with sway, that's really appreciated | 
| 2022-04-11 13:25:18 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | i was looking at moving from DynamicLog to StatusBar, but i didn't realise it could start xmobar for me too. | 
| 2022-04-11 13:25:46 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | (i'm using the spawn/pgrep trick to start other programs too, dunst, stalonetray, xss-lock, etc.) | 
| 2022-04-11 13:26:01 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | liskin: thanks. it was an interesting experience for sure. | 
| 2022-04-11 13:26:07 +0200 |  <liskin>  | some stuff in DynamicLog already did start it for you, but only the property-based logging stuff, not the pipe-based | 
| 2022-04-11 13:26:50 +0200 | liskin | starts the other stuff via systemd, takes care of restarting too | 
| 2022-04-11 13:27:03 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | the funny thing is, screen tearing under X has never bothered me very much, but i'm finding it ridiculously obtrusive now. i honestly can't figure out if it's worse on this new machine where i've never run X before, or if it's like it always was, and i'm just noticing it more now. | 
| 2022-04-11 13:27:24 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | but i think it actually IS worse on this machine. | 
| 2022-04-11 13:27:54 +0200 |  <liskin>  | if you've used x86-video-intel in the past, as many of us had at some point, chances are tearing was indeed not a problem historically | 
| 2022-04-11 13:29:31 +0200 |  <liskin>  | but it's no longer maintained and crashes a lot more than the modesetting driver, so distros no longer use it, and everyone needs to run a compositor these days | 
| 2022-04-11 13:30:23 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | oh | 
| 2022-04-11 13:32:35 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | like picom? | 
| 2022-04-11 13:32:53 +0200 |  <liskin>  | like that, yes | 
| 2022-04-11 13:35:57 +0200 | carloratm | (carloratm@tilde.club) () | 
| 2022-04-11 13:37:56 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Remote host closed the connection) | 
| 2022-04-11 13:38:16 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) | 
| 2022-04-11 13:38:35 +0200 |  <mion>  | xf86-video-intel is still maintained | 
| 2022-04-11 13:38:44 +0200 |  <mion>  | (but modesetting is generally better) | 
| 2022-04-11 13:40:12 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | yikes | 
| 2022-04-11 13:40:26 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | (i just started picom) | 
| 2022-04-11 13:40:37 +0200 |  <mion>  | default picom config is pretty bad | 
| 2022-04-11 13:40:59 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | thank you for giving me some hope that it may be possible to make it better :-) | 
| 2022-04-11 13:41:11 +0200 |  <mion>  | it does silly things like make right click menus transparent | 
| 2022-04-11 13:41:44 +0200 |  <liskin>  | amenonsen: it will make some things better and other things worse :-D | 
| 2022-04-11 13:53:53 +0200 |  <liskin>  | mion: oh, interesting; having last released 7 years ago and having last pushed a year ago gives a different impression, though :-) | 
| 2022-04-11 13:56:32 +0200 |  <mion>  | liskin: intel for some reason insist on keeping their own copy of it instead of upstreaming :/ | 
| 2022-04-11 13:58:49 +0200 |  <liskin>  | mion: where does one find that copy? | 
| 2022-04-11 13:59:19 +0200 |  <mion>  | liskin: don't have the url at hand. Intel added support for their new dgpus and stuff to it | 
| 2022-04-11 13:59:54 +0200 |  <mion>  | wouldn't be surprised if its some big corporate that insists on using the driver and intel catering to them | 
| 2022-04-11 14:00:13 +0200 | sagax | (~sagax_nb@user/sagax) | 
| 2022-04-11 14:04:27 +0200 |  <amenonsen>  | btw, i've started using a NamedScratchpad to run insect.sh (a calculator with a text interface). it's pretty handy. | 
| 2022-04-11 14:15:05 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) | 
| 2022-04-11 14:21:33 +0200 | Czernobog | (~Czernobog@user/czernobog) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 
| 2022-04-11 14:22:34 +0200 | Czernobog | (~Czernobog@user/czernobog) | 
| 2022-04-11 14:56:45 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Does anyone how i can only have borders on focused window? | 
| 2022-04-11 14:57:09 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Not on inactive windows/recent windows.. | 
| 2022-04-11 15:00:05 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | that's somewhat difficult to do | 
| 2022-04-11 15:00:41 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | and there would be a lot of flickering, because you'd have to do it in the logHook so every time something changed all the borders would flicker | 
| 2022-04-11 15:01:35 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | I just set the inactive border color to the same as my gtk theme's window color so it's not obvious | 
| 2022-04-11 15:02:26 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | geekosaur: Cleaver | 
| 2022-04-11 15:02:32 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Clever* | 
| 2022-04-11 15:02:58 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | But isnt that the norm window border color? | 
| 2022-04-11 15:03:08 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | How do i change inactive window color? | 
| 2022-04-11 15:03:31 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | inactiveBorderColor is one of the things you can set in the config record | 
| 2022-04-11 15:04:19 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | sorry, it's normalBorderColor as opposed ot activeBorderColor | 
| 2022-04-11 15:04:21 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L89 | 
| 2022-04-11 15:06:53 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Hmm | 
| 2022-04-11 15:09:20 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | are you really seeing recent windows colored differently? I think that's a specific module that does that | 
| 2022-04-11 15:09:26 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | not default behavior | 
| 2022-04-11 15:31:02 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | <geekosaur> "are you really seeing recent..." <- What module? | 
| 2022-04-11 15:31:27 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | How do i stop this behavior? | 
| 2022-04-11 15:41:00 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | I don't recall the module offhand | 
| 2022-04-11 15:41:17 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | also I thought it only did that when activated (for window selection). this sounds odd | 
| 2022-04-11 15:41:30 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | can you pastebin your current config? | 
| 2022-04-11 15:41:34 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | @where paste | 
| 2022-04-11 15:41:34 +0200 |  <lambdabot>  | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com | 
| 2022-04-11 16:16:41 +0200 | syg_ | (~syg@flamebot.net) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:17:00 +0200 | nomadxx3 | (~lanomadx@69.167.45.235) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:17:51 +0200 | syg | (~syg@flamebot.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:18:39 +0200 | nomadxxxx3 | (~lanomadx@69.167.45.235) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:19:08 +0200 | Rockj | (~rockj@chromie.geekrevolution.net) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:21:11 +0200 | Rockj | (~rockj@chromie.geekrevolution.net) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:28:47 +0200 | noex | (~null@user/noex) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:30:47 +0200 | noex | (~null@user/noex) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:32:20 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | <geekosaur> "can you pastebin your current..." <- Hmm | 
| 2022-04-11 16:32:31 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Giimmme 2 mins.m | 
| 2022-04-11 16:47:19 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | geekosaur: its in my github.. | 
| 2022-04-11 16:47:40 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | https://github.com/Ahanaf-Ether/xmonad/blob/stable/xmonad.hs | 
| 2022-04-11 16:48:15 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:48:35 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) | 
| 2022-04-11 16:59:55 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | it's WindowNavigation, looks like | 
| 2022-04-11 17:00:58 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | the documentation is unfortunate but it comes with a WNConfig that disables the feature (noNavigateBorders) | 
| 2022-04-11 17:18:53 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | No way to disable? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:21:11 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | geekosaur | 
| 2022-04-11 17:27:55 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | You have to replace `windowNavigation` with `configurableNavigation noNavigateBorders` everywhere it appears | 
| 2022-04-11 17:30:55 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | How i do that? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:31:30 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | edit your config? search and replace is in pretty much every editor | 
| 2022-04-11 17:32:34 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Ohh | 
| 2022-04-11 17:32:43 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Just like that? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:32:49 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | yes | 
| 2022-04-11 17:32:50 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Isnt that a function? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:33:14 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | So that will throw an error? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:33:20 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | yes but your config is already set up so you can just replace one with the other | 
| 2022-04-11 17:33:43 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Do change it everywhere? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:33:53 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Excluding import.. | 
| 2022-04-11 17:34:02 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | theimport starts with uppercase | 
| 2022-04-11 17:34:07 +0200 | jao | (~jao@cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net) | 
| 2022-04-11 17:34:16 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | if you do a case-matching search and replace it'll just work | 
| 2022-04-11 17:34:30 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Ohh so all lowercase ones? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:34:33 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Roger.. | 
| 2022-04-11 17:36:43 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Throws an error | 
| 2022-04-11 17:37:14 +0200 | Ether[m] | uploaded an image: (161KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/BNkpghrdaUpeqBlVSdluUiij/20220411_213… > | 
| 2022-04-11 17:37:15 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | geekosaur | 
| 2022-04-11 17:38:35 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | My bad no space* | 
| 2022-04-11 17:38:59 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | No luck same behavior:( | 
| 2022-04-11 17:39:56 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | hm, you imported it without a list so it should work, and I'm using the 0.15 docs so it should be there | 
| 2022-04-11 17:40:52 +0200 | Guest53 | (~Guest53@190.192.80.102) | 
| 2022-04-11 17:41:12 +0200 | Ether[m] | uploaded an image: (160KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/iHzJSIuTWNDAYUpGUdxMJwvj/20220411_213… > | 
| 2022-04-11 17:41:48 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | The less bright border is what i dont want.. | 
| 2022-04-11 17:42:08 +0200 |  <Guest53>  | I would like to ask how i can get a transparent xmobar. I tryed setting alpha = 0, in the config file but nothing happens. Thanks | 
| 2022-04-11 17:42:58 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Guest53: Picom.. | 
| 2022-04-11 17:43:09 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | You need to use a compositor.. | 
| 2022-04-11 17:43:45 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Compton/picom one that supports transparency.. | 
| 2022-04-11 17:44:20 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Find class name for xmobar and set your picom config. Thats the general take.. | 
| 2022-04-11 17:44:32 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Guest53 | 
| 2022-04-11 17:46:35 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | Ether[m], you have that all over the place. you should probably pick one place to put it, not everywhere it could possibly appear… | 
| 2022-04-11 17:46:36 +0200 |  <Guest53>  | Ok, i am absolute layman with picom, how may I do what you suggested? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:47:13 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | geekosaur: ? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:48:02 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Guest53: What distro are you on? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:48:04 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | Guest53, https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/compton.conf#L11-L14 but you want to include it instead of excluding it (the key line is 13, but you want to match xmobar's window class instead) | 
| 2022-04-11 17:48:25 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | Ether[m], I copied your config over here so I could see what was going wrong | 
| 2022-04-11 17:48:38 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Oo | 
| 2022-04-11 17:48:39 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | you have 10 different copies of `windowNavigation` | 
| 2022-04-11 17:48:48 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Yes | 
| 2022-04-11 17:48:51 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | And? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:48:58 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | one in each layout, one in myLayouts, and one where you use myLayouts | 
| 2022-04-11 17:48:59 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | For each layout.. | 
| 2022-04-11 17:49:12 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Yess. | 
| 2022-04-11 17:49:14 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | so you're applyingt it 3 times | 
| 2022-04-11 17:49:27 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Ohh | 
| 2022-04-11 17:49:31 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | So where should i apply it? | 
| 2022-04-11 17:49:39 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | For all/globally | 
| 2022-04-11 17:50:32 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | you only need the one on line 538, the layoutHook definition | 
| 2022-04-11 17:50:46 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Thanks | 
| 2022-04-11 17:52:07 +0200 |  <Guest53>  | Thanks, ill give it a try | 
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| 2022-04-11 17:52:39 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | geekosaur: your a genius:) | 
| 2022-04-11 17:52:43 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | and yes, any time you want to use alpha you need a compositor | 
| 2022-04-11 17:53:04 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | some terminals can "fake" it but it's imperfect, and it's only terminals | 
| 2022-04-11 17:56:11 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | which means just setting alpha might be enough as long as picom is running | 
| 2022-04-11 17:56:49 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | (feel free to copy my config though, it's nicer than the default. unless you prefer inactive transparency to inactive dim,  but I find that unreadable) | 
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| 2022-04-11 18:48:42 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | geekosaur i am really struggling trying to get swapping windows directional as expected 😫 | 
| 2022-04-11 18:49:11 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | When i swap master window i cant move left.. | 
| 2022-04-11 18:51:02 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Window navigation2d doesn't know which window was last focused.. but windowNavigation does but swap wont work :( | 
| 2022-04-11 18:53:43 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | I'm not sure I can help; I don't work with these layouts much, but I know they're kinda abusing xmonad a bit | 
| 2022-04-11 18:54:48 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Any ideas? | 
| 2022-04-11 18:55:21 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | I hate having to itterate again and agin just to get to left or right windows.. | 
| 2022-04-11 18:55:31 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | And i hate wrapping in general.. | 
| 2022-04-11 18:56:37 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | not really, no | 
| 2022-04-11 18:56:50 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | maybe someone else here has an idea | 
| 2022-04-11 18:57:12 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | (also I'm shortly going to be away for a couple of hours) | 
| 2022-04-11 18:57:38 +0200 | geekosaur | 's apartment has bedbugs. they're spraying every few weeks | 
| 2022-04-11 18:58:13 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | (speaking of iterating…) | 
| 2022-04-11 18:58:35 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | Haha | 
| 2022-04-11 18:58:48 +0200 |  <Ether[m]>  | See ya! | 
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| 2022-04-11 21:49:39 +0200 |  <anon_kun600[m]>  | how do I make it to where xmonad' | 
| 2022-04-11 21:49:45 +0200 |  <anon_kun600[m]>  | error messages actually are readable to me | 
| 2022-04-11 21:49:49 +0200 |  <anon_kun600[m]>  | how do I change font color | 
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| 2022-04-11 22:14:49 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | hm. normally it uses xmessage and the font is black on white | 
| 2022-04-11 22:15:36 +0200 |  <geekosaur>  | did your distro replace xmessage perhaps? or you have a gtk settings manager that also sets resources, in which case you would have to change it there somehow | 
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