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| 2021-10-31 20:16:25 +0100 | gehmehgeh | (~user@user/gehmehgeh) |
| 2021-10-31 20:17:15 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | euhm. Can xmonad take care of tearing / vsync? |
| 2021-10-31 20:19:37 +0100 | <L29Ah> | no |
| 2021-10-31 20:19:39 +0100 | <L29Ah> | but picom can |
| 2021-10-31 20:20:25 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | ah, great. Good idea. |
| 2021-10-31 20:20:30 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | I've heard of picom. |
| 2021-10-31 20:24:40 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | L29Ah: ha, thanks again. That worked. |
| 2021-10-31 20:27:16 +0100 | mariari | (~mariari@user/mariari) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) |
| 2021-10-31 20:30:30 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yeh, vsync requires something lower level than a window manager, either picom or xorg driver config |
| 2021-10-31 20:31:20 +0100 | mariari | (~mariari@user/mariari) |
| 2021-10-31 20:33:16 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | geekosaur: yep |
| 2021-10-31 20:38:39 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | hmm, the "no-fading-openclose" option doesn't seem to apply when I switch virtual desktops |
| 2021-10-31 20:38:43 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | (in picom) |
| 2021-10-31 20:39:00 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | hmm, Imma look for some config that turns everything off except the vsync |
| 2021-10-31 20:43:27 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | Cool. Thanks everyone :) |
| 2021-10-31 20:56:20 +0100 | <L29Ah> | gehmehgeh: picom --vsync --backend glx --glx-no-stencil --glx-no-rebind-pixmap --use-damage |
| 2021-10-31 20:56:27 +0100 | L29Ah | uses this |
| 2021-10-31 20:56:53 +0100 | <L29Ah> | but when xmonad's fullscreen extension doesn't segfault xmonad, it can make mpv behave w/o tearing |
| 2021-10-31 20:57:01 +0100 | <L29Ah> | w/o picom |
| 2021-10-31 20:57:05 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | ah |
| 2021-10-31 20:57:11 +0100 | <geekosaur> | uh |
| 2021-10-31 20:57:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you have segfaults? |
| 2021-10-31 20:57:19 +0100 | <L29Ah> | but picom is awesome because with --dbus you can use https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-extras/pull/32 |
| 2021-10-31 20:57:23 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | well I use a config file |
| 2021-10-31 20:57:29 +0100 | <L29Ah> | geekosaur: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/328 |
| 2021-10-31 20:57:35 +0100 | <geekosaur> | oh |
| 2021-10-31 20:57:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I still want to see a gdb backtrace, for what good it'll do |
| 2021-10-31 20:58:20 +0100 | <L29Ah> | you didn't ask for it so i didn't preserve it :/ |
| 2021-10-31 20:58:46 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | L29Ah: do you still have the core dump? |
| 2021-10-31 20:58:47 +0100 | <geekosaur> | may need to build xmonad with debugging turned on and/or system package debug symbols installed, for it to make sense |
| 2021-10-31 20:59:18 +0100 | <L29Ah> | gehmehgeh: even if i had, the binary is long gone |
| 2021-10-31 20:59:23 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | ah, ok |
| 2021-10-31 20:59:47 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hm, I thought I had asked for it, but it looks like there's already at least a partial backtrace in that issue |
| 2021-10-31 21:02:03 +0100 | <geekosaur> | xmonad-0zi16zi99999zm1NVWfzz55W6QFvQzzDgdWm3D_XMonad.Core_$fLayoutClassLayoutWord64_.chandleMessage_info I think. (I need to write a z-code expander someday) |
| 2021-10-31 21:03:42 +0100 | <geekosaur> | eurgh, that looks bad. we should not be dumping core there. otoh you did say 9.0.1 and that's a pretty buggy ghc release |
| 2021-10-31 21:04:00 +0100 | <geekosaur> | 9.2.1 fixes most / hopefully all of the bugs |
| 2021-10-31 21:05:45 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (but we have an open pr fixing pattern match failures that 9.2.1 uncovers, so 8.10.7 may be preferable) |
| 2021-10-31 21:09:29 +0100 | <L29Ah> | ok i'll hop on 9.2.1 as soon as it's in Gentoo |
| 2021-10-31 21:10:59 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I'm kinda hard put to figure how it would be dumping core while evaluating a message unless it's either a ghc bug or undetected heap corruption from an earlier ffi call |
| 2021-10-31 21:11:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | problem is, the latter are still soemwhat likely because xmonad/X11 very badly needs a full audit to make sure we're properly handling all possible X11 returns/errors |
| 2021-10-31 21:20:15 +0100 | <gehmehgeh> | L29Ah: Thanks again for sharing your picom settings :) |
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| 2021-10-31 21:47:21 +0100 | <L29Ah> | geekosaur: can i ask ghc for asan or smth? |
| 2021-10-31 21:48:15 +0100 | catman | (~catman@user/catman) |
| 2021-10-31 21:49:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I don't think asan will work with the 2-stage allocator? |
| 2021-10-31 21:49:51 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and I doubt asan can make any sense of ghc's heap (or its stack, since it doesn't have one in the normal sense) |
| 2021-10-31 21:51:04 +0100 | <liskin> | note that the pattern match failures are just warnings, it all builds just fine without pedantic |
| 2021-10-31 21:51:42 +0100 | <liskin> | one needs to allow-newer: setlocale:base, hsc2hs:base, though |
| 2021-10-31 21:52:34 +0100 | <geekosaur> | wonder how hard it would be to allow xmonad or -contrib to use head.hackage |
| 2021-10-31 21:53:07 +0100 | <liskin> | probably a single line in cabal.haskell-ci? |
| 2021-10-31 21:53:45 +0100 | <liskin> | oh, head.hackage is something else |
| 2021-10-31 21:54:14 +0100 | <geekosaur> | right, it's a set of patches used to build hackage packages with development ghc versions |
| 2021-10-31 21:54:31 +0100 | <geekosaur> | think it's part of the ghc repo |
| 2021-10-31 21:55:23 +0100 | <liskin> | still, haskell-ci should just handle that |
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| 2021-10-31 23:01:14 +0100 | <liskin> | oh crap, ppOrder = \(_:_:windowTitle:_) -> … now triggers Pattern match(es) are non-exhaustive :-( |
| 2021-10-31 23:01:39 +0100 | <liskin> | up until now it felt like these are maybe useful warnings, but this is just ugly :-/ |
| 2021-10-31 23:01:46 +0100 | <liskin> | what a waste of time |
| 2021-10-31 23:03:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/pyanfar/xmonad.hs#L277-L279 |
| 2021-10-31 23:08:11 +0100 | <liskin> | geekosaur: thx |
| 2021-10-31 23:08:27 +0100 | <liskin> | this is way better than anything I was going to come up with :-) |
| 2021-10-31 23:09:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | well, I meant that more as in "but that pattern *can* in fact not match, for unknown reasons" |
| 2021-10-31 23:09:31 +0100 | <geekosaur> | or at least I was never able to figure them out |
| 2021-10-31 23:10:10 +0100 | <liskin> | with dynamicLogString it most certainly can not |
| 2021-10-31 23:10:12 +0100 | <geekosaur> | *one* of them might be because I was firing logHook off from startupHook and maybe the layoutHook hadn't done anything yet. but the other three? |
| 2021-10-31 23:10:44 +0100 | <liskin> | I mean, with dynamicLogString being the only caller of ppOrder |
| 2021-10-31 23:10:54 +0100 | <liskin> | which isn't guaranteed in any way |
| 2021-10-31 23:10:58 +0100 | <liskin> | so… whatever :-) |
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