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2021-11-06 12:27:26 +0100desantra(~skykanin@user/skykanin)
2021-11-06 12:28:57 +0100 <desantra> Is it possible to have less than 12 workspaces? I currently have 9 (https://bpa.st/XD6Q) but for some reason polybar is showing more (including 0, -, = workspaces)
2021-11-06 12:30:31 +0100 <Solid> I think changes to the number of workspaces is one of those times where one actually has to restart xmonad completely
2021-11-06 12:34:34 +0100 <desantra> So not just `xmonad --restart`?
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2021-11-06 12:38:05 +0100 <desantra> Solid: yeah, rebooting fixed it
2021-11-06 12:39:16 +0100 <desantra> also, why don't keybindings like ctrl+c work when you've taken a screenshot with flameshot. I have to manually click the copy button now. This used to work in i3 :/
2021-11-06 12:45:17 +0100 <Solid> perhaps you've accidentally grabbed that key already (as in, you have a keybinding for C-c or a combination that start with C-c)
2021-11-06 12:45:36 +0100 <Solid> (though I would assume flameshot actively grabs the keyboard)
2021-11-06 12:46:18 +0100 <desantra> it's not specific to ctrl+c, other bindings like ctrl+s don't work either
2021-11-06 12:46:38 +0100 <desantra> but only when I screenshot with flameshot, otherwise they work fine
2021-11-06 12:47:37 +0100 <desantra> I don't have any C-c prefixed keybindings
2021-11-06 12:49:29 +0100seschwar(~seschwar@user/seschwar)
2021-11-06 13:15:25 +0100 <geekosaur> that seems odd
2021-11-06 13:24:40 +0100 <Solid> I just downloaded flameshot and everything's working fine here
2021-11-06 13:39:28 +0100 <desantra> hmm, also do I need to sleep for 2secs or smth when I start i3-lock on startup, because rn stuff gets rendered on top of the lock screen even though the screen is locked
2021-11-06 13:57:43 +0100 <liskin> I think I fixed this flameshot issue a couple months ago
2021-11-06 13:58:07 +0100 <liskin> Or, more precisely, worked around, and explained to the flameshot developers what they're doing wrong
2021-11-06 14:00:16 +0100 <liskin> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/fde7f4f8b0a9c61051312edd73465bae22c13702
2021-11-06 14:07:48 +0100 <Solid> seems like they're still not grabbing the keyboard
2021-11-06 14:08:02 +0100 <Solid> instead they... display a message that the user has to click on the window in order to focus it :D ( https://github.com/flameshot-org/flameshot/pull/1958 )
2021-11-06 14:12:37 +0100 <desantra> lmao
2021-11-06 14:16:29 +0100 <liskin> I wonder thy don't they just grab the keyboard?
2021-11-06 14:16:35 +0100 <liskin> well, whatever :-)
2021-11-06 14:18:33 +0100 <desantra> so it's a flameshot issue then, the PR is pretty new tho so maybe I have an old version of flameshot
2021-11-06 14:18:33 +0100 <Solid> yeah I was thinking the same thing
2021-11-06 14:18:46 +0100 <Solid> this workaround looks more complicated than just grabbing the keyboard as well
2021-11-06 14:19:24 +0100 <Solid> desantra: the fix to xmonad is also relatively new and you won't have it unless you're on 0.17.0 or newer
2021-11-06 14:19:37 +0100 <desantra> ah, right I'm stuck on 0.15
2021-11-06 14:25:25 +0100 <Solid> mh I wonder when distros will finally update
2021-11-06 14:25:43 +0100 <Solid> from the looks of it, it seems only the BSDs have 0.17.0 in their repos right now
2021-11-06 14:36:41 +0100liskinhas no idea but isn't going to get to helping Debian any time soon :-(
2021-11-06 14:37:26 +0100 <geekosaur> still trying to decide if I want to beard that dragon
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2021-11-06 15:06:47 +0100 <alternateved> Is there a way to use `XMonad.Actions.KeyRemap` with Emacs-like keybindings from `XMonad.Util.EZConfig`?
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2021-11-06 15:10:53 +0100 <xboxn_> hey
2021-11-06 15:12:32 +0100 <geekosaur> hi
2021-11-06 15:12:54 +0100 <xboxn_> i am still a bit new to xmonad but i have seen to have found a bug
2021-11-06 15:13:48 +0100 <fizzie> alternateved: I don't think there's a built-in way, but X.U.EZConfig does export the parser (see `readKeySequence`), which you could use with relatively little plumbing to build X.A.KeyRemap `KeymapTable`.
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2021-11-06 15:15:26 +0100 <geekosaur> jumped out a bit quickly there
2021-11-06 15:15:34 +0100 <geekosaur> xboxn_, what is your issue?
2021-11-06 15:16:35 +0100 <xboxn_> geekosaur: terminal image previews dont seem to be working
2021-11-06 15:16:48 +0100 <xboxn_> i have narrowed it down to xmonad as it seems to work in other wms
2021-11-06 15:17:15 +0100 <xboxn_> and from the errors i have gotten it seems to be a issue with how xmonad reports window titles and locations
2021-11-06 15:19:31 +0100alternateved(~user@staticline-31-183-149-3.toya.net.pl)
2021-11-06 15:20:00 +0100 <alternateved> Thanks! I'll try playing with that.
2021-11-06 15:20:24 +0100 <Solid> xboxn_: I think uberzug (which I'm guessing you use) requires ewmh
2021-11-06 15:21:20 +0100 <geekosaur> I could still see problems even with ewmh, if it has the usual problems with either window borders or lack of frame windows (neither of which is a bug)
2021-11-06 15:23:43 +0100 <geekosaur> image previews don't work in mate-panel's taskbar either, I just switched it to titles because I didn't want previews anyway. since it was displaying garbage I assume it was the window borders that threw it off
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2021-11-06 15:25:04 +0100 <alternateved> Ah, no, I don't think I could manage doing that with those parsers
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2021-11-06 15:27:32 +0100 <xboxn_> huh it is i a bit buggy
2021-11-06 15:27:33 +0100 <geekosaur> mm, actually it seems to be working now, but only if the window has been mapped recently. I think that's just that we unmap windows when not visible
2021-11-06 15:28:56 +0100 <xboxn_> welp i am gonna keep this open in case i need a bit more help while i am configuring more stuff
2021-11-06 15:29:50 +0100 <geekosaur> (but this is mate-panel, I don't know what you are using and it may still have issues with lack of frame windows or use of border_width, we see a lot of that)
2021-11-06 15:31:28 +0100 <fizzie> alternateved: Well, the last one's just a fully wrapped thing that goes from String to (KeyMask, KeySym), the thing you need for X.A.KeyRemap. So in the minimal viable case, it'd just be `KeymapTable [(fromJust (readKeySequence conf "abc"), fromJust (readKeySequence conf "xyz"))]` to do the equivalent of `KeymapTable [((a, bc), (x, yz))]` except with EZConfig-style key descriptions.
2021-11-06 15:32:06 +0100 <fizzie> (It needs `conf` to understand what "M" should represent in the key specification, since that needs to match the modMask.)
2021-11-06 15:32:48 +0100 <alternateved> Yeah, but would that work since you have to specify remapping in two places?
2021-11-06 15:34:16 +0100 <alternateved> One place is the startupHook with something like `setDefaultKeyRemap emptyKeyRemap [myKeyRemap, emptyKeyRemap]`
2021-11-06 15:35:23 +0100 <geekosaur> alternateved, why wouldn't it?
2021-11-06 15:35:24 +0100 <alternateved> And the other place is concatenating keys with `buildKeyRemapBindings [myKeyRemap,emptyKeyRemap]`
2021-11-06 15:35:56 +0100 <fizzie> Three places, really: those two, and a keybinding for changing between them. But why would that matter?
2021-11-06 15:38:36 +0100 <fizzie> Just do a `myKeyRemap = KeymapTable [...]` and you can refer to it from all three places. If it's inconvenient to arrange for `conf` to be the "real" configuration, I imagine you can just use `def { modMask = myModMask }` since the only field that matters is the modMask.
2021-11-06 15:38:53 +0100 <desantra> Solid: nixos is stock on xmonad 0.15 because it's the latest release available on stackages LTS resolver
2021-11-06 15:38:58 +0100 <desantra> stuck*
2021-11-06 15:39:55 +0100 <liskin> I still wonder if we should attempt to upgrade xmonad in older LTS.
2021-11-06 15:40:27 +0100 <liskin> I can imagine good arguments for and against.
2021-11-06 15:42:30 +0100 <desantra> you can update resolver package versions? I thought they were immutable
2021-11-06 15:44:23 +0100 <geekosaur> so did I, and we missed the new LTS by 4 days so it'll be a while :(
2021-11-06 15:47:49 +0100 <alternateved> fizzie: `Couldn't match type ‘(KeyMask, KeySym)’ with ‘[Char]’`
2021-11-06 15:48:02 +0100 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-11-06 15:48:02 +0100 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
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2021-11-06 15:48:30 +0100 <geekosaur> sounds to me like you have something backwards or misplaced
2021-11-06 15:48:43 +0100 <alternateved> Still not sure how that parsing would work here, since it won't parse to [Char] which myKeys is
2021-11-06 15:48:47 +0100 <alternateved> Yeah, I do
2021-11-06 15:49:53 +0100 <geekosaur> hm, [Char] means you don't need to use parsing. this I thought was about using parsing to go from String to the (KeyMaks,KeySym) that KeyRemap expects
2021-11-06 15:50:20 +0100 <geekosaur> *KeyMask
2021-11-06 15:50:37 +0100 <alternateved> No, it is a about making KeyRemap work with EZConfig Emacs bindings
2021-11-06 15:52:37 +0100 <liskin> desantra: you can ask the curators to manually bump a major version of a package, and they can do so if they think it's a good idea
2021-11-06 15:53:23 +0100 <alternateved> Ah, dunno, I have a feeling that without rewritting `XMonad.Actions.KeyRemap` to be more EZConfig friendly it isn't possible
2021-11-06 15:53:29 +0100 <Solid> geekosaur: a newer resolver is out already, actually, but xmonad still seems to be on 0.15/0.16
2021-11-06 15:53:37 +0100 <liskin> geekosaur: did we? LTS 18 has been out for a few months, and we're back in nightly
2021-11-06 15:54:18 +0100 <liskin> (xmonad was dropped because 0.15 didn't build with ghc 9.0)
2021-11-06 15:54:55 +0100 <fizzie> alternateved: The way I interpreted "making KeyRemap work with EZConfig Emacs bindings" *is* the same as parsing (EZConfig) String values into (KeyRemap) KeyTables.
2021-11-06 15:55:55 +0100 <alternateved> The question is mainly how to append output of `buildKeyRemapBindings` function to myKeys which is of type `[(String, X ())]`
2021-11-06 15:56:02 +0100 <geekosaur> when I went to stackage.org it said the LTS had last been updated 4 days ago. so either they released 4 days ago or LTS isn't immutable… but immutability was supposedly one of the selling points of resolvers
2021-11-06 15:56:08 +0100 <fizzie> Oh! Well, don't append to *that*.
2021-11-06 15:56:24 +0100 <fizzie> Just append it to the `keys` field of your configuration.
2021-11-06 15:56:54 +0100 <alternateved> Hmm, do you know how could I refer to default xmonad keys with keys?
2021-11-06 15:57:06 +0100 <Solid> geekosaur: yeah but new stack lts resolvers get released every 1-3 weeks or so
2021-11-06 15:57:39 +0100 <geekosaur> `keys def conf`
2021-11-06 15:58:03 +0100 <fizzie> alternateved: You can see what `additionalKeysP` actually does, to figure out how EZConfig adds the keys to your configuration: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/src/XMonad.Util.EZConfig.html#addit…
2021-11-06 15:58:17 +0100 <geekosaur> if you need a particular key you can then treat that as a Map
2021-11-06 15:59:12 +0100 <fizzie> alternateved: Also, even easier than that, you can just chain `additionalKeys` and `additionalKeysP` to combine your Emacs-style `myKeys` with the table out of buildKeyRemapBindings.
2021-11-06 15:59:56 +0100 <fizzie> As in: assuming your current setup is <your config> `additionalKeysP` myKeys turn that into <your config> `additionalKeysP` myKeys `additionalKeys` buildKeyRemapBindings ...
2021-11-06 16:01:35 +0100 <alternateved> Ahh, I'm dumb
2021-11-06 16:01:41 +0100 <alternateved> You are right
2021-11-06 16:02:15 +0100 <liskin> geekosaur: LTS promises to only bring bugfixes and security patches in minor LTS updates
2021-11-06 16:02:30 +0100 <alternateved> `additionalKeys` takes exactly whate `buildKeyRemapBindings` returns
2021-11-06 16:02:54 +0100 <liskin> geekosaur: Obviously a minor version bump isn't just for fun, it will update minor versions of some packages
2021-11-06 16:03:17 +0100 <liskin> Major updates are only allowed in major LTS bumps
2021-11-06 16:04:38 +0100 <liskin> But 4 days ago a minor update got released, so xmonad major update wasn't even considered. We can only hope that get in on a major LTS bump.
2021-11-06 16:05:13 +0100 <liskin> LTS 19 will have new xmonad. LTS 18 won't, unless the curators choose to bump it anyway.
2021-11-06 16:08:29 +0100 <alternateved> fizzie: Thanks a lot! That was much simpler than I thought
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