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2021-10-19 01:25:47 +0000 <liskin> uff, #399 is no more and #626 is almost ready for review, I'm almost certain I can finish this tomorrow
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2021-10-19 07:06:15 +0000 <Solid> ^^^^ good news, everybody!
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2021-10-19 15:24:53 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> hello, I have a question: recently I have been toying around with the variouos prompt from xmonad-contrib, and I came across the input prompt; the page makes an example fireEmployee :: String -> (). now, I wanted to make a function that takes the user input and launches a browser with that search query, but I cannot wrap my head around the ?+ operator, can anyone help me in composing it?
2021-10-19 15:25:39 +0000 <FOSS_Human> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Prompt-Input.html#v:-63--43-
2021-10-19 15:28:37 +0000 <FOSS_Human> Safeguard-IRC: There's a prompt that already does what you want: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-Search.html
2021-10-19 15:29:24 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> wot how did I miss that
2021-10-19 15:29:50 +0000 <FOSS_Human> lol, no problem
2021-10-19 15:34:39 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> okay i've been trying it out, but it does not open my any browser, do I need to declare the Browser type?
2021-10-19 15:35:39 +0000 <geekosaur> it tries the browser identified by $BROWSER in the environment first
2021-10-19 15:35:46 +0000 <geekosaur> that's probably not set
2021-10-19 15:35:52 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> indeed it's not set
2021-10-19 15:36:07 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> but can I use a myBrowser variable declared in xmonad.hs?
2021-10-19 15:36:41 +0000 <FOSS_Human> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-Search.html#t:Browser
2021-10-19 15:36:45 +0000 <FOSS_Human> Takes a filepath
2021-10-19 15:36:59 +0000 <geekosaur> you might just pass the name of a browser (e.g. "chromium") where it wants a Browser
2021-10-19 15:37:07 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> ah dumb me, I just put "qutebrowser"
2021-10-19 15:39:28 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> it keeps sayingthat it's not in scope as a data constructor, do I need to import anything else beside XMonad.Action.Search ?
2021-10-19 15:40:14 +0000 <geekosaur> what are you actually doing?
2021-10-19 15:40:18 +0000 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-10-19 15:40:18 +0000 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-10-19 15:41:06 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> https://termbin.com/0bn3, line 581 and 463
2021-10-19 15:41:29 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> pardon the mess in the file, I need to clean it up
2021-10-19 15:43:09 +0000 <geekosaur> you don't set Browser, it's the name of a type and can't be assigned to
2021-10-19 15:43:25 +0000 <liskin> hm, shouldn't https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Prompt-Shell.html#v:getBrowser default to sensible-browser or x-www-browser rather than hardcoding firefox?
2021-10-19 15:43:29 +0000 <geekosaur> instead, where a function signature asks for a Browser, you pass the string "qutebrowser"
2021-10-19 15:43:57 +0000 <geekosaur> liskin, probably
2021-10-19 15:44:30 +0000 <geekosaur> I think debianoids patch it to be "x-www-browser"
2021-10-19 15:45:49 +0000 <liskin> yeah that's my first thought: that some distros might not have these aliases
2021-10-19 15:46:32 +0000 <geekosaur> Safeguard-IRC, when you write `Browser = "qutebrowser"`, it does not do an assignment because `Browser` is not a variable, it is a data constructor and there is no such data constructor. And if there were, you wouldn't be able to assign to it; instead it would do a pattern match (except the types don't match so you'd get another compile error)
2021-10-19 15:47:05 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> so.. let's see if I got this right: I should redefine promptSearchBrowser like this in my xmonad.hs: promptSearchBrowser :: XPConfig -> "/usr/bin/qutebrowser" -> SearchEngine -> X () ?
2021-10-19 15:47:45 +0000 <geekosaur> nope
2021-10-19 15:48:01 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> okay then I did not understand
2021-10-19 15:48:50 +0000 <geekosaur> you call promptSearchBrowser as: promptSearchBrowser myXPConfig "qutebrowser" S.google
2021-10-19 15:49:02 +0000 <geekosaur> (substitute your chosen SearchEngine
2021-10-19 15:49:19 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> ... I feel stupid
2021-10-19 15:50:34 +0000 <geekosaur> rowser is an alias for FilePath, which is itself an alias for String, so you pass a String for that argument
2021-10-19 15:50:40 +0000 <geekosaur> *Browser
2021-10-19 15:52:36 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> okay I got it
2021-10-19 15:53:36 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> I've been trying to do the following: browser = "/usr/bin" <> myBrowser, but it does not seem to work. myBrowser is also a String, and putting /usr/bin/qutebrowser works
2021-10-19 15:54:00 +0000 <FOSS_Human> ??
2021-10-19 15:54:11 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> pardon me, let me be more clear
2021-10-19 15:54:19 +0000 <FOSS_Human> Just declare a function name like: `myBrowser = "/usr/bin/firefox"` ??
2021-10-19 15:54:19 +0000 <geekosaur> <> doesn't add a slash, so it ends up /usr/binqutebrowser
2021-10-19 15:54:42 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> i've mistyped, there is a slash
2021-10-19 15:54:51 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> browser :: String
2021-10-19 15:54:51 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> browser = "/usr/bin/" <> myBrowser
2021-10-19 15:55:21 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> ((altMask, xK_o), promptSearchBrowser myXPConfig browser duckduckgo ),
2021-10-19 15:56:40 +0000 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-10-19 15:56:40 +0000 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-10-19 15:56:43 +0000 <geekosaur> include the error
2021-10-19 15:56:51 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> there is no error, it just does not work
2021-10-19 15:57:26 +0000 <geekosaur> interesting. there should be no difference
2021-10-19 15:57:42 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> line 463, 581 and 582: https://termbin.com/nw3z9
2021-10-19 15:59:14 +0000 <FOSS_Human> Safeguard-IRC:
2021-10-19 15:59:21 +0000 <FOSS_Human> myBrowser :: String
2021-10-19 15:59:22 +0000 <FOSS_Human> myBrowser = "/usr/bin/qutebrowser"
2021-10-19 15:59:24 +0000 <FOSS_Human> ((altMask, xK_o), promptSearchBrowser myXPConfig myBrowser duckduckgo ),
2021-10-19 15:59:25 +0000 <FOSS_Human> ??
2021-10-19 15:59:31 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> let me try
2021-10-19 16:00:06 +0000 <Solid> Safeguard-IRC: myBrowser has a space at the end, so it tries to execute /usr/bin/qutebrowser\s
2021-10-19 16:00:09 +0000 <Solid> which doesn't exist
2021-10-19 16:00:26 +0000 <geekosaur> yeh, just noticed that
2021-10-19 16:00:34 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> FOSS_HUman not working
2021-10-19 16:01:06 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> oh wait, I put a space, in myBrowser, now it's working
2021-10-19 16:01:07 +0000 <geekosaur> get rid of the space, promptSearchBrowser uses safeSpawn so it thinks the space is part of the command name
2021-10-19 16:02:05 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> hmhm okay
2021-10-19 16:02:56 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> what about the "/usr/bin/" <> myBrowser, it fails because it puts a \s at the end?
2021-10-19 16:03:17 +0000 <geekosaur> myBrowser had the space in it, so it was just copied over
2021-10-19 16:03:26 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> let me try
2021-10-19 16:03:28 +0000 <geekosaur> <> doesn't know you expected it to skip the space
2021-10-19 16:04:12 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> yeah now it works, thank you all
2021-10-19 16:04:46 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> another question: If I ever manage to make a irc bridge, will a IRC<->Telegram bridge be allowed here?
2021-10-19 16:06:19 +0000 <geekosaur> suspect we'd want to discuss that on the mailing list with everyone else involved; not everyone is on here at the same time (I think I only overlap with mc47 during my evening, for example)
2021-10-19 16:06:48 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> yes yes I get it
2021-10-19 16:06:50 +0000 <FOSS_Human> Dunno about everyone else but it's 5pm for me here in the UK rn
2021-10-19 16:07:19 +0000 <geekosaur> 12:07 US/Eastern
2021-10-19 16:07:31 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> 6:07 in It
2021-10-19 16:07:46 +0000 <FOSS_Human> Wow big time differences lol
2021-10-19 16:08:00 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> oh sorry, 6 PM i meant
2021-10-19 16:08:06 +0000 <FOSS_Human> Oh k
2021-10-19 16:08:29 +0000 <geekosaur> and I log IRC in UTC becuase in many of the channels I'm in there are even bigger spreads
2021-10-19 16:09:48 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> another question: I've been looking at the source of the multi searchengine, and at the end it as (prefixAware google), if I redefine multi with prefixAware duckduckgo, will it default to ddg?
2021-10-19 16:10:27 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> or is there a better way to do it?
2021-10-19 16:12:16 +0000 <Solid> you don't have to redefine anything that X.A.Search already defines
2021-10-19 16:12:36 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> but how I would make multi define to ddg then?
2021-10-19 16:12:48 +0000 <Solid> the docs for !> show an example of how to define your own multi search engine: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-Search.html#v:-33--62-
2021-10-19 16:13:21 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> aaaah
2021-10-19 16:13:24 +0000 <FOSS_Human> Wow cool!, I might add this to my setup aswell
2021-10-19 16:13:33 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> today I really can't read
2021-10-19 16:13:46 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> I'm sorry haha, I shoud look more carefully at the docs
2021-10-19 16:14:53 +0000 <geekosaur> searchEngineF takes a function that can build arbitrary search engines, that's the closest you come to needing to modify code
2021-10-19 16:15:08 +0000 <geekosaur> but for most cases !> covers what you want
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2021-10-19 16:17:34 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> ..it's not working, I defined multiengine like this: multiEngine = intelligent (wikipedia !> duckduckgo !> youtube !>amazon !> (prefixAware duckduckgo))
2021-10-19 16:17:34 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> but typing like youtube:test, youtube: test, youtube test just opens ddg with that query
2021-10-19 16:18:39 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> just uusing multi works tough
2021-10-19 16:19:36 +0000 <geekosaur> it's youtube:test
2021-10-19 16:20:14 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> yes,still not working, see the first example
2021-10-19 16:20:33 +0000 <geekosaur> sorry, missed that
2021-10-19 16:20:35 +0000 <geekosaur> hm
2021-10-19 16:23:23 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> well for now it's not needed, since I use mostly ddg's bangs
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2021-10-19 16:27:50 +0000 <Solid> lol
2021-10-19 16:27:55 +0000 <Solid> yeah it's a bug in X.A.Search
2021-10-19 16:28:41 +0000 <Solid> how the !> operator associates is not specified and so it associates to the left by default
2021-10-19 16:29:02 +0000 <Solid> which then mangles names when combining search engines like s1 !> s2 !> s3
2021-10-19 16:29:15 +0000 <Solid> mulit sensibly folds to the right so it doesn't have that behaviour
2021-10-19 16:32:40 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> hm I think I see
2021-10-19 16:34:12 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> well, thank you all for your help, and sorry for beign so dumb
2021-10-19 16:34:13 +0000 <Solid> the tl;dr is to specify your search engines as `multiEngine = intelligent (foldr1 (!>) [wikipedia, youtube, amazon, prefixAware duckduckgo])' for now
2021-10-19 16:34:29 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> Solid let me try
2021-10-19 16:34:46 +0000 <Solid> (you might have to import Data.List or something for foldr1)
2021-10-19 16:36:04 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> I have already Data.List imported ^^ matter of fact I was wrangling with it before, if you see my {single,dual}Mon functions I use intercalate. but apparently there is a type mismatch if I add to dualMon systray, since it's X() and intercalate makes them char (?)
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2021-10-19 16:37:19 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> Solid: yep that is working, thanks
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2021-10-19 17:13:15 +0000 <liskin> $ make -C ~/.xmonad-testing .sub/xmonad-something
2021-10-19 17:13:33 +0000 <liskin> how could I lived without something like this :-)
2021-10-19 17:14:04 +0000 <liskin> creates a subdir, three git workdirs (X11, xmonad, xmonad-contrib), dummy xmonad.hs, Makefile, and builds that
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2021-10-19 18:26:17 +0000 <Solid> sounds like a good addition to scripts/ :)
2021-10-19 18:28:05 +0000 <liskin> it's rather tied to my spiderweb of dotfiles Makefiles
2021-10-19 18:28:48 +0000 <Solid> ah I see
2021-10-19 18:30:53 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> I'm back with two more questions: is there something akin to showwsname but for generic purpose? like, I have a submap, and when I press the keystroke to trigger it (control space) I would like to have a little popup showing the options
2021-10-19 18:32:51 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> the second question is: how do I map something to the question mark and exclamation key? I tried xK_question, but it does not seem to be working
2021-10-19 18:36:52 +0000 <alternateved> I think you would need something akin to (modMask .|. shiftMask, xK_slash)
2021-10-19 18:37:06 +0000 <Solid> 1. I don't believe something like this exists (well, there's of course things like X.U.XUtils, but these basically amount to libraries for drawing arbitrary things)
2021-10-19 18:37:46 +0000 <alternateved> The same goes for exclamation key - you would need to start with `1` key
2021-10-19 18:37:57 +0000 <alternateved> but it depends of course on your keyboard layout
2021-10-19 18:38:01 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> us
2021-10-19 18:38:42 +0000 <alternateved> So what I've advised should apply
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2021-10-19 18:38:49 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> since I have it on a submap I do control-space, then shift+1 to make exclamation mark or shift+/ to make question mark but both don't work
2021-10-19 18:39:04 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> let me try
2021-10-19 18:39:07 +0000Solidwas playing around with the idea of something like a popup for submaps a while ago but didn't have enough motivation to finish it
2021-10-19 18:39:12 +0000 <Solid> maybe I'll pick that back up after the release
2021-10-19 18:39:37 +0000 <Solid> would give me a chance to perhaps look into making X.U.XUtils a bit more ergonomic in places
2021-10-19 18:40:33 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> alternateved yeah that worked.I feel it's a bit hacking, but hey it works
2021-10-19 18:41:20 +0000 <alternateved> As far as I know, this is how it works for most X window managers
2021-10-19 18:41:35 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> about the arbitrary showing I need to look at XMonad.Utils.XUtils?
2021-10-19 18:43:25 +0000 <Solid> you'd essentially need to write it yourself
2021-10-19 18:43:42 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> hmm.. I think a stumpwm approach is better for my sanity then lol
2021-10-19 18:44:00 +0000 <Safeguard-IRC> like bind control-space ? to make a little yad popup (which is what i'm using right now)
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2021-10-19 18:50:59 +0000 <geekosaur> there are smarter window managers which recognize the need to add shift, but they then have more problems with keyboards that have alternative mappings
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2021-10-19 19:21:02 +0000 <mc47> For some reason, reddit is suggesting r/de_DEV as a "deutsche Version von r/xmonad" lol
2021-10-19 19:21:18 +0000 <mc47> s/DEV/EDV
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2021-10-19 19:53:36 +0000 <Solid> lol
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2021-10-19 21:17:56 +0000 <liskin> mc47[m]: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Doc/Extending.hs#L1904 is still after #593
2021-10-19 21:20:03 +0000 <liskin> I mean, the section does mention StatusBar briefly, but it doesn't appear to reflect that DynamicLog is not the recommended interface now
2021-10-19 21:21:09 +0000 <geekosaur> it even suggests the old DynamicLog interface that assumes you run xmonad | xmobar
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2021-10-19 23:57:59 +0000 <liskin> my yesterday's optimism of finishing #626 today was perhaps a bit clouded by not thinking straight at 3:30 in the morning :-/
2021-10-19 23:58:33 +0000 <liskin> actually 2:30, but I didn't fall asleep until 4
2021-10-19 23:59:10 +0000 <liskin> anyway, the only missing bit is adjustment of X.H.Focus docs, so I'm gonna get some sleep today and hopefully do it tomorrow morning :-)