2021/12/01

2021-12-01 00:00:03 +0000curiousgay(~curiousga@77-120-141-90.kha.volia.net) (*.net *.split)
2021-12-01 00:00:03 +0000nomadxx3(~lanomadx@69.167.42.149) (*.net *.split)
2021-12-01 00:00:03 +0000yosafbridge(~yosafbrid@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de) (*.net *.split)
2021-12-01 00:00:03 +0000eqw(~eqw@31.134.178.99) (*.net *.split)
2021-12-01 00:00:04 +0000amenonsen(~amenonsen@pitta.toroid.org) (*.net *.split)
2021-12-01 00:00:04 +0000vrs(~vrs@user/vrs) (*.net *.split)
2021-12-01 00:00:04 +0000xacktm(xacktm@user/xacktm) (*.net *.split)
2021-12-01 00:00:18 +0000eqw(~eqw@31.134.178.99)
2021-12-01 00:00:26 +0000steve_(~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net)
2021-12-01 00:00:39 +0000thunderrd(~thunderrd@183.182.110.132)
2021-12-01 00:00:50 +0000joshproehl(~quassel@user/joshproehl)
2021-12-01 00:00:52 +0000nomadxx3(~lanomadx@69.167.42.149)
2021-12-01 00:01:21 +0000amenonsen(~amenonsen@pitta.toroid.org)
2021-12-01 00:01:51 +0000yosafbridge(~yosafbrid@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de)
2021-12-01 00:02:26 +0000banc(banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc)
2021-12-01 00:02:27 +0000xacktm(xacktm@user/xacktm)
2021-12-01 00:02:42 +0000haskl(~haskl@user/haskl)
2021-12-01 00:02:55 +0000curiousgay(~curiousga@77-120-141-90.kha.volia.net)
2021-12-01 00:03:33 +0000vrs(~vrs@user/vrs)
2021-12-01 00:08:32 +0000sheb(~sheb@31.223.228.71) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2021-12-01 00:49:59 +0000mvk(~mvk@2607:fea8:5cc1:fa00::4702)
2021-12-01 01:25:06 +0000geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by allbery_b)))
2021-12-01 01:25:06 +0000allbery_b(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur)
2021-12-01 01:25:09 +0000allbery_bgeekosaur
2021-12-01 02:11:53 +0000sheb(~sheb@31.223.228.71)
2021-12-01 02:14:04 +0000sheb(~sheb@31.223.228.71) (Remote host closed the connection)
2021-12-01 02:14:20 +0000sheb(~sheb@31.223.228.71)
2021-12-01 02:20:48 +0000steve_(~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2021-12-01 02:34:18 +0000 <spoonm> looking at X.U.Dmenu, I see the documentation says runProcessWithInput (X.U.Run) will block XMonad's event loop until the process exits
2021-12-01 02:34:29 +0000 <spoonm> is there a way to run a process without blocking XMonad's event loop?
2021-12-01 02:34:39 +0000 <spoonm> the process I want to run spawns a window that needs to be managed by XMonad
2021-12-01 02:34:48 +0000 <spoonm> but I care about the output of that program in XMonad as well
2021-12-01 02:35:06 +0000 <geekosaur> you can't do both at the same time, no
2021-12-01 02:35:35 +0000 <spoonm> dang it
2021-12-01 02:37:07 +0000 <geekosaur> closest you can get is to spawn a thread which launches the program, but that thread then can't do anything that accesses or affects xmonad's state, which is single-threaded because X11 is essentially single-threaded
2021-12-01 02:38:31 +0000mvk(~mvk@2607:fea8:5cc1:fa00::4702) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2021-12-01 02:38:40 +0000 <geekosaur> (since the server connection is a socket and there's no way to say which thread should receive a message from it)
2021-12-01 03:02:44 +0000banc(banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2021-12-01 03:22:53 +0000td_(~td@muedsl-82-207-238-126.citykom.de) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2021-12-01 03:24:01 +0000banc(banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc)
2021-12-01 03:24:46 +0000td_(~td@muedsl-82-207-238-025.citykom.de)
2021-12-01 04:00:01 +0000haasn(~nand@haasn.dev) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5+deb4 - https://znc.in)
2021-12-01 04:01:21 +0000haasn(~nand@haasn.dev)
2021-12-01 04:14:39 +0000obimod(~obimod@gateway/vpn/pia/obimod) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2021-12-01 04:36:10 +0000sagax(~sagax_nb@user/sagax) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2021-12-01 05:19:06 +0000obimod(~obimod@gateway/vpn/pia/obimod)
2021-12-01 05:45:31 +0000obimod(~obimod@gateway/vpn/pia/obimod) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2021-12-01 05:47:54 +0000obimod(~obimod@gateway/vpn/pia/obimod)
2021-12-01 05:52:41 +0000atwm(~atwm@19-193-28-81.ftth.cust.kwaoo.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2021-12-01 06:05:09 +0000obimod(~obimod@gateway/vpn/pia/obimod) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2021-12-01 06:34:03 +0000werneta(~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2021-12-01 06:35:22 +0000werneta(~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
2021-12-01 06:56:56 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun)
2021-12-01 08:04:03 +0000cfricke(~cfricke@user/cfricke)
2021-12-01 09:01:40 +0000 <Solid> Benzi-Junior: if you have a working stack-based setup, it should be as easy as pointing it to use xmonad-contrib in your stack.yaml file
2021-12-01 09:02:42 +0000 <Solid> e.g. https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/blob/master/xmonad/.config/xmonad/stack.yaml
2021-12-01 09:16:54 +0000geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2021-12-01 09:17:35 +0000geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur)
2021-12-01 09:34:47 +0000mestre(~mestre@191.177.175.57) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2021-12-01 09:58:05 +0000dschrempf(~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net)
2021-12-01 10:07:52 +0000mvk(~mvk@2607:fea8:5cc1:fa00::4702)
2021-12-01 10:23:14 +0000mc47(~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47)
2021-12-01 10:30:37 +0000dschrempf(~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3)
2021-12-01 10:36:59 +0000sn3w[m](~sn3w@2001:470:69fc:105::1:2d0b)
2021-12-01 10:37:10 +0000 <sn3w[m]> \o
2021-12-01 10:37:11 +0000 <sn3w[m]> I'm on NixOS
2021-12-01 10:37:25 +0000 <sn3w[m]> I have a blank xmonad.hs file in ~/.xmonad
2021-12-01 10:37:33 +0000 <sn3w[m]> When I try to open xmonad using startx
2021-12-01 10:37:42 +0000 <sn3w[m]> Nothing appears
2021-12-01 10:37:50 +0000 <sn3w[m]> keybinds don't work
2021-12-01 10:46:28 +0000 <Solid> AFAIR you need at least `main = xmonad def`; I doubt a blank file would even compile (maybe NixOS does some default config magic? I don't know)
2021-12-01 10:48:26 +0000 <sn3w[m]> Solid: https://github.com/geohot/configuration/blob/master/.xmonad/xmonad.hs Is this fine?
2021-12-01 10:48:27 +0000 <Solid> (in any case, try `xmonad --recompile` and see what you get)
2021-12-01 10:48:56 +0000 <Solid> there's some missing indentation
2021-12-01 10:49:00 +0000 <Solid> I don't think this would compile
2021-12-01 10:49:49 +0000 <Solid> indent everything below `main = do` a bit, like http://ix.io/3rh0
2021-12-01 10:51:16 +0000curiousgay(~curiousga@77-120-141-90.kha.volia.net) (Quit: Leaving)
2021-12-01 10:51:57 +0000 <sn3w[m]> Ooh forgot to do xmonad --recompile after updating the configuration
2021-12-01 10:52:22 +0000 <sn3w[m]> setroot -solid gray
2021-12-01 10:52:22 +0000 <sn3w[m]> exec /usr/bin/xmonad
2021-12-01 10:52:30 +0000 <sn3w[m]> Is this fine for exection?
2021-12-01 10:52:37 +0000 <sn3w[m]> * ```
2021-12-01 10:52:37 +0000 <sn3w[m]> setroot -solid gray
2021-12-01 10:52:37 +0000 <sn3w[m]> exec xmonad
2021-12-01 10:52:37 +0000 <sn3w[m]> ```
2021-12-01 10:52:56 +0000 <Solid> yeah that should be fine
2021-12-01 10:53:20 +0000 <Solid> (normally it should check the config's modification date and recompile based on that, though)
2021-12-01 10:53:50 +0000 <sn3w[m]> Hmm then why no mouse and keybindings?
2021-12-01 10:59:29 +0000 <Solid> well, I don't know! :) As an additional data point, your config works just fine for me (e.g., M-S-<Enter> brings up xterm just fine)
2021-12-01 11:00:21 +0000 <Solid> I'm not a NixOS user, so I can't way whether you need to do something special there
2021-12-01 11:23:41 +0000dschrempf(~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net)
2021-12-01 11:25:52 +0000terrorjack(~terrorjac@static.3.200.12.49.clients.your-server.de)
2021-12-01 11:29:55 +0000vrs(~vrs@user/vrs) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2021-12-01 11:30:12 +0000vrs(~vrs@user/vrs)
2021-12-01 11:32:56 +0000banc(banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2021-12-01 11:36:08 +0000dschrempf(~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3)
2021-12-01 11:36:47 +0000banc(banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc)
2021-12-01 12:02:32 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun) (Quit: Leaving.)
2021-12-01 12:16:41 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun)
2021-12-01 12:20:22 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun) (Client Quit)
2021-12-01 12:20:29 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun)
2021-12-01 12:21:44 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun) (Client Quit)
2021-12-01 12:36:04 +0000obimod(~obimod@gateway/vpn/pia/obimod)
2021-12-01 13:36:06 +0000sagax(~sagax_nb@user/sagax)
2021-12-01 13:54:56 +0000 <sn3w[m]> Alright, so seems like there was a bit of misconfiguration in my xinitrc
2021-12-01 13:55:02 +0000 <sn3w[m]> Now it works perfectly fine
2021-12-01 13:55:43 +0000 <sn3w[m]> Also how do I get xmobar to conserve its own space so that xmonad considers that as a window and also to have xmobar appear above every window
2021-12-01 14:00:50 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun)
2021-12-01 14:05:08 +0000 <Solid> sn3w[m]: you want the `docks` combinator, I would imagine ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-ManageDocks.html#v:docks )
2021-12-01 14:05:34 +0000 <Solid> I would also encourage you to go through the tutorial https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
2021-12-01 14:12:15 +0000geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Remote host closed the connection)
2021-12-01 14:16:03 +0000geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur)
2021-12-01 14:32:29 +0000rekahsoft(~rekahsoft@cpe0008a20f982f-cm64777d666260.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
2021-12-01 14:40:25 +0000lyiriyah(~lyiriyah@user/lyiriyah)
2021-12-01 14:49:20 +0000bsima(~bsima@2604:a880:400:d0::19f1:7001) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in)
2021-12-01 14:49:55 +0000bsima(~bsima@2604:a880:400:d0::19f1:7001)
2021-12-01 14:56:51 +0000lyiriyah(~lyiriyah@user/lyiriyah) (Remote host closed the connection)
2021-12-01 15:07:12 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun) (Quit: Leaving.)
2021-12-01 15:25:23 +0000sheb(~sheb@31.223.228.71) (Quit: Leaving)
2021-12-01 15:44:09 +0000dschrempf(~dominik@mobiledyn-62-240-134-39.mrsn.at)
2021-12-01 15:46:15 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun)
2021-12-01 16:06:44 +0000dschrempf(~dominik@mobiledyn-62-240-134-39.mrsn.at) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3)
2021-12-01 16:18:01 +0000seschwar(~seschwar@user/seschwar)
2021-12-01 16:22:07 +0000cfricke(~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3)
2021-12-01 16:24:59 +0000mvk(~mvk@2607:fea8:5cc1:fa00::4702) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2021-12-01 17:05:32 +0000td_(~td@muedsl-82-207-238-025.citykom.de) (Remote host closed the connection)
2021-12-01 17:07:43 +0000 <Solid> liskin: I have a hackage account now; if you want (and add me to the maintainers group) I could try to release x11-xft 0.3.4 (I'm guessing we'd bump first with all of the new changes)
2021-12-01 17:08:26 +0000 <liskin> Solid: you don't need a hackage account to release that
2021-12-01 17:09:08 +0000 <liskin> there's a token configured in the repo
2021-12-01 17:09:35 +0000 <Solid> oh
2021-12-01 17:11:29 +0000 <liskin> anyway, what's the status of the other half of that code - the xmonad part?
2021-12-01 17:11:59 +0000 <Solid> I'm guessing they're waiting on the x11-xft release to pick it back up again
2021-12-01 17:12:31 +0000 <liskin> I thought it might be wise to postpone the release until someone's tried using that code
2021-12-01 17:12:42 +0000 <liskin> (the kernel people have this rule and I quite like it)
2021-12-01 17:14:03 +0000 <Solid> fair enough
2021-12-01 17:14:16 +0000 <Solid> it's not a lot of code on the contrib side, I'll try that with what's currently in x11-xft
2021-12-01 17:15:45 +0000 <liskin> I've had the 0.3.3 release on my "today's" todo list for over a week now, shall I just drop it, do you want to try it on that, or shall I do it anyway?
2021-12-01 17:16:58 +0000 <liskin> it'd be making a branch, adjusting the changelog a tiny bit, releasing a candidate from the branch and making a tagged release from a branch
2021-12-01 17:17:56 +0000 <Solid> 0.3.3 as in everything up to https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/24f6275791f2212215047f7af898750b7846810e or things beyond that as well?
2021-12-01 17:18:46 +0000 <liskin> up to https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/b61d0e08986db087e557001542def3405bc8cf03
2021-12-01 17:20:20 +0000 <Solid> I don't see any harm with releasing that as well
2021-12-01 17:20:32 +0000 <Solid> if it's not a total chore for you feel free to do it :)
2021-12-01 17:21:29 +0000 <liskin> okay
2021-12-01 17:22:01 +0000srk(~sorki@user/srk) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2021-12-01 17:47:34 +0000cyr4x3(~cyr4x3@139.47.118.87)
2021-12-01 17:48:01 +0000 <Solid> liskin: a first tests seems to indicate that font fallback works and the prompt also doesn't crash if only one font is specified
2021-12-01 17:51:30 +0000srk(~sorki@user/srk)
2021-12-01 17:53:16 +0000td_(~td@muedsl-82-207-238-021.citykom.de)
2021-12-01 17:53:16 +0000vermoot_(~vermoot@89-158-106-112.rev.numericable.fr) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2021-12-01 17:54:30 +0000allbery_b(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur)
2021-12-01 17:54:30 +0000geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by allbery_b)))
2021-12-01 17:54:33 +0000allbery_bgeekosaur
2021-12-01 18:04:25 +0000 <liskin> good; 0.3.3 is out
2021-12-01 18:13:53 +0000td_(~td@muedsl-82-207-238-021.citykom.de) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2021-12-01 18:15:43 +0000td_(~td@94.134.91.22)
2021-12-01 18:16:21 +0000qbt(~qbt@user/edun) (Quit: Leaving.)
2021-12-01 18:28:17 +0000 <liskin> Solid: have you thought the X11-xft dependency bump through? (I haven't, but someone should)
2021-12-01 18:28:49 +0000 <liskin> oh, I just got an e-mail that looks like an answer
2021-12-01 18:29:41 +0000 <liskin> or not
2021-12-01 18:31:11 +0000curiousgay(~curiousga@77-120-141-90.kha.volia.net)
2021-12-01 18:35:20 +0000 <Solid> liskin: I have not but I don't see what would break; the releases don't contain any breaking changes and x11-xft builds with ghc that are even older than what xmonad supports
2021-12-01 18:37:05 +0000 <liskin> Solid: stack init with only xmonad/xmonad-contrib might break, perhaps? or will it automatically detect that X11-xft needs to be added to extra-deps?
2021-12-01 18:38:38 +0000cyr4x3(~cyr4x3@139.47.118.87) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
2021-12-01 18:41:22 +0000 <Solid> I would hope it's smart enough to do that
2021-12-01 18:41:24 +0000 <Solid> let's see
2021-12-01 18:44:22 +0000 <geekosaur> mm, I should probably have tested that with cabal too. maybe I updated my local project too soon after all
2021-12-01 18:45:05 +0000 <liskin> I'd expect cabal to just work, as it doesn't freeze dep versions unless you tell it to
2021-12-01 18:53:54 +0000tomsmeding(~tomsmedin@tomsmeding.com) (WeeChat 3.3)
2021-12-01 20:08:33 +0000mvk(~mvk@2607:fea8:5cc1:fa00::4702)
2021-12-01 21:46:11 +0000mestre(~mestre@191.177.175.57)
2021-12-01 22:30:29 +0000Ocelot(~ocelot@50-78-208-189-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
2021-12-01 22:41:07 +0000eqw(~eqw@31.134.178.99) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2021-12-01 22:43:45 +0000geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Remote host closed the connection)
2021-12-01 22:45:29 +0000geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur)
2021-12-01 22:58:43 +0000electr0n(~electr0n@about/security/founder/electr0n)
2021-12-01 23:05:16 +0000seschwar(~seschwar@user/seschwar) (Quit: :wq)
2021-12-01 23:06:03 +0000Vermoot(~vermoot@89-158-106-112.rev.numericable.fr)
2021-12-01 23:14:01 +0000steve_(~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net)
2021-12-01 23:18:27 +0000mc47(~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection)
2021-12-01 23:26:17 +0000electr0n(~electr0n@about/security/founder/electr0n) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2021-12-01 23:28:07 +0000electr0n(~electr0n@about/security/founder/electr0n)
2021-12-01 23:36:13 +0000mestre(~mestre@191.177.175.57) (Quit: Lost terminal)