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2021-12-23 00:03:10 +0100 <Guest13> Has the logo contest finished?
2021-12-23 00:03:38 +0100 <geekosaur> end of the year is when we rescheduled the end of the first phase. voting in January
2021-12-23 00:04:51 +0100 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/discussions/343
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2021-12-23 00:45:18 +0100 <geekosaur> hm. apparently either I already upstreamed the def key hack, or I at least made local changes
2021-12-23 00:49:38 +0100 <liskin> Solid: I thought the meaning of life was still an open question :-)
2021-12-23 00:49:55 +0100 <liskin> (even the meaning of _my_ life is an open question)
2021-12-23 00:51:45 +0100 <geekosaur> well, that's embarrassing; apparently I did this in May and completely forgot :)
2021-12-23 00:54:15 +0100 <geekosaur> guess that means I'm done for the night…
2021-12-23 00:56:46 +0100 <geekosaur> also I kinda wish testing doc changes didn't mean merging the PR and waiting for the doc site to update
2021-12-23 00:57:03 +0100 <geekosaur> or installing haddock and trying to build the docs locally
2021-12-23 00:57:31 +0100 <geekosaur> not that the changes are that major, but…
2021-12-23 00:59:33 +0100 <geekosaur> someone who knows haddock better than I do might want to glance over the most recent two PRs
2021-12-23 01:00:47 +0100 <geekosaur> (sadly, I think that might mean byorgey)
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2021-12-23 01:16:03 +0100 <liskin> you can download the generated docs from the CI
2021-12-23 01:16:30 +0100 <liskin> that is, you could if the build didn't fail due to that hlint issue :-/
2021-12-23 01:17:02 +0100 <liskin> but just for future reference, see e.g. here https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/actions/runs/1485976044
2021-12-23 01:17:10 +0100 <liskin> there's an artifact to download at the bottom
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2021-12-23 01:18:09 +0100 <liskin> (it includes the sdist tarball and the docs tarball, as a preview of what would be uploaded to hackage if the (pre-)release workflow was triggered)
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2021-12-23 01:19:51 +0100 <liskin> we could hardcore hlint to 3.3.4 in cabal.haskell-ci temporarily to work around this
2021-12-23 01:21:10 +0100 <liskin> (I'm about to afk, but I can look into that today and maybe try to look at some PR tomorrow, although no promises, my hand is still a bit shit)
2021-12-23 01:21:17 +0100 <liskin> s/today/tomorrow/
2021-12-23 01:21:25 +0100dirtcastle(~dirtcastl@103.43.203.229) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2021-12-23 01:21:34 +0100 <geekosaur> I'm looking at the output of the haddock phase. wonder if we should try to clean that up at some point
2021-12-23 01:21:41 +0100 <geekosaur> lots of haddock warnings
2021-12-23 01:22:21 +0100 <liskin> it'd be nice but it's probably not the highest priority :-/
2021-12-23 01:25:40 +0100 <geekosaur> wonder how much work it'd be to get .haddock files for X11 and xmonad into xmonad-contrib, lots of warnings about that
2021-12-23 01:25:50 +0100dirtcastle(~dirtcastl@103.43.203.225)
2021-12-23 01:26:08 +0100 <geekosaur> at least it doesn't look like I pissed off haddock much more than it already was :)
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2021-12-23 01:55:13 +0100 <liskin> Hm, I'd hope that cabal/stack handles (or can be told to) that
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2021-12-23 09:26:48 +0100 <Drishal[m]> hmm weird issue with xmonad
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2021-12-23 09:27:01 +0100 <Drishal[m]> gap spacing different here:
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2021-12-23 09:28:56 +0100 <Drishal[m]> Drishal[m]: however this gets fixed if I use `setLayout $ Layout myLayout` corresponding keybind
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2021-12-23 09:30:16 +0100 <Drishal[m]> any ideas how to fix this extra gaps
2021-12-23 09:31:18 +0100 <Drishal[m]> ooh and for the spacing stuff... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9128b7287f81a9f9d91396f31842e9812a24…)
2021-12-23 09:31:43 +0100 <Drishal[m]> ~
2021-12-23 09:31:43 +0100 <Drishal[m]> ❯ xmonad --version
2021-12-23 09:31:43 +0100 <Drishal[m]> xmonad 0.17.0.9
2021-12-23 09:33:32 +0100 <Drishal[m]> basically the spacing and gaps seemed to be messed up
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2021-12-23 10:32:19 +0100 <Drishal[m]> any hints to correct the way gaps are done on xmonad/xmobar?
2021-12-23 10:36:40 +0100 <Solid> didn't you say you fixed it?
2021-12-23 10:50:58 +0100 <Drishal[m]> <Solid> "didn't you say you fixed it?" <- when? 🤔
2021-12-23 10:51:16 +0100 <Drishal[m]> seems after the latest git update things got kinda messed up
2021-12-23 10:51:29 +0100Guest64(~Guest64@2409:4064:212:6687:989d:250b:25ac:3e4d)
2021-12-23 10:51:47 +0100 <Solid> > Drishal[m]: however this gets fixed if I use `setLayout $ Layout myLayout` corresponding keybind
2021-12-23 10:51:48 +0100 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:57: error:
2021-12-23 10:51:48 +0100 <lambdabot> parse error on input ‘$’
2021-12-23 10:51:48 +0100 <lambdabot> Perhaps you intended to use TemplateHaskell
2021-12-23 10:51:50 +0100 <Solid> there
2021-12-23 10:52:28 +0100 <Drishal[m]> Solid: nah what I mean to say is I have to press a keybind
2021-12-23 10:52:35 +0100 <Guest64> hey i need some help
2021-12-23 10:52:39 +0100 <Drishal[m]> so that the layout is set correctly
2021-12-23 10:52:48 +0100 <Drishal[m]> else there is a bit too much help
2021-12-23 10:52:53 +0100 <Drishal[m]> s/help/gaps/
2021-12-23 10:52:54 +0100 <Guest64> can anyone tell me how to use xmonad prompt like dmenu
2021-12-23 10:53:23 +0100 <Drishal[m]> I wonder if something messy is going on with the latest xmonad config
2021-12-23 10:54:24 +0100 <Guest64> seen the source code
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2021-12-23 11:04:17 +0100 <Solid> I'm not sure I follow; do you need to do this _every time_?
2021-12-23 11:04:26 +0100 <Solid> Or did you simply hit M-q and you need to refresh the layouts?
2021-12-23 11:11:57 +0100 <Drishal[m]> yes
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2021-12-23 11:12:06 +0100 <Drishal[m]> M-S-m to be exact
2021-12-23 11:30:27 +0100 <Solid> I asked two questions, please don't answer "yes" ;)
2021-12-23 11:31:20 +0100 <Drishal[m]> <Solid> "I'm not sure I follow; do you..." <- yes I need to do this everytime
2021-12-23 11:37:18 +0100 <Drishal[m]> is this the correct way to reset the layouts?
2021-12-23 11:37:18 +0100 <Drishal[m]> ```haskell
2021-12-23 11:37:18 +0100 <Drishal[m]> , ("M-S-m", setLayout $ Layout myLayout)
2021-12-23 11:37:18 +0100 <Drishal[m]> ```
2021-12-23 11:40:50 +0100 <Solid> should be fine (if you have your whole config handy you can also just do `setLayout $ layoutHook myConf`)
2021-12-23 11:41:11 +0100 <Solid> but this should just reset some state stored in the layouts; after restarting you should not have to do this again
2021-12-23 12:03:45 +0100 <Drishal[m]> > <@drishal:matrix.org> ```haskell... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/e512c5c78f1a89ff32b51f63301d8192d726…)
2021-12-23 12:03:46 +0100 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’
2021-12-23 12:04:19 +0100 <Drishal[m]> now theere are no random changing of window spacing when pressng M-S-m
2021-12-23 12:05:44 +0100 <Drishal[m]> also is there any way to restart xmobar along with xmonad 0.17?
2021-12-23 12:06:16 +0100 <Drishal[m]> currently xmobar is done this way... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/549975c175df27bbe3684d8412cb9f5332ba…)
2021-12-23 12:06:42 +0100 <Drishal[m]> trying to restart xmonad does not seem to restart xmobar
2021-12-23 12:07:03 +0100 <Solid> `withEasySB` takes care of al of the restarting
2021-12-23 12:08:03 +0100 <Drishal[m]> Solid: nope does not for me
2021-12-23 12:08:46 +0100 <Solid> geekosaur: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/e512c5c78f1a89ff32b51f63301d8192d726… seems to suggest that applying avoidStruts _after_ spacing is sometimes desirable (which is the opposite of what #666 says); what am I missing here?
2021-12-23 12:11:41 +0100 <Drishal[m]> Solid: Variable not in scope:
2021-12-23 12:11:53 +0100 <Drishal[m]> myLayout = renamed [CutWordsLeft 1] ( avoidStruts_after_spacing ( smartBorders ( spacingWithEdge 8 ( tiled ||| simplestFloat )))) ||| smartBorders Ful
2021-12-23 12:12:16 +0100 <Solid> that message was not meant for you ;)
2021-12-23 12:12:29 +0100 <Drishal[m]> aah ok
2021-12-23 12:12:46 +0100 <Drishal[m]> xD
2021-12-23 12:13:47 +0100 <Solid> Drishal[m]: afaik when you provide a haskell config as an input to xmobar, it compiles itself with that and then execv's a new instance
2021-12-23 12:14:03 +0100 <Solid> since restarting works by keeping track of xmobar's PID we won't be able to find that
2021-12-23 12:14:31 +0100 <Drishal[m]> so basically the way xmobar is handled is changed in 0.17 to some extent?
2021-12-23 12:14:51 +0100 <Solid> well, property-based logging didn't restart xmobar at all in 0.16
2021-12-23 12:15:06 +0100 <Solid> it's just that we're now pushing this more over pipes (which are error-prone)
2021-12-23 12:15:22 +0100 <Solid> if you want to use a Haskell-based config for xmobar I suggest you directly compile xmobar with that config
2021-12-23 12:15:26 +0100lambdabot(~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot) (Quit: let me try something)
2021-12-23 12:15:33 +0100 <Solid> that way there's no extra execv
2021-12-23 12:15:42 +0100 <Drishal[m]> cause if I launched xmobar with xmproc in the previous builds it would restart without any issues
2021-12-23 12:16:14 +0100 <Drishal[m]> now I have to start xmobar withEasySB instead 🤔
2021-12-23 12:16:34 +0100 <Solid> you don't _have_ to
2021-12-23 12:17:40 +0100 <Solid> you can also use [statusBarPipe](https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar.html#v:statu…) instead of statusBarProp
2021-12-23 12:17:54 +0100 <Solid> which uses the old pipe-based way to talk to xmobar
2021-12-23 12:17:56 +0100 <Solid> it's just discouraged
2021-12-23 12:18:05 +0100 <Solid> (and so not heavily mentioned in the docs)
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2021-12-23 12:32:46 +0100 <Drishal[m]> <Solid> "you can also use [statusBarPipe]..." <- hmm ok 👀
2021-12-23 13:47:44 +0100 <geekosaur> Solid, funny, as I read that they were having problems and fixed them by moving the avoidStruts outside the spacing
2021-12-23 13:48:09 +0100 <geekosaur> that said, the variants of spacing that don't also add screen spacing *might* work in semi-sensible ways
2021-12-23 13:49:31 +0100 <Solid> geekosaur: indeed they did; but "outside" is "after", right?
2021-12-23 13:49:56 +0100 <geekosaur> I worded "after" in terms of the $ $ $ chain
2021-12-23 13:50:08 +0100 <geekosaur> not the internals that most folks won't know about
2021-12-23 13:50:16 +0100 <Solid> oh
2021-12-23 13:51:00 +0100 <geekosaur> suppose that could stand some clarification
2021-12-23 13:52:25 +0100 <geekosaur> (but I think it's still true even there as the constructors get traversed in that order, so avoidStruts should get the unmodified screen rectangle / be "before" anything that reduces the rectangle)
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