| 2022-03-10 00:26:10 +0100 | jenifer | (~jenifer@097-085-050-159.res.spectrum.com) |
| 2022-03-10 00:32:40 +0100 | <jenifer> | Ok ill probably be laughed out of here but I am gonna ask anyway. Do people sometimes get tired of Haskell updates breaking there system and they just never update? lol |
| 2022-03-10 00:34:40 +0100 | <liskin> | jenifer: yes |
| 2022-03-10 00:34:56 +0100 | <jenifer> | Am I stupid to think of never updating? |
| 2022-03-10 00:35:23 +0100 | <jenifer> | Is there some kinda flag I can use when doing updates in terminal that block Haskell based updates? |
| 2022-03-10 00:35:41 +0100 | <liskin> | quite likely even distro maintainers get tired (and by tired I mean burned out) and stop maintaining stuff :-) |
| 2022-03-10 00:35:59 +0100 | <liskin> | Haskell stuff in Debian has been stuck for over a year |
| 2022-03-10 00:36:12 +0100 | <jenifer> | I use Arch |
| 2022-03-10 00:36:19 +0100 | <jenifer> | Thus get updates all the time |
| 2022-03-10 00:36:47 +0100 | <jenifer> | Silly thing is xmonad compiles fine lol but still wont load past light dm |
| 2022-03-10 00:36:49 +0100 | <liskin> | oh, well, that's bad |
| 2022-03-10 00:37:00 +0100 | <liskin> | arch doesn't let you do partial updates |
| 2022-03-10 00:37:22 +0100 | <liskin> | so you're either going to be running insecure stuff, or you'll have to accept that updates break stuff |
| 2022-03-10 00:38:10 +0100 | <jenifer> | Well I mean its only three files for me. I use Polybar so one config for it and auto start and xmonad.hs file |
| 2022-03-10 00:38:13 +0100 | <liskin> | what many people do is install haskell stuff using stack/cabal/ghcup instead of using arch packages |
| 2022-03-10 00:39:02 +0100 | <jenifer> | I mean if I just did a fresh install every 6mo should not be end of the world? |
| 2022-03-10 00:40:57 +0100 | <liskin> | well everyone will tell you it's a really bad idea because security |
| 2022-03-10 00:40:58 +0100 | <jenifer> | I can use Octopi to update one or two programs . I wonder if there is some kinda plugin or something that can be used with it to filter out things |
| 2022-03-10 00:41:15 +0100 | <liskin> | realistically as long as you keep your browser updated, it may very well be just fine :-) |
| 2022-03-10 00:41:20 +0100 | <liskin> | but don't tell anyone I told you |
| 2022-03-10 00:45:59 +0100 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) (Quit: :wq) |
| 2022-03-10 00:46:32 +0100 | <jenifer> | Well I figured id ask |
| 2022-03-10 00:46:35 +0100 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | <liskin> "what many people do is install..." <- I installed xmonad using pacman |
| 2022-03-10 00:46:36 +0100 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | It was old |
| 2022-03-10 00:46:44 +0100 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | 0.15 I think |
| 2022-03-10 00:47:53 +0100 | <jenifer> | Well I can drop into terminal and Arch is still working even my neofetch is there lol. So its Xmonad not starting up |
| 2022-03-10 00:48:18 +0100 | <jenifer> | It compiled fine before the reboot and says its compiling fine from terminal at login screen lol |
| 2022-03-10 00:49:51 +0100 | <jenifer> | I have something like this happen before and next day was fresh updates and boom it started working agian lol |
| 2022-03-10 00:50:49 +0100 | <jenifer> | I was looking at i3 but not sure ill like the Tree format |
| 2022-03-10 00:51:57 +0100 | spider__ | (~spider@vps-951ce37a.vps.ovh.ca) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-03-10 00:58:27 +0100 | <jenifer> | Ok well I think I am gonna try a reinstall and just replace the configs with mine |
| 2022-03-10 00:59:40 +0100 | <jenifer> | Thanks :) |
| 2022-03-10 01:01:26 +0100 | jenifer | (~jenifer@097-085-050-159.res.spectrum.com) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2022-03-10 01:26:11 +0100 | _bfrk | (~Thunderbi@2001:9e8:356:fe00:1928:a910:1b2f:d635) |
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| 2022-03-10 04:41:00 +0100 | Guest21 | (~Guest21@185.183.97.187) |
| 2022-03-10 04:42:37 +0100 | <Guest21> | is it possible to implement DWM like tags into XMonad nicely? CopyWindows works for assigning window to multiple workspaces, but there isn't a way to toggle tags/workspaces into view like in DWM? |
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| 2022-03-10 10:22:34 +0100 | ArshiaAghaei[m] | sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f8b0b21f0aaa814c86121ab0e3dc4d14641d… |
| 2022-03-10 10:22:35 +0100 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | I get this when using a language server on xmonad.hs |
| 2022-03-10 10:30:04 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
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| 2022-03-10 12:53:07 +0100 | <liskin> | ArshiaAghaei[m]: HLS makes it hard/impossible to create a configuration that would make it work with xmonad.hs |
| 2022-03-10 12:53:36 +0100 | <liskin> | especially when one uses stack |
| 2022-03-10 13:16:46 +0100 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by allbery_b))) |
| 2022-03-10 13:16:48 +0100 | allbery_b | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) |
| 2022-03-10 13:16:51 +0100 | allbery_b | geekosaur |
| 2022-03-10 13:22:13 +0100 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | <liskin> "Arshia Aghaei: HLS makes it hard..." <- So just not use a Haskell language server for xmonad.hs? |
| 2022-03-10 13:29:50 +0100 | <geekosaur> | sad |
| 2022-03-10 13:35:13 +0100 | evan | (~evan@219.136.52.90) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2022-03-10 13:37:18 +0100 | Solid | has had absolutely no problems with using HLS or ghcide for his xmonad.hs |
| 2022-03-10 13:38:08 +0100 | geekosaur | has never tried |
| 2022-03-10 13:38:21 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I kinda never developed the habit of using IDEs |
| 2022-03-10 13:38:58 +0100 | <geekosaur> | …and have memorized enough of xmonad and contrib (not to say Xlib) that I don't need to :) |
| 2022-03-10 13:39:58 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: possibly because it's part of a cabal project? |
| 2022-03-10 13:40:45 +0100 | <Solid> | liskin: it's a stack project, I've never really used cabal on its own |
| 2022-03-10 13:41:07 +0100 | <liskin> | geekosaur: it doesn't do much anyway, but it shows errors so one doesn't need the extra window for ghcid and can use the screen space for something else |
| 2022-03-10 13:41:18 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: it's something.cabal isn't it? |
| 2022-03-10 13:41:52 +0100 | <liskin> | But yeah mea culpa I meant package not project |
| 2022-03-10 13:42:02 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I'd expect a cabal file (which you'd need anyway unless you went the hpack route) would be enough |
| 2022-03-10 13:42:05 +0100 | <Solid> | ah, yeah it has a .cabal file |
| 2022-03-10 13:42:50 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but yes, the quick and dirty ways to build a config won;t give HLS enough information to figure itself out |
| 2022-03-10 14:07:47 +0100 | <liskin> | I suppose I could replace some of my make machinery with a .cabal file |
| 2022-03-10 14:09:56 +0100 | <geekosaur> | or not replace, just provide enough of a cabal file for HLS to work |
| 2022-03-10 14:19:02 +0100 | dschrempf | (~dominik@mobiledyn-62-240-134-171.mrsn.at) |
| 2022-03-10 14:20:23 +0100 | <Solid> | definitely replace all of the make machinery that you can :P |
| 2022-03-10 14:28:12 +0100 | <geekosaur> | enh. I mena, I'mnot a great fan of complex build systems, but there's also not breaking what already works |
| 2022-03-10 14:29:01 +0100 | <geekosaur> | especially when doing so means you can't log in afterward :) |
| 2022-03-10 14:31:08 +0100 | <Solid> | just don't log out until things work :D |
| 2022-03-10 14:31:36 +0100 | <geekosaur> | famous last words |
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| 2022-03-10 15:14:05 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: I love my make machinery |
| 2022-03-10 15:14:58 +0100 | <liskin> | but yeah, can't really argue it's simple any more, which was my only argument against having xmonadrc.cabal |
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| 2022-03-10 18:38:49 +0100 | benin | (~benin@183.82.26.94) |
| 2022-03-10 18:39:45 +0100 | <benin> | Any way to compile scripts/xmonadctl.hs from xmonad-contrib with the same stack.yaml used during install? |
| 2022-03-10 18:39:58 +0100 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) |
| 2022-03-10 18:42:15 +0100 | <benin> | This link (https://xmonad.org/INSTALL.html#build-using-stack) is how my stack.yaml looks now. Just added XMonad.Hooks.ServerMode to my config, would be nice if this stack.yaml itself could somehow compile xmonadctl in so that it would trigger with just `xmonad --recompile` instead of compiling it separately. |
| 2022-03-10 18:43:17 +0100 | <benin> | Learning haskell as I configure, but not familiar with how stack works, any help would be nice, thanks! |
| 2022-03-10 18:47:52 +0100 | <liskin> | stack ghc should do it |
| 2022-03-10 18:48:28 +0100 | <liskin> | (and we should probably make it an executable in the cabal package, this manual building is silly) |
| 2022-03-10 18:50:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I think the main reason it isn't is that ServerMode is a proof of concept with a number of shortcomings |
| 2022-03-10 18:50:33 +0100 | <Solid> | mh, would `stack install` install every executable in that case or would it prompt you to specify one? |
| 2022-03-10 18:51:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | all, I think. (cabal would ask you for a component, unless there's only one executable) |
| 2022-03-10 18:54:57 +0100 | <liskin> | hm, maybe that's why I didn't do it earlier, I vaguely remember considering it before |
| 2022-03-10 18:59:53 +0100 | <benin> | stack ghc -- --make xmonadctl.hs errors out with "could not find module Graphics.X11.Xlib and Graphics.X11.Xlib.Extras. |
| 2022-03-10 19:04:19 +0100 | <benin> | Will writing a stack.yaml in the scripts/ subdirectory and including it under packages: in the main stack.yaml work? |
| 2022-03-10 19:05:23 +0100 | <benin> | I see xmonad-contrib's stack.yaml having a extra-deps section with X11. Adding that section to scripts/stack.yaml should do no? |
| 2022-03-10 19:09:17 +0100 | <liskin> | you should run that command from the directory where you have your main stack.yaml |
| 2022-03-10 19:09:35 +0100 | <liskin> | so that's it's build using the same deps as xmonad |
| 2022-03-10 19:17:07 +0100 | <benin> | That worked, thanks. Sadly leaves the build artifacts and executable in the source dir. |
| 2022-03-10 19:30:57 +0100 | dschrempf | (~dominik@2a02:8389:100:e100:8314:75b7:5450:7049) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-03-10 19:35:11 +0100 | td_ | (~td@94.134.91.38) |
| 2022-03-10 19:45:06 +0100 | <benin> | Got it working with the following. Really not sure if all this is required just to add one executable to compile. |
| 2022-03-10 19:45:06 +0100 | <benin> | scripts/stack.yaml: https://pastebin.com/GsnavCtd |
| 2022-03-10 19:45:06 +0100 | <benin> | scripts/xmonadctl.cabal: https://pastebin.com/wtzwgR08 |
| 2022-03-10 19:45:06 +0100 | <benin> | Also added `- xmonad-contrib/scripts` to the base stack.yaml under packages:. |
| 2022-03-10 19:46:51 +0100 | <benin> | Well, at least now I know something about the convoluted build process in haskell /s. |
| 2022-03-10 19:46:51 +0100 | <benin> | Please check it out and lmk if I did something really stupid or if there's a better way, thanks! |
| 2022-03-10 19:47:24 +0100 | <geekosaur> | this is convoluted because you're trying to fit into a nonstandard build process |
| 2022-03-10 19:47:34 +0100 | <geekosaur> | a proper build script would be easier |
| 2022-03-10 19:50:52 +0100 | <benin> | Realized that. To be frank, this is still preferable over having .hi / .o files after running an arbitrary command (which I will most certainly forget). |
| 2022-03-10 19:51:18 +0100 | <benin> | At least this is a proper patch I can save for later. |
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| 2022-03-10 23:38:39 +0100 | <geekosaur> | reminds me that at some point we need to arrange for -odir and -hidir to be the cache dir, if we haven't yet |