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2021-10-05 03:51:58 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> Wooh, installing `v0.16.99999` locally via nix was quite the adventure, and I still haven't quite figured out the overlay part of it yet. I'll get to that though. Then I may actually decide to dedicate some of my free-time to learning haskell more with xmonad.
2021-10-05 03:52:22 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> Because, I don't want to become dependent upon stack/cabal directly again.
2021-10-05 03:52:22 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> Never, again XD.
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2021-10-05 04:49:29 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> Yay, got overlays working. I had to modify IvanMalison 's flake.nix, I'll push those changes upstream.
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2021-10-05 13:33:24 +0200 <liskin> oh, looks like shitoberfest is here (#614) :-D
2021-10-05 13:49:50 +0200jokleinn(~jokleinn@user/jokleinn)
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2021-10-05 14:05:16 +0200 <Solid> oh, is it one of those?
2021-10-05 14:05:28 +0200 <Solid> I thought they were making an actual effort :(
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2021-10-05 15:08:55 +0200 <liskin> well, they may as well be; they opened a couple issues on other repos and while all are about READMEs, it's not just a template, it is personalized
2021-10-05 15:10:55 +0200 <liskin> and I'm not sure if mentoring complete beginners who may need a couple more years to get into Haskell is worth it at this point of the project, so I'd say it's somewhat fair to call it shitoberfest, although maybe not entirely fair
2021-10-05 15:11:57 +0200 <liskin> (but I'm not complaining or anything, it was just an amused remark; I really don't think we're the kind of project that's likely to attract dozens of useless single-word PRs)
2021-10-05 15:12:32 +0200 <Solid> yeah I just checked their profile ._.
2021-10-05 15:13:36 +0200 <Solid> but realistically, xmonad's code base does not use many fancy techniques, I reckon it wouldn't take all that long for a dedicated beginner to start contributing
2021-10-05 15:13:48 +0200 <Solid> (not applicable in this case, of course, but still)
2021-10-05 15:14:28 +0200 <geekosaur> I'd argue that we could use a dedicated beginner to overhaul the docs a bit. just don't think that's a very good start
2021-10-05 15:14:46 +0200 <geekosaur> (and the bloody wiki)
2021-10-05 15:16:28 +0200 <geekosaur> I mean, some of the contrib docs could use a fair amount of love
2021-10-05 15:18:34 +0200 <liskin> yeah, that's probably right, a dedicated talented (e.g.) 15-year old can get a lot of stuff done, true
2021-10-05 15:19:01 +0200 <liskin> now if only any of us were able to actually attract such a person :-)
2021-10-05 15:22:30 +0200jokleinn(~jokleinn@user/jokleinn)
2021-10-05 15:23:20 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> Distrotube on YT attracts a lot of younger people to XMonad
2021-10-05 15:23:30 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> I don't know about "a lot" though
2021-10-05 15:26:43 +0200 <Tisoxin> > <@vherrmann:shmerver.de> ```... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/4a813d215fddbf4be2bac108146f7f322885…)
2021-10-05 15:26:44 +0200 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’
2021-10-05 15:27:17 +0200 <Tisoxin> correct would be `show n ++ " $HOME/.config"`
2021-10-05 15:28:12 +0200 <Tisoxin> <liskin> "yeah, that's probably right, a..." <- i wish i was 15-years old, i'd have so much time
2021-10-05 15:29:34 +0200 <Tisoxin> <jakefromstatefarm[m]> "Yay, got overlays working. I had..." <- *very interested*
2021-10-05 15:30:38 +0200 <geekosaur> Tisoxin, wish I'd been around before, I spottred that one almost immediately :)
2021-10-05 15:30:38 +0200 <Tisoxin> atm i have a flake with xmonad and xmonad-contrib as inputs and just use `nix develop` to get an environment to recompile xmonad
2021-10-05 15:30:56 +0200 <geekosaur> gotta be careful with those spaces
2021-10-05 15:32:22 +0200 <Tisoxin> <geekosaur> "PATH issues are all I can..." <- geekosaur: tbh i don't think you'd have spotted it ↑
2021-10-05 15:32:41 +0200 <geekosaur> hm
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2021-10-05 15:36:29 +0200 <Tisoxin> (I'm not sure if you checked the code snippet, since i posted it a bit earlier)
2021-10-05 15:37:46 +0200TORRENTER[m](~lol111mat@2001:470:69fc:105::1:ad7) ()
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2021-10-05 16:03:35 +0200dschrempf(~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net)
2021-10-05 16:13:57 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> <vherrmann[m]> "atm i have a flake with xmonad..." <- I'll be using nix develop for, well, developing. But for actual use, it's nice to have an overlay for hm+/flakes.
2021-10-05 16:18:16 +0200 <Solid> TORRENTER[m] | Distrotube on YT attracts a lot of younger people to XMonad << sadly, the youngin's that are attracted don't appear to stick around for that long :/ (not that other people do either)
2021-10-05 16:18:37 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> (heh, then there's me)
2021-10-05 16:25:33 +0200 <liskin> Maybe if we (and by that I mean myself) were more welcoming, they'd have stuck longer. I am quite aware that I was quite pedantic towards both oogeek and auscyberman. I thought and still think my expectations of their pace of improvement were reasonable, but I also acknoledge that other people/communities may handle this better.
2021-10-05 16:26:32 +0200 <Tisoxin> > <@jakefromstatefarm[m]:libera.chat> > <@vherrmann[m]:libera.chat> atm i have a flake with xmonad and xmonad-contrib as inputs and just use `nix develop` to get an environment to recompile xmonad
2021-10-05 16:26:32 +0200 <Tisoxin> >
2021-10-05 16:26:32 +0200 <Tisoxin> > I'll be using nix develop for, well, developing. But for actual use, it's nice to have an overlay for hm+/flakes.
2021-10-05 16:26:32 +0200 <Tisoxin> do you have a public config?
2021-10-05 16:26:34 +0200 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’
2021-10-05 16:26:34 +0200 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:30: error: parse error on input ‘,’
2021-10-05 16:29:44 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> vherrmann[m]: https://gitlab.com/mikenrafter/config/-/blob/master/nix/flake.nix
2021-10-05 16:30:27 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> My config is not directly cloneable yet.
2021-10-05 16:30:35 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> There's some weird quirks I have to iron out.
2021-10-05 16:30:40 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> But, you're free to take a look.
2021-10-05 16:47:53 +0200 <geekosaur> folks who are well out there on the spectrum are rarely the best at mentoring newcomers (and I'm looking in a mirror as I say this…)
2021-10-05 16:48:53 +0200 <geekosaur> (being nearly 60 means I know my shortcomings all too well. it does not mean I have the faintest freaking clue what to do about them)
2021-10-05 16:49:29 +0200azg256(~azg256@78-56-98-5.static.zebra.lt)
2021-10-05 16:51:29 +0200 <Solid> liskin: with those two in particular I felt like the expectations were reasonable enough
2021-10-05 16:51:44 +0200 <Solid> I think what was really missing was more interaction outside of PRs via IRC or matrix
2021-10-05 16:51:53 +0200 <Solid> this would probably have helped on multiple fronts
2021-10-05 17:01:05 +0200 <liskin> yeah, I guess I should prioritise updating CONTRIBUTING.md to make it very clear that we like to chat
2021-10-05 17:01:22 +0200 <liskin> (and also that we don't really insist on squashing commits in PR any more :-))
2021-10-05 17:05:46 +0200 <eezo[m]> <liskin> "Maybe if we (and by that I..." <- I'm sticking around mostly because my workplace is super flexible when it comes to work machines. If I couldn't use xmonad as my DD, I'm not sure I'd have the patience to get good at it - I have 2 young kids I have to worry about outside of business hours, so my time outside of work often isn't on my desktop
2021-10-05 17:06:43 +0200 <eezo[m]> ngl though, DT heavily influenced my decision. I don't agree with him on some things, but I think he's right about XMonad. (ArcoLinux tho....meh)
2021-10-05 17:07:18 +0200 <eezo[m]> (for me, Manjaro > ArcoLinux, but that's heavily influenced by my Opinions on how things Ought To Be Done)
2021-10-05 17:17:47 +0200eezo[m]uploaded an image: (28KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zXlVoRSUswXDEzjbXKCcLwZJ/image.png >
2021-10-05 17:17:48 +0200 <eezo[m]> btw, how do you make a good-performing "reverse" tall layout? That is, master on the right? I'm using `reflectHoriz Tall` as seen in my xmonad.hs screenshot:
2021-10-05 17:18:31 +0200 <eezo[m]> but that makes movement backwards: `M-h` & `M-l` do the opposite of what I want
2021-10-05 17:22:49 +0200 <eezo[m]> sorry, not movement - resizing
2021-10-05 17:24:54 +0200geekosaurwonders if you can reflectHoriz something involving https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-Master.html
2021-10-05 17:27:16 +0200 <Solid> it might make more sense if you think of M-h and M-l not as "expand and shrink left to right" but as "expand and shrink the master pane" (which is what they do)
2021-10-05 17:29:25 +0200 <eezo[m]> good point
2021-10-05 17:30:23 +0200berberman_(~berberman@user/berberman)
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2021-10-05 17:37:38 +0200liskinuses REFLECTX from MultiToggle and it reverses everything, so not just resizing is messed up, but switching windows as well
2021-10-05 17:38:37 +0200 <liskin> hence I don't actually use it very often, and when the number of windows is expected to be static, just increasing the number of windows in the master pane is probably what I end up doing :-)
2021-10-05 17:38:58 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> vherrmann[m]: I forgot, my xmonad flake isn't in there, nor my locally cloned xmonad, see: https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/9401976f for the xmonad flake (the contrib flake is the same, just with `"xmonad-contrib"` instead of `"xmonad"`
2021-10-05 17:39:49 +0200 <Tisoxin> thx
2021-10-05 17:40:21 +0200 <Solid> what's going on with the nicknames btw; can you change your IRC display name in matrix?
2021-10-05 17:42:01 +0200 <Tisoxin> Solid: yes, you cane
2021-10-05 17:42:15 +0200 <Tisoxin> *can
2021-10-05 17:43:19 +0200 <Solid> that's pretty neat; but also very confusing because it doesn't change the highlights
2021-10-05 17:43:34 +0200niemand(~niemand@p2e52fb71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2021-10-05 17:44:06 +0200 <Tisoxin> hm
2021-10-05 17:44:07 +0200 <Solid> so I see jakefromstatefar highlighting "vherrmann[m]" and then Tisoxin is answering as if addressed x)
2021-10-05 17:44:52 +0200 <Tisoxin> I think jakefromstatefarm[m] could also adress me with @Tosixon
2021-10-05 17:45:05 +0200 <Tisoxin> (me name in matrix is Tosixon as well)
2021-10-05 17:45:32 +0200 <Tisoxin> *my
2021-10-05 17:46:21 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> All your messages are coming through `vhrerrmann[m]:libera.chat`. I've not seen a single message from @Toxison, in fact, my tab completion for names doesn't even give me the ability to mention that handle.
2021-10-05 17:46:30 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> On my side, anyway
2021-10-05 17:47:15 +0200 <Tisoxin> the same applies to you as well
2021-10-05 17:47:26 +0200 <Solid> oh are you two on different matrix channels
2021-10-05 17:47:38 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> Different matrix servers.
2021-10-05 17:47:39 +0200dschrempf(~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3)
2021-10-05 17:47:42 +0200 <Solid> s/on/in/
2021-10-05 17:47:45 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> homeservers*
2021-10-05 17:48:23 +0200 <niemand> though in another matrix channel, i can see complete sb with the standard matrix server
2021-10-05 17:48:25 +0200 <niemand> very weird
2021-10-05 17:48:47 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> I think it's just the IRC bridge.
2021-10-05 17:49:56 +0200 <niemand> yeah
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2021-10-05 18:56:08 +0200mc47(~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47)
2021-10-05 18:58:29 +0200 <mc47> liskin, well, it looks that we at least have one meaningful contribution (to the nix things that I don't understand) :-D we'll see
2021-10-05 19:04:40 +0200werneta(~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
2021-10-05 19:04:52 +0200 <mc47> Regarding #613, I won't bother updating the docs for deprecated functions
2021-10-05 19:05:10 +0200 <mc47> Or modules
2021-10-05 19:05:30 +0200 <mc47> or X.Config.* :) that's it I swear
2021-10-05 19:05:36 +0200 <Solid> :)
2021-10-05 19:12:57 +0200 <liskin> mc47: oh, I didn't connect those contributions to hacktoberfest :-)
2021-10-05 19:14:14 +0200 <liskin> and now that I looked at the diff for the second time, I almost feel like I can understand what's going on
2021-10-05 19:14:35 +0200 <liskin> not enough to be able to tell whether the commit message is a good one or not, though
2021-10-05 19:17:22 +0200 <mc47> liskin, I think I know what you mean (I took a look at the hacktoberfest user's issues, they seem like they're farming them)
2021-10-05 19:17:42 +0200 <mc47> Yeah I'm not sure I understand that commit message too, but I guess it's good enough
2021-10-05 19:17:53 +0200 <liskin> mc47: did you not notice the shitstorm last year btw?
2021-10-05 19:18:22 +0200 <mc47> I wasn't around last year ;)
2021-10-05 19:18:38 +0200 <Solid> we didn't get hit
2021-10-05 19:18:42 +0200 <Solid> but a lot of other projects did
2021-10-05 19:19:03 +0200 <Solid> (we also didn't participate, which explains the former ;))
2021-10-05 19:19:21 +0200 <liskin> well "didn't participate" isn't technically correct
2021-10-05 19:19:33 +0200 <liskin> before the shitstorm participation was opt out
2021-10-05 19:19:52 +0200 <Solid> oh was it?
2021-10-05 19:19:58 +0200 <Solid> interesting
2021-10-05 19:20:23 +0200 <liskin> yeah, I got a bunch of t-shirts a couple years back making ordinary contributions to projects that had no idea
2021-10-05 19:20:34 +0200 <liskin> hacktoberfest just happened to be good timing
2021-10-05 19:21:04 +0200 <liskin> but last year some indian youtuber told people how to exploit it, and some projects were hit really hard, so they made it opt-in after the first week or something
2021-10-05 19:21:15 +0200 <liskin> and then kept adjusting the rules for the rest of the month
2021-10-05 19:21:22 +0200 <mc47> Is it still opt-in?
2021-10-05 19:22:02 +0200 <liskin> yes, it is, and there are now guidelines how to mark PRs as spam so that it's harder to exploit it to get a free swag
2021-10-05 19:22:16 +0200 <liskin> and also this year maintainers can get a t-shirt just for reviewing stuff
2021-10-05 19:22:29 +0200 <liskin> so I guess if I merge the two nix PRs I'm halfway there :-)
2021-10-05 19:22:37 +0200 <Solid> :D
2021-10-05 19:22:42 +0200 <mc47> Might as well opt-in :D
2021-10-05 19:22:55 +0200 <liskin> by opt-in I meant for projects
2021-10-05 19:23:02 +0200 <liskin> it was always opt-in for participants
2021-10-05 19:23:13 +0200 <liskin> it's not like you get a free t-shirt without registering, lol
2021-10-05 19:23:22 +0200 <mc47> haha yeah I got that
2021-10-05 19:23:48 +0200 <mc47> in all fairness, I think a swarm of contributions would just slow us down at this point
2021-10-05 19:24:17 +0200 <liskin> but yeah, if you guys don't intend to make a lot of PRs this month, do register as a maintainer
2021-10-05 19:24:30 +0200 <liskin> the t-shirts are nice, last long, and don't stink
2021-10-05 19:24:38 +0200 <Solid> lol
2021-10-05 19:24:51 +0200 <liskin> (which is something that can't unfortunately be said about the xkcd ones, the oldest one I have stinks after half a day)
2021-10-05 19:25:35 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> mc47: Mmh, I think it would just backlog. I'd just focus on the next release. Then bother with new stuff.
2021-10-05 19:25:36 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> Unless it's a big bugfix, of course.
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2021-10-05 19:26:05 +0200 <Solid> eh, most first time contributions will be small stuff anyways
2021-10-05 19:26:11 +0200 <Solid> which doesn't take long at all to review
2021-10-05 19:26:49 +0200 <mc47> Solid my problem is that I'll get frustrated for missing descriptions and things like that
2021-10-05 19:27:37 +0200 <Solid> mc47: at this point I just do that stuff myself for very new contributors; much faster and less friction for everyone involved :)
2021-10-05 19:28:07 +0200 <mc47> jakefromstatefar: yeah, I think any big bugs that exist should've revealed themselves by now
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2021-10-05 19:28:26 +0200 <geekosaur> well, we still have that one crashing bug open
2021-10-05 19:28:34 +0200 <geekosaur> which still surprises me
2021-10-05 19:28:57 +0200 <mc47> Solid: that's the right thing to do, but sometimes people open issues with "xmonad is black" in the title with not description (exaggerating, but you get the gist of it)
2021-10-05 19:29:23 +0200 <mc47> geekosaur, that segfault? It was suprirsing for me too but I have no idea how to debug it
2021-10-05 19:29:28 +0200 <geekosaur> I'd have thought we'd have ironed out most of the X11 API issues by now
2021-10-05 19:29:30 +0200 <geekosaur> yeh
2021-10-05 19:29:38 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> I made a nice random-color function that works with gridselect and window borders/tab coloring.
2021-10-05 19:29:38 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> It's fairly complete... I'd just like to add reading from a file, as an option to set with it.
2021-10-05 19:29:38 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> Should I add it?
2021-10-05 19:29:39 +0200 <geekosaur> need a reproducer to point gdb at
2021-10-05 19:29:53 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> It has a dependency from `random-fu`, so probably xmonad-extra...
2021-10-05 19:30:25 +0200 <liskin> the crashing bug seems to be some corner case with tkabber, I don't think I'll realistically ever get to reproducing it :-/
2021-10-05 19:31:01 +0200 <Solid> jakefromstatefar: if you could reduce that to just random you'd be good to go (we already depend on that)
2021-10-05 19:32:54 +0200 <geekosaur> I thought random-fu was more or less superseded by random 1.2 anyway
2021-10-05 19:33:20 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> Not sure, when I made it I needed something from `fu` that random didn't have.
2021-10-05 19:33:24 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> I don't recall what, though.
2021-10-05 19:33:31 +0200 <Solid> probably, random 1.2 is really good
2021-10-05 19:33:34 +0200 <geekosaur> 1.2 has lots of big changes/additions
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2021-10-05 22:00:25 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> Hello everyone again, I've been messing around with XMonad.Prompt.RunOrRaise and since it can open both directories and executables (in /usr/bin); I've been having an issue where a directory that has the same name as an executable causes the directory to always be shown in a file manager; An example of this is in this scenario: I type `vmware` into the prompt, the `vmware` program has a directory in my home dir that has the same name as
2021-10-05 22:00:25 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> the executable in `/usr/bin`, if I select `vmware` thunar file manager launches and shows the `vmware` directory, if I select `vmware/` thunar file manager launches and shows the `vmware` directory aswell. Shouldn't `vmware` be the executable and `vmware/` be the dir?? It should not launch in both cases...
2021-10-05 22:00:45 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> * directory to *always, * always* be
2021-10-05 22:00:54 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> * directory to _*always, * always*_ be
2021-10-05 22:01:03 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> s/always/*_always_*/
2021-10-05 22:03:06 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> s/Hello everyone again, I've been messing around with XMonad.Prompt.RunOrRaise and since it can open both directories and executables (in /usr/bin); I've been having an issue where a directory that has the same name as an executable causes the directory to always be shown in a file manager; An example of this is in this scenario: I type `vmware` into the prompt, the `vmware` program has a directory in my home dir that has the same name as
2021-10-05 22:03:06 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> the executable in `/usr/bin`, if I select `vmware` thunar file manager launches and shows the `vmware` directory, if I select `vmware/` thunar file manager launches and shows the `vmware` directory aswell. Shouldn't `vmware` be the executable and `vmware/` be the dir?? It should not launch in both cases.../Hello everyone again, I've been messing around with XMonad.Prompt.RunOrRaise and since it can open both directories and executables (in
2021-10-05 22:03:06 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> /usr/bin); I've been having an issue where a directory that has the same name as an executable causes the directory to _always_ be shown in a file manager; An example of this is in this scenario: I type `vmware` into the prompt, the `vmware` program has a directory in my home dir that has the same name as the executable in `/usr/bin`, (the prompt shows 2 matches: `vmware` and `vmware/`), if I select `vmware` thunar file manager launches
2021-10-05 22:03:06 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> and shows the `vmware` directory, if I select `vmware/` thunar file manager launches and shows the `vmware` directory aswell. Shouldn't `vmware` be the executable and `vmware/` be the dir?? It should not launch in both cases.../
2021-10-05 22:03:43 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> s/Hello everyone again, I've been messing around with XMonad.Prompt.RunOrRaise and since it can open both directories and executables (in /usr/bin); I've been having an issue where a directory that has the same name as an executable causes the directory to always be shown in a file manager; An example of this is in this scenario: I type `vmware` into the prompt, the `vmware` program has a directory in my home dir that has the same name as
2021-10-05 22:03:43 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> the executable in `/usr/bin`, if I select `vmware` thunar file manager launches and shows the `vmware` directory, if I select `vmware/` thunar file manager launches and shows the `vmware` directory aswell. Shouldn't `vmware` be the executable and `vmware/` be the dir?? It should not launch in both cases.../Hello everyone again, I've been messing around with XMonad.Prompt.RunOrRaise and since it can open both directories and executables (in
2021-10-05 22:03:43 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> /usr/bin); I've been having an issue where a directory that has the same name as an executable causes the directory to _always_ be shown in a file manager, with the executable *never* being executed; An example of this is in this scenario: I type `vmware` into the prompt, the `vmware` program has a directory in my home dir that has the same name as the executable in `/usr/bin`, (the prompt shows 2 matches: `vmware` and `vmware/`), if I
2021-10-05 22:03:43 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> select `vmware` thunar file manager launches and shows the `vmware` directory, if I select `vmware/` thunar file manager launches and shows the `vmware` directory aswell. Shouldn't `vmware` be the executable and `vmware/` be the dir?? It should not launch in both cases.../
2021-10-05 22:05:06 +0200 <geekosaur> edits don't work in IRC, we just got 10 lines of gobbledygook
2021-10-05 22:05:31 +0200 <geekosaur> anyway I wonder if it should accept a * suffix for an executable, like ls shows
2021-10-05 22:05:32 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> crap
2021-10-05 22:05:55 +0200 <geekosaur> and otherwise just take the first one it finds
2021-10-05 22:06:30 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> Is it still readable?? Or should I edit the message and send it without them things..
2021-10-05 22:06:46 +0200 <geekosaur> suffix / working is kinda by accident though, not something specific that RunOrRaise does
2021-10-05 22:08:51 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> So you are suggesting "vmware*" for an executable and "vmware/" for a file directory? Seems reasonable
2021-10-05 22:10:14 +0200 <geekosaur> yes
2021-10-05 22:10:30 +0200 <geekosaur> would require some additional code
2021-10-05 22:10:46 +0200 <jakefromstatefar> I think it it should default to `vmware*`, and `vmware/` should need to be explicitly stated.
2021-10-05 22:11:37 +0200 <geekosaur> either way, could you file an issue at https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues ?
2021-10-05 22:12:02 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> geekosaur: Yeah sure! I'll do it rn..
2021-10-05 22:12:04 +0200 <geekosaur> we can discuss what the right thing would be there, and include folks who aren't around right now
2021-10-05 22:12:15 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> Seems reasonable
2021-10-05 22:20:19 +0200 <geekosaur> actually one additional reason I'd like that as an issue is that it might not be our fault
2021-10-05 22:21:01 +0200 <geekosaur> shells can be configured to autoopen directories, in which case this comes down to what the shell does and we may not have much control over it
2021-10-05 22:22:49 +0200 <geekosaur> (this occurs to me because runOrRaise would not work well directly with a file manager, because of https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/General_xmonad.hs_config_tips#Terminal_emulator_factories)
2021-10-05 22:24:46 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> geekosaur: This is true, zsh on my setup goes automatically to a directory without cd even being typed into it before the name of the dir
2021-10-05 22:24:54 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> Issue Opened: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/616
2021-10-05 22:25:03 +0200 <geekosaur> just got the email, yes
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2021-10-05 23:33:39 +0200 <FOSSHuman[m]> <jakefromstatefar> "I think it it should default to..." <- Yeah, I agree with this too..