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| 2021-08-06 10:17:27 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by allbery_b))) |
| 2021-08-06 10:17:28 +0200 | allbery_b | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) |
| 2021-08-06 10:17:31 +0200 | allbery_b | geekosaur |
| 2021-08-06 11:09:15 +0200 | <Solid> | [x] I've considered how to best test these changes (property, unit, manually, ...) and concluded: XXX << this always makes me laugh for some reason :D |
| 2021-08-06 11:51:57 +0200 | <liskin> | I wish it made me laugh :-/ |
| 2021-08-06 11:52:44 +0200 | <liskin> | but I just absolutely hate jerks who selfishly waste my time, but I'm not strong enough to not get angry :-/ |
| 2021-08-06 11:55:53 +0200 | <Solid> | ah don't get angry, I'm sure documentation will be added in some form or another |
| 2021-08-06 11:56:19 +0200 | <Solid> | I'm more bummed about the fact that (after I tried really hard not to) we now need to export Magnifier internals :/ |
| 2021-08-06 11:56:53 +0200 | <Solid> | (maybe we need a "[ ] I have ticked some of these boxes without doing them" box :>) |
| 2021-08-06 12:00:39 +0200 | <liskin> | well, "don't get angry" is something I've been hearing since elementary school |
| 2021-08-06 12:00:51 +0200 | <liskin> | they even tried "try to get X instead" |
| 2021-08-06 12:00:54 +0200 | <liskin> | nope |
| 2021-08-06 12:01:04 +0200 | <liskin> | anyway |
| 2021-08-06 12:01:26 +0200 | <liskin> | Ivan's dotfiles don't use any of the Magnifier internals yet |
| 2021-08-06 12:01:39 +0200 | <liskin> | so I suspect that PR may be a dead end, and I posted a question there |
| 2021-08-06 12:01:48 +0200 | <liskin> | so I'd consider that one a draft |
| 2021-08-06 12:02:06 +0200 | <Solid> | I see |
| 2021-08-06 12:02:33 +0200 | <Solid> | not sure if it'd help but I can offer (well not right now, but in a few days) to take over the pr so you don't have to think about it |
| 2021-08-06 12:10:48 +0200 | <liskin> | well it's not that bad |
| 2021-08-06 12:12:24 +0200 | <liskin> | at the end I managed to reply constructively, I'd say, so it's not like I need someone to take over :-) |
| 2021-08-06 12:12:37 +0200 | <Solid> | Okay, fair enough :) |
| 2021-08-06 12:13:06 +0200 | <liskin> | not going to hold you back chiming in either, though, if there's more to it |
| 2021-08-06 12:13:19 +0200 | <liskin> | just: not necessary to treat it any different than any other PR |
| 2021-08-06 12:13:36 +0200 | <liskin> | and if you do have free time in a couple days, there are higher priority issues :-) |
| 2021-08-06 12:14:07 +0200 | <liskin> | anyway, I'll be off for the rest of today |
| 2021-08-06 12:14:28 +0200 | <Solid> | sure, take care |
| 2021-08-06 14:06:24 +0200 | <Drishal[m]> | OK so I have a really strange issue, for some reason GTK apps (file managers mainly) keep breaking on xmoand 🤔 |
| 2021-08-06 14:06:31 +0200 | <Drishal[m]> | but does not break on qtile |
| 2021-08-06 14:06:32 +0200 | <Drishal[m]> | * but does not break on dwm |
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| 2021-08-06 15:24:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I don't have problems with Gtk apps includinbg file managers, but I run xmonad under MATE and mate-settings-daemon changes how Gtk apps behave |
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| 2021-08-06 22:23:10 +0200 | allbery_b | geekosaur |
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| 2021-08-06 23:06:08 +0200 | vifon | (~vifon@user/vifon) |
| 2021-08-06 23:07:00 +0200 | <vifon> | Hello. Is this possible to make the Mirror layout modifier be conditional? I want it applied only if the workspace using a layout appears on a vertically rotated screen. |
| 2021-08-06 23:11:00 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | vifon: funnily enough, I literally just wrote something that should allow you to do exactly what you want |
| 2021-08-06 23:11:07 +0200 | <vifon> | \o/ |
| 2021-08-06 23:11:25 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/582 |
| 2021-08-06 23:11:38 +0200 | <vifon> | Hah! |
| 2021-08-06 23:12:16 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | as you can see though liskin pointed out some minor issues with the change, so I am going to be tweaking it a bit |
| 2021-08-06 23:12:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | there's also IfMax which exists now although it isn't quite as flexible |
| 2021-08-06 23:13:10 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | geekosaur: I don't think IfMax would do what he wants though, right? |
| 2021-08-06 23:13:32 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | although I suppose that he could try to use that as a template for writing something similar |
| 2021-08-06 23:13:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it conditionalizes on width |
| 2021-08-06 23:13:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's admittedly kinda oddly named |
| 2021-08-06 23:14:11 +0200 | <vifon> | I see a window number in the description. |
| 2021-08-06 23:14:28 +0200 | <vifon> | This one, right? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-IfMax.html |
| 2021-08-06 23:14:40 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | geekosaur: The description says: -- IfMax layout will run one layout if number of windows on workspace is as |
| 2021-08-06 23:14:40 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | -- maximum N, and else will run another layout. |
| 2021-08-06 23:15:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yeh, I got the wrong one., hold on |
| 2021-08-06 23:15:39 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | vifon: Here's an exaple of ConditionalModifier https://github.com/IvanMalison/dotfiles/blob/6d7070b24d6ed8509319111204357f81c6d8e8cd/dotfiles/con… |
| 2021-08-06 23:15:47 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-PerScreen.html |
| 2021-08-06 23:16:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | which is even worse named imo |
| 2021-08-06 23:16:06 +0200 | <vifon> | IvanMalison[m]: 404 |
| 2021-08-06 23:16:18 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | oops let me push |
| 2021-08-06 23:16:21 +0200 | <vifon> | Oh, this one looks fun! |
| 2021-08-06 23:16:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and I thought the other one was LimitWindows but that again does something else |
| 2021-08-06 23:16:53 +0200 | <vifon> | Nah, I know about LimitWindows, I even use it. :) |
| 2021-08-06 23:17:07 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | geekosaur: vifon but the other thing is that both IfMax and PerScreen don't quite do what vifon wants, in that they let you choose between two different layouts |
| 2021-08-06 23:17:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we have too many layouts :/ |
| 2021-08-06 23:17:24 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | not decide whether or not to apply a layout modifier |
| 2021-08-06 23:17:25 +0200 | <vifon> | Yes, but PerScreen should be just enough. |
| 2021-08-06 23:17:47 +0200 | <vifon> | I could use ifWider 1234 return Mirror |
| 2021-08-06 23:17:51 +0200 | <vifon> | Probably. |
| 2021-08-06 23:18:45 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | vifon: but the thing is that youd have to supply the same layout twice or something, but not mirrored in one |
| 2021-08-06 23:19:03 +0200 | <vifon> | Can it be a set of layouts? |
| 2021-08-06 23:19:22 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | and this especially wouldn't play well with e.g. toggles or other layout modifiers |
| 2021-08-06 23:19:40 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | especially if those layout modifiers are themselves stateful in some way |
| 2021-08-06 23:19:59 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | you'd need to be careful to put it at the bottom of your layout stack |
| 2021-08-06 23:20:21 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | and ALSO, if you have a bunch of layouts, you'd need to apply it to each of them individually |
| 2021-08-06 23:20:45 +0200 | <vifon> | Yes, it all makes sense. |
| 2021-08-06 23:21:37 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | The more I think about it, the more I think using anything like PerScreen for what you want to do actually makes very little sense and is sort of inviting bugs and surprising behavior |
| 2021-08-06 23:21:46 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | you really want to operate at the level of modifiers, rather than the level of layouts |
| 2021-08-06 23:22:12 +0200 | <vifon> | A very quick draft, it seems to work. https://einval.eu/upload/U8z4hAZqfTXRqKuh5ft2R1wo.png |
| 2021-08-06 23:22:41 +0200 | <vifon> | Yes, the indentation is ugly right now. |
| 2021-08-06 23:23:07 +0200 | <vifon> | But yes, I can already see the multiCol state not being preserved. |
| 2021-08-06 23:23:28 +0200 | <vifon> | I'd say it's good enough. |
| 2021-08-06 23:23:29 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | vifon: it will work, for sure, but yeah you're going to lose state between them, and it is really just inviting all kinds of weirdness |
| 2021-08-06 23:23:50 +0200 | <vifon> | I don't use this workspace for anything "huge". |
| 2021-08-06 23:23:58 +0200 | <vifon> | IRC, Matrix/Element, Signal… |
| 2021-08-06 23:24:09 +0200 | <vifon> | I just sometimes want to move it over to a larger screen. |
| 2021-08-06 23:24:26 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | suit yourself |
| 2021-08-06 23:24:40 +0200 | <vifon> | If it would be more robust, I could apply it to all the layouts, but I understand it's what it is. |
| 2021-08-06 23:25:09 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | yeah if you're happy with that, go for it |
| 2021-08-06 23:25:21 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | it is a litereally perfect usecase for ConditionalModifier, though |
| 2021-08-06 23:25:27 +0200 | <vifon> | Yes. |
| 2021-08-06 23:25:34 +0200 | <vifon> | I'll be waiting for it to reach nixpkgs. |
| 2021-08-06 23:25:44 +0200 | <IvanMalison[m]> | just use an overlay |
| 2021-08-06 23:28:23 +0200 | <vifon> | Perfect. https://einval.eu/upload/Oy6t6mD3DopJorrfqbr0T3PC.png |
| 2021-08-06 23:28:34 +0200 | <vifon> | …for now. |
| 2021-08-06 23:30:42 +0200 | <vifon> | Anyway, I've subscribed to your PR. Thanks! |
