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2022-01-04 10:09:37 +0100 <dirtcastle> https://pastecode.io/s/6g5fy1fm
2022-01-04 10:10:35 +0100 <dirtcastle> trying to run xmobar. xmobar was installed through pacman. xmonad was built from source.(stack)
2022-01-04 10:11:16 +0100 <dirtcastle> i made a .xmobarrc with example config from arch wiki. it's at ~/.xmobarrc.
2022-01-04 10:11:39 +0100 <dirtcastle> google, reddit, yt, xmobar doc - nothing was helpful.
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2022-01-04 10:18:44 +0100 <AIM[m]> Have ya seen DT's video on it?
2022-01-04 10:25:47 +0100 <dirtcastle> yes. exactly his. but he configured it inside xmonad.1 i think. I'm doing it .hs. should I try it on .1 itself once?
2022-01-04 10:27:24 +0100 <dirtcastle> i think the problem is in syntax in the main function. can u take a look at that for a sec.
2022-01-04 10:30:54 +0100 <AIM[m]> I also did the rc file without the entire hs code
2022-01-04 10:31:14 +0100 <AIM[m]> The file with only Config
2022-01-04 10:32:03 +0100 <dirtcastle> ok. I'll try do xmobar config alone in that file once
2022-01-04 10:32:15 +0100 <AIM[m]> Ya
2022-01-04 10:32:41 +0100 <AIM[m]> I haven't got the hs file working
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2022-01-04 12:19:09 +0100 <dirtcastle> i tried it. didn't work. he uses ubuntu. i use arch. i could be missing a step related to X11.
2022-01-04 12:21:23 +0100 <AIM[m]> I use Arch only
2022-01-04 12:21:38 +0100 <AIM[m]> You can try to get an example config first
2022-01-04 12:21:47 +0100 <AIM[m]> Instead of writing from scratch
2022-01-04 12:22:10 +0100 <AIM[m]> What error does it show?
2022-01-04 12:22:29 +0100 <AIM[m]> Try running from terminal instead of automatically launching it from xmonad
2022-01-04 12:22:49 +0100 <AIM[m]> That way the errors get thrown into the terminal output
2022-01-04 12:24:41 +0100 <geekosaur> @where paste
2022-01-04 12:24:41 +0100 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2022-01-04 12:26:33 +0100 <geekosaur> although if you're on arch using a pacman-installed xmobar, I'm betting you need to build the xmobar config with -dynamic
2022-01-04 12:28:10 +0100 <AIM[m]> It's better to get he Aur version of xmonad and xmobar
2022-01-04 12:28:54 +0100 <geekosaur> probably still need it. arch haskell packaging is kinda broken
2022-01-04 12:29:01 +0100 <AIM[m]> The pacman version is kinda back on updates (which is surprising coz Arch is supposed to be a rolling release). I guess the maintainers are too busy.
2022-01-04 13:09:41 +0100 <dirtcastle> i didn't know they were outdated . I'll do it from official git repo.
2022-01-04 13:34:10 +0100 <dirtcastle> Could not load module `Distribution.Simple'
2022-01-04 13:34:10 +0100 <dirtcastle> It is a member of the hidden package `Cabal-3.4.0.0'.
2022-01-04 13:34:10 +0100 <dirtcastle> You can run `:set -package Cabal' to expose it.
2022-01-04 13:34:10 +0100 <dirtcastle> (Note: this unloads all the modules in the current scope.)
2022-01-04 13:34:10 +0100 <dirtcastle> Use -v (or `:set -v` in ghci) to see a list of the files searched for.
2022-01-04 13:34:10 +0100 <dirtcastle> |
2022-01-04 13:34:10 +0100 <dirtcastle> 3 | > import Distribution.Simple
2022-01-04 13:34:11 +0100 <dirtcastle> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
2022-01-04 13:34:11 +0100 <dirtcastle> ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build().
2022-01-04 13:34:12 +0100 <dirtcastle> Aborting...
2022-01-04 13:34:34 +0100 <dirtcastle> when downloading from aur
2022-01-04 14:29:33 +0100 <dirtcastle> never mind
2022-01-04 14:30:09 +0100 <dirtcastle> i installed through pacman . xmobarrc example config in archwiki is bugged
2022-01-04 14:33:12 +0100 <dirtcastle> thanks your time guys. really appreciate it!
2022-01-04 14:36:07 +0100 <Solid> dirtcastle: perhaps change that wiki article/alert someone who can?
2022-01-04 14:42:47 +0100 <dirtcastle> Solid, I've never done that b4. I've pulled issues in git only. does that have a git page?
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2022-01-04 15:24:30 +0100 <Solid> dirtcastle: I don't know, I don't use Arch
2022-01-04 15:24:42 +0100 <Solid> but surely a wiki is editable by everyone (modulo a review process)
2022-01-04 15:26:44 +0100 <dirtcastle> oh npnp. I'll search the internet. or else will ask in #archlinux irc
2022-01-04 15:27:01 +0100 <geekosaur> iirc it's a mediawiki, it should have pretty good help
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2022-01-04 18:00:51 +0100 <dirtcastle> can I use emacs as a scratchpad?
2022-01-04 18:01:05 +0100 <dirtcastle> is it possible
2022-01-04 18:02:28 +0100 <geekosaur> don't see why not. probably have to use NamedScratchpads rather than the simple scratchpad which is limited to windows you can name "scratchpad", then className =? "Emacs". main problem there is then using any emacs window for anything else
2022-01-04 18:02:49 +0100 <geekosaur> would need some elisp hacking to get a specific emacs frame with a role you could match on
2022-01-04 18:05:46 +0100 <dirtcastle> gotcha. I'll search a little more.
2022-01-04 18:17:15 +0100 <geekosaur> might be easier to use an emacsclient running in a terminal, then just arrange for the terminal to not be a factory and use --name scratchpad (appName =? "scratchpad")
2022-01-04 18:29:33 +0100 <Solid> dirtcastle: emacsclient supports the -F flag with which you can set the parameters of the spawned frame
2022-01-04 18:31:04 +0100 <Solid> e.g. for an instance name you'd do something like -F "(quote (name . \"my-scratchpad\"))"
2022-01-04 18:31:50 +0100 <fizzie> I've done an Emacs stratchpady thing.
2022-01-04 18:31:55 +0100 <fizzie> I just keep forgetting to use it.
2022-01-04 18:32:04 +0100 <Solid> (the instance name is the first string in WM_CLASS)
2022-01-04 18:32:17 +0100 <Solid> I have like 4 Emacs scratchpads for different purposes
2022-01-04 18:32:20 +0100 <Solid> very worth it :)
2022-01-04 18:37:06 +0100 <fizzie> I do "emacsclient -a '' -e '(scratch-frame)'" to start one, (resource =? "scratch-emacs") to match one, and https://0x0.st/ozcF.txt on the Emacs side, and have completely forgotten most of what that's for -- it's probably much overcomplicated.
2022-01-04 18:37:33 +0100 <fizzie> I think the idea was I could also toggle the scratchpad visibility over from Elisp for whatever reason, that's what sending the XMONAD_NSP_SHOW client event is doing.
2022-01-04 18:37:52 +0100 <fizzie> It probably still works, but I still don't remember to use it.
2022-01-04 18:45:18 +0100 <dirtcastle> Solid: Share config and save me from going through so much pain. I'll understand the emacsclient options from manual.
2022-01-04 18:46:05 +0100 <dirtcastle> I literally took a screenshot of everything u guys said for reference.
2022-01-04 18:49:03 +0100 <dirtcastle> thank you very much!
2022-01-04 18:54:09 +0100 <dirtcastle> fizzie, i didn't understand that lisp code but I copied and make sense of it later. Thank you!
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2022-01-04 19:02:24 +0100 <Solid> dirtcastle: the config itself is a little bit complicated because I have a little EDSL for spawning things and setting these names, but the basic command for emacsclient is `emacsclient -c -F "(quote (name . \"scratch-name\"))"` and you would then match on it in your scratchpad config with `appName =? "scratch-name"`
2022-01-04 19:03:10 +0100 <Solid> in case you're wondering, -F sets the `default-frame-alist` variable (`C-h v default-frame-alist` for more information)
2022-01-04 19:06:38 +0100 <Solid> fizzie: yeah the snippet seems to duplicate some scratchpad functionality in elisp
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2022-01-04 19:07:24 +0100 <Solid> and most of this is actually dead code since I would imagine `scratch-frame` is only called for spawning the scratchpad (with managing being done by NamedScratchpads)
2022-01-04 19:07:31 +0100 <Solid> but if it works it works so... :)
2022-01-04 19:11:58 +0100 <dirtcastle> I'll remember to contact you for debugging :D
2022-01-04 19:11:58 +0100 <dirtcastle> one of the reasons I asked was to see if I there are new features I am not aware of.
2022-01-04 19:14:04 +0100 <fizzie> Solid: Oh, I remember what it's for -- the motivation was to allow opening a file in the scratch frame from the command line. So it's accompanied with a es() { e="${1/\\/\\\\}"; emacsclient -a '' -q -e '(scratch-frame "'"${e/\"/\\\"}"'")'; } bash function that does that. I don't remember to use it either.
2022-01-04 19:15:38 +0100 <Solid> fizzie: ah, that makes sense
2022-01-04 19:15:50 +0100 <fizzie> I don't remember why that was really any better than using the keybinding to bring up the scratchpad and open the file from there. Well, I guess it does respect the working directory of whatever terminal you run it in.
2022-01-04 19:16:12 +0100 <Solid> maybe you would use it more often if it wasn't a general Emacs scratchpad but something more specific
2022-01-04 19:19:10 +0100 <fizzie> I think pretty much what ended up happening is, I've got a screen session automatically opening in the terminal scratchpad, and the different screen windows of that session play the role of sort of more specific (but still slightly ephemeral) scratchpads, so I end up just using that one.
2022-01-04 19:20:50 +0100 <geekosaur> yeh, I open "scratchpads" in my one big emacs frame and probably would forget to use another one
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