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2022-01-11 06:35:12 +0100 <AIM[m]> Xmobar doesn't have bluetooth yet?
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2022-01-11 13:07:14 +0100lyiriyah[m](~lyiriyahm@2001:470:69fc:105::cc0)
2022-01-11 13:15:15 +0100 <lyiriyah[m]> <AIM[m]> "Xmobar doesn't have bluetooth..." <- You could use trayer in conjunction with `blueman-applet`
2022-01-11 13:16:13 +0100dschrempf(~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net)
2022-01-11 13:16:35 +0100 <geekosaur> yeh, xmobar doesn't do well with things you want to interact with, only with things you want to see the status of
2022-01-11 13:19:06 +0100 <lyiriyah[m]> IIRC there was some way to add clickable buttons but trayer is much easier
2022-01-11 13:20:03 +0100 <geekosaur> and "clickable buttons" is kinda limited. you could turn bluetooth on/off but not, say, pair wth a new device. or connect to one
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2022-01-11 13:28:35 +0100 <AIM[m]> <lyiriyah[m]> "You could use trayer in conjunct..." <- Ah
2022-01-11 13:29:13 +0100 <AIM[m]> <geekosaur> "yeh, xmobar doesn't do well with..." <- Like I'll be just happy to see the name of the bluetooth device connected to my PC
2022-01-11 13:29:22 +0100 <AIM[m]> I don't wanna like interact with it or anything through xmobar
2022-01-11 13:30:48 +0100 <geekosaur> we have specific support for trayer+xmobar, and some better support coming up
2022-01-11 13:31:14 +0100ishimi[m](~kasaneins@2001:470:69fc:105::1:66db)
2022-01-11 13:32:48 +0100 <AIM[m]> I'd love to see bluetooth in xmobar config... Like I don't want like any clickable functionality or any fancy feature, just the name of device I'm connected to
2022-01-11 13:32:58 +0100 <AIM[m]> That's all
2022-01-11 13:33:12 +0100 <AIM[m]> Idk how complex it is to implement it tho
2022-01-11 13:33:44 +0100 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/643 has a nice auto-resizing thing for trayer+xmobar
2022-01-11 13:34:23 +0100 <geekosaur> not sure about its current state but development seems to have been idle for the past few months, possibly because it's pretty much ready to go as I read the PR comments
2022-01-11 13:34:47 +0100 <thonoht[m]> AIM[m]: If you have a script that prints this name, you can have xmobar call this script periodically and show the name.
2022-01-11 13:34:52 +0100 <geekosaur> "name of device" has some complexities, like you can be connected to more than one device
2022-01-11 13:36:45 +0100 <geekosaur> but I think liskin's the only one here who is also an xmobar dev (it's not ours) and he's sidelined by wrist problems
2022-01-11 13:50:53 +0100 <AIM[m]> <thonoht[m]> "If you have a script that prints..." <- Ohhh
2022-01-11 13:54:34 +0100 <thonoht[m]> E.g. I have a script that prints the cpu temperature, I add to .xmobarrc:
2022-01-11 13:54:34 +0100 <thonoht[m]> `, Run Com "/home/thonoht/.scripts/xmobar/ctemp.sh" [] "ctemp" 10`
2022-01-11 13:54:34 +0100 <thonoht[m]> and include it in the template like `%ctemp%`
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2022-01-11 14:35:42 +0100 <lyiriyah[m]> Could probably do it with `bluetoothctl` and a few filters
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2022-01-11 15:08:25 +0100 <liskin> geekosaur: I'm not actually an xmobar dev, I just watch PRs and help review stuff whenever I feel like I can contribute something or when it's somehow relevant to xmonad
2022-01-11 15:08:52 +0100 <liskin> #643 is something I'd like to deal with in the near future
2022-01-11 15:09:41 +0100 <liskin> Seems like I can work with a wrist brace on, and staying away from the computer doesn't really make things any better so there's little point in continuing that practice :-/
2022-01-11 15:10:36 +0100 <liskin> Later this week I should have another call from the physiotherapist at my GP and hopefully they'll give me a referral for some x-ray/ct/specialist or whatever
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2022-01-11 15:56:41 +0100 <henninb> greetings, I have a question about xmonad functionality. if I spawnOnce slack(flatpak) in workspace 8 and spawnOnce allacrity in workspace 1, why does my starting workspace start at 8?
2022-01-11 15:57:53 +0100 <henninb> i don't think order matters because I have switched them and it doesn't make a difference. is there a way to "force" xmonad to start always "land on" workspace 1?
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2022-01-11 16:37:21 +0100 <lyiriyah[m]> <henninb> "greetings, I have a question..." <- I assume this is in your startupHook?
2022-01-11 16:40:12 +0100 <lyiriyah[m]> henninb
2022-01-11 17:05:24 +0100 <henninb> lyiriyah[m] - i confirmed that it is in my startup hook.
2022-01-11 17:11:28 +0100 <Solid> spawnOnce shouldn't change your workspace at all; I'm having trouble seeing how you would start on ws 8 in the first place
2022-01-11 17:12:08 +0100 <Solid> but either way you could try something stupid like putting `windows $ W.view ws1` at the end of your startup hook (where ws1 is the name of the workspace you want to go to)
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2022-01-11 17:15:52 +0100 <henninb> Solid, i agree with you and I don't know why either. thanks for the idea.
2022-01-11 17:16:42 +0100 <henninb> maybe because slack is an electron app and is holding the foreground somehow?
2022-01-11 17:17:27 +0100 <henninb> here is my code: https://github.com/henninb/dotfiles/blob/main/.xmonad/xmonad-default.hs
2022-01-11 17:21:14 +0100 <Solid> it's conceivable that slack immediately requests attention yeah (and with the current ewmh code I think we still jump on that asap)
2022-01-11 17:23:10 +0100 <henninb> that makes sense Solid, thanks for the workaround code snip. I think that will solve my problem.
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2022-01-11 17:30:40 +0100 <liskin> yeah the default is to switch but the configurability is already in place so there's no real reason to switch the default
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2022-01-11 17:39:48 +0100 <Solid> oh I thought the config part of it was part of the still-not-merged pr
2022-01-11 17:39:55 +0100 <Solid> good to know that it's already in
2022-01-11 17:46:30 +0100 <liskin> nope, the only point of that still-not-merged PR is to clean up the user interface and make all the EWMH stuff more modular/extensible
2022-01-11 17:46:44 +0100 <liskin> although it's somewhat questionable whether that's still worth it
2022-01-11 17:46:56 +0100 <liskin> for most people it'll just be a breaking change with little benefit
2022-01-11 17:47:54 +0100 <liskin> (breaking as in deprecation followed by maybe a removal a couple years down the road)
2022-01-11 17:49:30 +0100 <liskin> there is one thing which should be done: addition of (un)fullscreen hooks, similar to the activation hook
2022-01-11 17:49:57 +0100 <liskin> that would enable better/cleaner integration of X.L.Fullscreen and also possibly remembering tile/float state
2022-01-11 17:50:07 +0100 <liskin> but this can all be done within the existing codebase
2022-01-11 17:51:11 +0100 <liskin> is there btw any conference/hackathon earlier than ZuriHac in June?
2022-01-11 17:51:27 +0100 <Solid> not that I know of, at least
2022-01-11 17:53:11 +0100 <liskin> I also vaguely remember that in the still-not-merged PR I eventually intended to clean up Urgency stuff a bit so that some things don't need to go through xmonad sending a ClientMessage to itself, but it's very well possible there aren't any user-visible benefits of that either :-/
2022-01-11 17:55:09 +0100 <liskin> anyway, I really have no idea when I'll be able to actually work on all this, so… this is just a braindump really
2022-01-11 17:55:58 +0100 <AIM[m]> > <@thonoht:matrix.org> E.g. I have a script that prints the cpu temperature, I add to .xmobarrc:
2022-01-11 17:55:58 +0100 <AIM[m]> > `, Run Com "/home/thonoht/.scripts/xmobar/ctemp.sh" [] "ctemp" 10`
2022-01-11 17:55:58 +0100 <AIM[m]> > and include it in the template like `%ctemp%`
2022-01-11 17:55:58 +0100 <AIM[m]> Isn't that already there? I use Run CoreTemp, which is already present in Xmobar. Most stuff I have as status are the ones inbuilt.
2022-01-11 17:56:00 +0100 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’
2022-01-11 17:56:00 +0100 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘`’
2022-01-11 17:56:00 +0100 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:16: error: parse error on input ‘in’
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2022-01-11 20:23:58 +0100 <geekosaur> Solid, henninb, I see browsers force workspace changes on startup, wouldn't surprise me if slack did too since it's a mini-browser
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2022-01-11 20:49:02 +0100 <Solid> liskin: you ought to write some of these ideas down somewhere, then perhaps peope who have the energy/time can take stabs at them as well :P
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2022-01-11 23:12:44 +0100 <liskin> Solid: its somewhere in the comments office some open issues
2022-01-11 23:13:27 +0100 <liskin> But perhaps it'd be useful to have another project board to prioritize stuff for the next release or two
2022-01-11 23:13:47 +0100 <liskin> s/office/off/
2022-01-11 23:13:56 +0100 <liskin> *of
2022-01-11 23:14:03 +0100 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/projects?type=beta ?
2022-01-11 23:14:07 +0100liskinhas been drinking
2022-01-11 23:14:19 +0100 <geekosaur> and yes, it took some attempts at parsing to realize you'd done that :)
2022-01-11 23:15:08 +0100 <liskin> geekosaur: something like that. The board we used for 0.17 was an or-level board not just repo-level
2022-01-11 23:15:14 +0100 <liskin> *org
2022-01-11 23:15:27 +0100 <liskin> Crap, I should just go to bed :-D
2022-01-11 23:16:57 +0100 <geekosaur> mm, yes, now I see it has those too
2022-01-11 23:17:15 +0100geekosauralso took the chance to pin xmonad and contrib repos on the org page
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