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2021-11-29 03:21:54 +0000 <abhixec> I am trying to understand how to use subLayouts but having a hard time trying it out
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2021-11-29 03:26:25 +0000 <abhixec> also is there a way that I can tell xmonad to not change my master when I spawn new windows?(make a window/master sticky)
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2021-11-29 08:19:23 +0000 <mra> I've been having some issues with modifications to the config file not taking effect. My config file is ~/.config/xmonad/xmonad.hs, but if I make some change to the config and then Mod-q to recompile XMonad, none of the changes are actually applied. If I reboot my computer, the changes will take effect, but this is the only way that I've been able
2021-11-29 08:19:24 +0000 <mra> to get config changes to work.
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2021-11-29 09:39:41 +0000 <geekosaur> @tell mra are these changes to the layout? you need to mod-shift-space to apply them, because xmonad can't tell the difference between a layout parameter change and something done by mod-j/k/,/.
2021-11-29 09:39:41 +0000 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2021-11-29 09:43:13 +0000 <Vermoot> about that
2021-11-29 09:43:37 +0000 <Vermoot> I don't use default bindings, and right now I've got the same command running with mod+q as in the default config
2021-11-29 09:43:53 +0000 <Vermoot> Can I somehow combine mod+q and mod+shift+space into one?
2021-11-29 09:49:13 +0000 <geekosaur> mm, suppose you could run `setLayout $ layoutHook conf` from the startupHook (assuming you've stashed away a copy of your config somewhere; or if you use the `myLayout` style, just `setLayout myLayout`)
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2021-11-29 13:40:32 +0000Oscar999(~Oscar999@ip5b408840.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2021-11-29 13:56:48 +0000 <Oscar999> I like to ask for some help on an xmonad 0.17.0.9 installation in an Arch Linux System (LTS Kernel: 5.10.82-1) with xmobar 0.39. XMonad has been installed following the guide on xmonad.org
2021-11-29 13:57:37 +0000 <Oscar999> I got it all setup fine up to the point that I try to include XMonad.Actions.Search.
2021-11-29 13:58:25 +0000 <Oscar999> I followed the hackage.haskell.org documentation and I start getting errors when recompiling xmonad.
2021-11-29 13:59:24 +0000 <Oscar999> I am sorry, but I never used the libera.chat - I am not sure how to post more specific information like the xmonad.hs file and the terminal output provided after trying to recompile.
2021-11-29 13:59:51 +0000 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-11-29 13:59:51 +0000 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-11-29 14:03:44 +0000 <Oscar999> Thx.
2021-11-29 14:04:02 +0000 <Oscar999> I just used the link and paste the error message and the xmonad.hs file
2021-11-29 14:04:32 +0000 <Oscar999> xmonad.hs -- paste MDeobxHk
2021-11-29 14:04:46 +0000 <Oscar999> error message -- paste rLI0pBRM
2021-11-29 14:06:26 +0000 <Oscar999> To more precise on my issue:
2021-11-29 14:07:47 +0000 <Oscar999> I successfully integrate the searchPrompt when not using the searchList and instead binding directly the various SearchEngines to various keys. Everything works fine.
2021-11-29 14:08:42 +0000 <geekosaur> you need parentheses around the lists you're appending
2021-11-29 14:09:06 +0000 <geekosaur> open paren before line 108, close paren after line 135
2021-11-29 14:10:12 +0000 <geekosaur> otherwise you're trying to append the lists to your config, which doesn't make sense as the error message says
2021-11-29 14:27:08 +0000Arya[m](~gi-ytmatr@2001:470:69fc:105::d663)
2021-11-29 14:34:20 +0000 <Oscar999> That did it!
2021-11-29 14:34:26 +0000 <Oscar999> Thank you very much.
2021-11-29 14:34:47 +0000 <Oscar999> Still learning everyday about correct Haskell syntax
2021-11-29 14:35:51 +0000 <geekosaur> well, this depends on fixity and I think we don't declare a useful fixity for `additionalKeysP`. if we did it would allow (++) to associate tighter
2021-11-29 14:40:06 +0000 <Solid> we should probably do that, actually
2021-11-29 14:41:38 +0000 <geekosaur> actually I suspect it has a fixity declaration, at minimum so it can be combined with removeKeys{,P}
2021-11-29 14:41:48 +0000 <geekosaur> so it may require some thought
2021-11-29 14:42:19 +0000 <geekosaur> since we can't change the fixity of (++)
2021-11-29 14:44:28 +0000 <Solid> it does not, actually
2021-11-29 14:44:34 +0000 <Solid> nothing in EZConfig does
2021-11-29 14:47:53 +0000 <Solid> combining them with removeKeys still works beause backticks are left associative by default
2021-11-29 14:49:38 +0000 <geekosaur> oh, for some reason I thought they were nonassoc by default (just checked the Report)
2021-11-29 14:51:33 +0000 <geekosaur> so we just need them to have a fixity lower than 5
2021-11-29 14:51:38 +0000 <Solid> yeah
2021-11-29 14:52:02 +0000 <Solid> make all of them `infixl {1..4}`
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2021-11-29 15:51:59 +0000 <geekosaur> goodness, I seem to have gotten myself into quite the discussion on that ticket :)
2021-11-29 15:53:48 +0000 <geekosaur> I feel sorry for them, but it's not quite as simple as they'd like. (Also I seem to have quite forgotten how to configure keys the old way…)
2021-11-29 15:54:09 +0000 <geekosaur> in particular my config really isn't going to work for someone not running MATE
2021-11-29 15:55:23 +0000 <geekosaur> …oh well
2021-11-29 16:00:42 +0000 <mc47> those are a lot of comments
2021-11-29 16:01:32 +0000 <geekosaur> yep
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2021-11-29 17:32:14 +0000 <Solid> make all of them `infixl {1..4}`
2021-11-29 17:32:18 +0000 <Solid> whoops
2021-11-29 17:36:37 +0000 <Solid> well, that issue was quite a ride :)
2021-11-29 17:37:13 +0000 <geekosaur> yep
2021-11-29 17:37:47 +0000 <geekosaur> was half tempted to show them a different way to combine those together but then they'd confuse just about everyone else
2021-11-29 17:38:24 +0000 <geekosaur> @let data Nerp { na :: Int; nb :: String }
2021-11-29 17:38:25 +0000 <lambdabot> Parse failed: Parse error: {
2021-11-29 17:38:31 +0000 <geekosaur> @let data Nerp = Nerp { na :: Int; nb :: String }
2021-11-29 17:38:31 +0000 <lambdabot> Parse failed: Parse error: ;
2021-11-29 17:38:40 +0000 <geekosaur> @let data Nerp = Nerp { na :: Int, nb :: String }
2021-11-29 17:38:41 +0000 <lambdabot> Defined.
2021-11-29 17:38:56 +0000 <geekosaur> > Nerp {na = 5} {nb = "foo"}
2021-11-29 17:38:58 +0000 <lambdabot> error:
2021-11-29 17:38:58 +0000 <lambdabot> • No instance for (Show Nerp)
2021-11-29 17:38:58 +0000 <lambdabot> arising from a use of ‘show_M61290282722890333378’
2021-11-29 17:39:06 +0000 <geekosaur> @let data Nerp = Nerp { na :: Int, nb :: String } deriving Show
2021-11-29 17:39:07 +0000 <lambdabot> .L.hs:162:1: error:
2021-11-29 17:39:07 +0000 <lambdabot> Multiple declarations of ‘Nerp’
2021-11-29 17:39:07 +0000 <lambdabot> Declared at: .L.hs:160:1
2021-11-29 17:39:13 +0000 <geekosaur> @undefine
2021-11-29 17:39:13 +0000 <lambdabot> Undefined.
2021-11-29 17:39:15 +0000 <geekosaur> @let data Nerp = Nerp { na :: Int, nb :: String } deriving Show
2021-11-29 17:39:17 +0000 <lambdabot> Defined.
2021-11-29 17:39:21 +0000 <geekosaur> > Nerp {na = 5} {nb = "foo"}
2021-11-29 17:39:23 +0000 <lambdabot> Nerp {na = 5, nb = "foo"}
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2021-11-29 22:13:50 +0000 <twiclo> Does anyone know of a module that lets me open a new terminal in the same location of the terminal I was just in?
2021-11-29 22:14:45 +0000mc47(~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection)
2021-11-29 22:15:06 +0000 <geekosaur> I don't think there's a reliable way to get that information, sadly
2021-11-29 22:20:10 +0000 <twiclo> I had something doing it in i3. Maybe I'll have to look at that later and see if I can recreate it
2021-11-29 22:21:29 +0000 <geekosaur> there are various ways one might try to do it, including hoping _NET_WM_PID is correct and that the window shares the same current directory as the shell within
2021-11-29 22:22:47 +0000 <geekosaur> sadly, at least the one I run just shows the directory I ran it from, which is usually my homedir
2021-11-29 22:24:16 +0000 <geekosaur> some but not all terminal emulators support an escape sequence to set the current directory for the terminal
2021-11-29 22:49:00 +0000 <liskin> twiclo: https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/168775b0fcfb6f8d1c2191e7b868e5b636988401/.xmonad/XMonad/Ut… https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/168775b0fcfb6f8d1c2191e7b868e5b636988401/.xmonad/XMonad/Ut…
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2021-11-29 23:26:48 +0000dissociate[m](~jessehorn@2001:470:69fc:105::1:41af)
2021-11-29 23:28:01 +0000 <dissociate[m]> Hey all. Are there any special considerations when gaming using xmonad? if i hold down a key in-game it gets 'stuck' and i need to double tap the key again or the behaviour is as if i'm holding the key down.
2021-11-29 23:29:08 +0000 <dissociate[m]> i've only tried a few source games so far. Black Mesa and DOD: Source. seems to be any key that i hold down for anything longer than about 5 seconds. The games function as expected when playing under Budgie.
2021-11-29 23:31:00 +0000 <liskin> dissociate[m]: that looks more like as if you enabled some accessibility settings such as sticky keys
2021-11-29 23:31:14 +0000 <liskin> I've been gaming with xmonad for years and never encountered this
2021-11-29 23:32:33 +0000 <liskin> "xkbset q" will tell you what accessibility toggles are on
2021-11-29 23:32:42 +0000 <dissociate[m]> hmmm, i'll have to look into that thanks liskin. i also do see the active window border around the game screen. Is there anything special i need to do to make the game truely fullscreen?
2021-11-29 23:33:22 +0000 <liskin> ewmh, ewmhFullscreen and possibly also smartBorders should solve all your fullscreen/border issues
2021-11-29 23:38:12 +0000 <dissociate[m]> thanks liskin 🙂 I'm quite new to the world of xmonad custom linux builds in general, so this is all very helpful. This gives me a lot to go on. Appreciate the help
2021-11-29 23:42:10 +0000 <liskin> dissociate[m]: you're welcome :-)