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| 2022-03-08 04:32:31 +0100 | <iqubic> | Is there a guide anywhere for what widgets and things I can add to xmobar? |
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| 2022-03-08 08:33:28 +0100 | <Solid> | ?tell iqubic the xmoar docs should list all of the modules that you can add |
| 2022-03-08 08:33:29 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
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| 2022-03-08 12:08:35 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2022-03-08 12:09:48 +0100 | <mc47> | liskin, Solid, geekosaur: I was busy these days with life (thank you german bureaucracy :D), I'll catch up this weekend probably. Just a heads up ;) |
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| 2022-03-08 13:28:35 +0100 | <Solid> | mc47[m]: sounds good :) |
| 2022-03-08 13:28:56 +0100 | <Solid> | the Kafkaesque nightmare that it German bureaucracy is quite something to behold :> |
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| 2022-03-08 15:42:01 +0100 | <liskin> | hacktoberfest t-shirt arrived \o/ |
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| 2022-03-08 16:39:54 +0100 | <Solid> | nice! |
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| 2022-03-08 19:20:30 +0100 | iqubic | (~avi@c-67-171-37-233.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 2022-03-08 19:21:40 +0100 | <iqubic> | Well, I've just added a few things to my xmonad config, and rebooted my comupter. Now when I log in, all I see is a black screen with nothing at all running, not even xmobar. |
| 2022-03-08 19:22:02 +0100 | <iqubic> | My keyboard shortcuts aren't working, and in general, it seems like xmonad has frozen up. |
| 2022-03-08 19:22:19 +0100 | <iqubic> | All I have a mouse cursor on a black screen. |
| 2022-03-08 19:23:13 +0100 | <geekosaur> | by any chance does alt-shift-enter open a terminal? |
| 2022-03-08 19:23:36 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (which would mean xmonad is running but your config isn't being used for some reason) |
| 2022-03-08 19:23:40 +0100 | <iqubic> | my .xmonad config is here: https://termbin.com/ieuy |
| 2022-03-08 19:24:10 +0100 | <iqubic> | And no, alt-shift-enter doesn't open a terminal. Or maybe it does, but I don't have the default xterm installed. |
| 2022-03-08 19:24:42 +0100 | <iqubic> | Alright... Yeah. alt-shift-enter does open a terminal. |
| 2022-03-08 19:25:32 +0100 | <iqubic> | My config is at ~/.config/xmonad/xmonad.hs |
| 2022-03-08 19:25:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | wonder if it's started looking in the wrong place, then |
| 2022-03-08 19:26:32 +0100 | <geekosaur> | what version of xmonad are you using? (or "should" be using; maybe it got updated and you only found out at reboot) |
| 2022-03-08 19:27:44 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and, do you suddenly have a ~/.xmonad directory, probably with some dotfiles in it? |
| 2022-03-08 19:28:43 +0100 | <iqubic> | I'm using the latest version of xmonad. I pulled the sources from github and did a `stack install` with this stack.yaml: https://termbin.com/9txf |
| 2022-03-08 19:28:54 +0100 | <geekosaur> | xmonad 0.15 is a bitbuggy about determining which directory to use for its config, and contrib 0.16 has some bugs which can trigger the 0.15 bug by writing state files to the wrong directory |
| 2022-03-08 19:29:07 +0100 | <iqubic> | That installed a binary to ~/.local/bin/xmonad |
| 2022-03-08 19:29:29 +0100 | <iqubic> | I'm asking my login manager to run the xmonad binary from ~/.local/bin/xmonad |
| 2022-03-08 19:30:21 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that stack.yaml shows you as getting xmonad from an LTS release, so it will be xmonad 0.15 |
| 2022-03-08 19:30:21 +0100 | <iqubic> | I don't have a ~/.xmonad directory. All xmonad config stuff is in ~/.config/xmonad |
| 2022-03-08 19:30:31 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that';s where you intend it to be |
| 2022-03-08 19:30:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | the symptons you describe suggest it's looking in ~/.xmonad instead |
| 2022-03-08 19:30:51 +0100 | <iqubic> | I see. |
| 2022-03-08 19:31:11 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and as I described, 0.15 has some bugs with respect to this |
| 2022-03-08 19:31:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you might try it with the nightly resolver, which has 0.17.0 |
| 2022-03-08 19:32:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (stackage hasn't yet released an LTS with xmonad 0.17) |
| 2022-03-08 19:32:21 +0100 | <iqubic> | No, I'm certainly using 0.17.0.9. |
| 2022-03-08 19:32:34 +0100 | <iqubic> | which xmonad gives ~/.local/bin/xmonad |
| 2022-03-08 19:32:43 +0100 | <iqubic> | and xmonad --version gives 0.17.0.9 |
| 2022-03-08 19:33:07 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that's not what your stack.yaml says. is it actually being used? |
| 2022-03-08 19:33:17 +0100 | <iqubic> | I'm not sure. |
| 2022-03-08 19:33:31 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you are using resolver 18.27 and do not have extra-packages pointing to git releases |
| 2022-03-08 19:33:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | erm, extra-deps |
| 2022-03-08 19:34:15 +0100 | <iqubic> | Yes, but I have the full sources for xmonad on my system. |
| 2022-03-08 19:34:45 +0100 | <geekosaur> | stack won't be using them without an extra-deps stamnza pointing to them |
| 2022-03-08 19:34:55 +0100 | <iqubic> | I cloned xmonad and xmonad-contrib in to my ~/.config/xmonad directory and then ran "stack init" |
| 2022-03-08 19:34:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | unless you are installing by some means other than stack |
| 2022-03-08 19:35:36 +0100 | <geekosaur> | mm, maybe. I admit I don't know stack that well, but my understanding is you need extra-deps for stack to actually use those checkouts |
| 2022-03-08 19:35:40 +0100 | <iqubic> | No. After cloning the sources, then running stack init, I then ran stack install. |
| 2022-03-08 19:36:02 +0100 | <geekosaur> | on the other hand, you apparently have the right version running. so the question is why isn;t it seeing your config |
| 2022-03-08 19:36:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | can you doublecheck you really don't have ~/.xmonad ? |
| 2022-03-08 19:36:44 +0100 | <geekosaur> | also see if `echo $XMONAD_CONFIG_DIR` says something |
| 2022-03-08 19:36:49 +0100 | <iqubic> | I really don't have a ~/.xmonad directory. |
| 2022-03-08 19:37:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (also I need someone who understands stack better than I do…) |
| 2022-03-08 19:38:32 +0100 | <iqubic> | Should I try reinstalling xmonad, using a method you understand better? |
| 2022-03-08 19:39:01 +0100 | <geekosaur> | probably not since cmonad --version is returning the right thing; it's far more likely that I'm confused than that something is wrong |
| 2022-03-08 19:39:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | does `xmonad --recompile` do anything useful? |
| 2022-03-08 19:39:35 +0100 | <iqubic> | It succeeds with no errors |
| 2022-03-08 19:40:03 +0100 | <iqubic> | I don't seem to have any $XMONAD_CONFIG value set. |
| 2022-03-08 19:40:26 +0100 | <iqubic> | echo $XMONAD_CONFIG is returning a blank line. |
| 2022-03-08 19:40:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's XMONAD_CONFIG_DIR |
| 2022-03-08 19:41:04 +0100 | <iqubic> | Also not set for me. |
| 2022-03-08 19:41:28 +0100 | <geekosaur> | odd |
| 2022-03-08 19:41:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | just for grins and giggles, try `xmonad --restart` |
| 2022-03-08 19:42:43 +0100 | <iqubic> | That's still not using my config |
| 2022-03-08 19:42:50 +0100 | <geekosaur> | :( |
| 2022-03-08 19:44:52 +0100 | <iqubic> | I had this working the other day. The only thing that changed was that I deleted my binaries and swtiched from a version installed with cabal, to one installed with stack |
| 2022-03-08 19:45:32 +0100 | <iqubic> | Shall I delete the stack binary and switch back to cabal? |
| 2022-03-08 19:45:45 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I don;t see how that would help |
| 2022-03-08 19:46:06 +0100 | steve__ | (~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 2022-03-08 19:46:11 +0100 | <geekosaur> | the stack binary is working well enough to find and recompile your config, it should be working well enough to find and use your config |
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| 2022-03-08 19:51:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hm. can you check that something didn't reconfigure your display manager to run a different xmonad? |
| 2022-03-08 19:51:55 +0100 | <iqubic> | I'll try checking that, yeah. |
| 2022-03-08 19:54:56 +0100 | <iqubic> | I just deleted the stack binaries, and reinstalled using cabal. Now it works properly. |
| 2022-03-08 19:56:34 +0100 | <iqubic> | With that issue solved, I bid you farewell. |
| 2022-03-08 19:56:39 +0100 | <iqubic> | exit |
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| 2022-03-08 19:58:31 +0100 | iqubic | (~iqubic@c-67-171-37-233.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 2022-03-08 19:58:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | odd |
| 2022-03-08 19:59:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I can't see why stack would have done that, unless your config waspointing at a cabal-installed one instead and it's looking in the wrong place |
| 2022-03-08 19:59:23 +0100 | iqubic | (~iqubic@c-67-171-37-233.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) (Client Quit) |
| 2022-03-08 19:59:30 +0100 | <geekosaur> | cabalwould be ~/.cabal/bin/xmonad |
| 2022-03-08 19:59:33 +0100 | <geekosaur> | oh |
| 2022-03-08 19:59:36 +0100 | <geekosaur> | sigh |
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| 2022-03-08 20:18:02 +0100 | desantra | (~skykanin@user/skykanin) |
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| 2022-03-08 22:10:33 +0100 | iqubic | (~iqubic@c-67-171-37-233.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 2022-03-08 22:11:03 +0100 | <iqubic> | What's the difference between the doSink and doLower manage hooks? |
| 2022-03-08 22:18:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | "sink"means moving form the floating layer to the tiled layer. "lower" is what it says on the tin |
| 2022-03-08 22:19:01 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (sink as the opposite of float) |
| 2022-03-08 22:22:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | thta is,lower puts a window below all other windows |
| 2022-03-08 22:23:47 +0100 | <iqubic> | Ah. I see. |
| 2022-03-08 22:24:09 +0100 | <iqubic> | Do floating windows that have focus automatically become raised? |
| 2022-03-08 22:24:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-03-08 22:26:07 +0100 | <iqubic> | Is there a way to automatically lower all tiling windows? |
| 2022-03-08 22:28:50 +0100 | <geekosaur> | tiled windows are always below floating windows. otherwise their z-order is determined by the layout and there's no way to override it exscept to use a different layout |
| 2022-03-08 22:57:30 +0100 | <iqubic> | How I get the className and titleName properties for a given window? |
| 2022-03-08 22:58:06 +0100 | <geekosaur> | they are the first and second strings reported for WM_CLASS |
| 2022-03-08 22:58:28 +0100 | <geekosaur> | or there'sa script in contrib iirc which outputs it in manageHook form |
| 2022-03-08 22:58:49 +0100 | <iqubic> | And how do I get that value? Is there a command line tool I can use? |
| 2022-03-08 22:58:52 +0100 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/scripts/window-properties.sh |
| 2022-03-08 22:59:17 +0100 | <geekosaur> | or just: xprop WM_CLASS, then click on the window |
| 2022-03-08 22:59:29 +0100 | <iqubic> | Thanks. |
| 2022-03-08 23:00:57 +0100 | <iqubic> | Now, is there a guide to xmobar configuration? I have my XMobarPP set up properly in xmonad.hs. I want to configure font choice, font size, and which other widgets I use. |
| 2022-03-08 23:01:28 +0100 | <iqubic> | I'm just gonna do the default xmobarrc plain text configuration style |