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2021-07-11 00:21:03 +0200seschwar(~seschwar@user/seschwar) (Quit: :wq)
2021-07-11 01:31:04 +0200Kitty[m]KittyOwO[m]
2021-07-11 01:31:29 +0200 <^[> geekosaur: That reminds me that Firefox seems to make an off-by-one error when calculating the mouse position, but it goes away when I turn off the 1px window borders.
2021-07-11 01:31:37 +0200 <^[> Is that likely a bug on their end?
2021-07-11 01:32:17 +0200 <geekosaur> sounds like it. try increasing the window border by 1pxs and see if the error changes along with it
2021-07-11 01:37:22 +0200 <^[> It does.
2021-07-11 01:37:56 +0200 <geekosaur> tsk. :)
2021-07-11 01:38:48 +0200 <^[> I thought it only affected JS, but it also causes the context menu to be shifted as if the border wasn't there.
2021-07-11 01:39:12 +0200 <geekosaur> that doesn't surprise me too much
2021-07-11 01:40:34 +0200 <geekosaur> much of firefox is either JS or the underlying stuff their JS is built upon
2021-07-11 01:40:46 +0200 <geekosaur> which I forget the name of
2021-07-11 01:41:06 +0200 <^[> Used to be XUL, I think, but that's either gone or on the way out.
2021-07-11 01:41:32 +0200 <^[> Or is that what got replaced by JS for the UI?
2021-07-11 01:42:16 +0200 <geekosaur> I was thinking of XBL which is even older
2021-07-11 01:42:52 +0200 <geekosaur> looks like Web Components now? but it's all the same basic idea, the browser is built on JS which is built on top of another layer
2021-07-11 01:43:19 +0200 <geekosaur> the browser itself but not web-sourced JS has direct access to the underlayer
2021-07-11 03:58:25 +0200Endermen1094[m](~matrixend@2001:470:69fc:105::312b)
2021-07-11 03:59:26 +0200Nosrep(~archbox@user/nosrep)
2021-07-11 03:59:41 +0200 <Nosrep> what do i do if i accidentally shrink a floating window so much i can't see it anymore and let go
2021-07-11 03:59:44 +0200 <Nosrep> asking for a friend
2021-07-11 04:00:06 +0200 <Endermen1094[m]> Should i try xmonad as a first time dynamic tiling window manager ?
2021-07-11 04:00:53 +0200 <Endermen1094[m]> My current setup is a gentoo install on a lenovo laptop
2021-07-11 04:03:15 +0200banc(banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2021-07-11 04:05:18 +0200 <Nosrep> yes
2021-07-11 04:05:39 +0200 <Nosrep> i think i3 is more beginner friendly though
2021-07-11 04:05:46 +0200 <Nosrep> or even bspwm
2021-07-11 04:05:54 +0200 <Nosrep> config file might be hardish if you don't know haskell
2021-07-11 04:07:02 +0200 <geekosaur> people here are often helpful with getting a config file going, or you can search github or etc. for others' configs
2021-07-11 04:07:45 +0200 <Endermen1094[m]> <Nosrep "yes"> Currently compiling desktop/gnome @world set and installing the system and bootloader
2021-07-11 04:07:56 +0200 <Nosrep> mkday
2021-07-11 04:08:03 +0200 <Nosrep> i am good at typig
2021-07-11 04:09:39 +0200 <Endermen1094[m]> So install dmenu or will it bring it in as a depwncece ?
2021-07-11 04:10:15 +0200 <Endermen1094[m]> <Nosrep "i am good at typig"> Is that ment to be interpreted as sarcasm ?
2021-07-11 04:10:28 +0200 <Nosrep> you decide
2021-07-11 04:10:31 +0200 <geekosaur> Nosrep, it should still be focused, so mod-t to tile it
2021-07-11 04:10:40 +0200 <Nosrep> oh right
2021-07-11 04:10:42 +0200 <Nosrep> forgot about that
2021-07-11 04:10:48 +0200 <geekosaur> if it's not, mod-j until no window appears to be focused and then mod-t
2021-07-11 04:10:51 +0200 <Nosrep> also i don't think it installs dmenu as a dep, ine didn't
2021-07-11 04:11:17 +0200 <Nosrep> (also rofi ftw but w/e)
2021-07-11 04:11:54 +0200 <geekosaur> no, it doesn't generally get marked as a dependency. (if it did they'd probably also mark gmrun as a dependency since that's what the shifted version runs)
2021-07-11 04:14:14 +0200 <geekosaur> but also people might choose to rebind to use XMonad.Prompt.Shell or something, like I did
2021-07-11 04:18:11 +0200 <Endermen1094[m]> So install dmenu, a Bluetooth manager , a network manager , lightdm , xfce4-termenal ,and Firefox. To. Have a set up base system ?
2021-07-11 04:19:37 +0200 <Endermen1094[m]> <Nosrep "config file might be hardish if "> I will try to learn it
2021-07-11 04:19:58 +0200 <Nosrep> my "base" system is like
2021-07-11 04:20:03 +0200 <Nosrep> uh
2021-07-11 04:20:44 +0200td_(~td@94.134.91.203) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2021-07-11 04:21:19 +0200 <Nosrep> xmonad, rofi, firefox, kitty, pulseaudio, redshift, dhcpcd(idk why i need it but for some reason it fixed my internet),
2021-07-11 04:21:34 +0200 <Nosrep> picom
2021-07-11 04:22:04 +0200 <Nosrep> zsh
2021-07-11 04:22:37 +0200td_(~td@94.134.91.97)
2021-07-11 04:22:47 +0200 <Nosrep> and a few other obvious stuff like sudo and other misc packages
2021-07-11 04:23:14 +0200 <Endermen1094[m]> Yep
2021-07-11 04:23:53 +0200banc(banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc)
2021-07-11 04:24:42 +0200 <Endermen1094[m]> <Nosrep "xmonad, rofi, firefox, kitty, pu"> Dhcpcd automatically gives you a ip that is not static
2021-07-11 04:24:58 +0200 <geekosaur> yeh, your machine can't access the internet without dhcpcd or something which does the same thing
2021-07-11 04:25:14 +0200 <geekosaur> or you have a static ip address but that's rare these days
2021-07-11 04:25:19 +0200 <Nosrep> that expalins it
2021-07-11 04:25:45 +0200 <geekosaur> even if you have a fixed address most networks aare configured to give it out via dhcp
2021-07-11 04:26:02 +0200 <Nosrep> wait so does dnsmasq do the same thing
2021-07-11 04:26:21 +0200 <geekosaur> yes
2021-07-11 04:26:53 +0200 <Nosrep> speaking of dhcpcd
2021-07-11 04:26:54 +0200 <geekosaur> like, my router uses dnsmasq to among other things give out dhcp addresses
2021-07-11 04:26:56 +0200 <Nosrep> how's roy marples doing
2021-07-11 04:27:44 +0200 <Nosrep> still alive at least
2021-07-11 04:28:37 +0200 <Nosrep> so i guess i can delete dhcpcd?
2021-07-11 04:28:51 +0200 <Nosrep> i have dnsmasq from a dep of libvirtd's networking thing i think
2021-07-11 04:29:35 +0200 <geekosaur> hm, actually dnsmasq may do the other end of it only
2021-07-11 04:30:28 +0200 <geekosaur> yeh, sorry, it's only a server not a client
2021-07-11 04:30:40 +0200 <Nosrep> o rip
2021-07-11 04:30:41 +0200 <geekosaur> not sure what does the client end on my router
2021-07-11 04:37:02 +0200 <Nosrep> poll: do you guys have borders on your xmonad windows
2021-07-11 04:37:13 +0200 <Nosrep> i dont because fadeinactive just looks better
2021-07-11 04:39:40 +0200 <geekosaur> I use both borders and compton's inactive-dim (not fadeinactive even though I wrote it because I don;t so much want transparency as fading)
2021-07-11 04:40:09 +0200 <geekosaur> but I'm apparently weird that way, I dislike transparency in general
2021-07-11 04:42:28 +0200 <Nosrep> you wrote fadeinactive?
2021-07-11 04:42:32 +0200 <Nosrep> thats cool
2021-07-11 04:42:42 +0200 <Nosrep> also why compton
2021-07-11 04:42:47 +0200 <Nosrep> isn't it mostly unmaintained these days
2021-07-11 04:45:23 +0200 <geekosaur> it still works and is what my distro had packaged :)
2021-07-11 04:45:36 +0200 <geekosaur> and I keep hearing of performance issues with various versions of picom
2021-07-11 04:48:13 +0200 <Nosrep> hm
2021-07-11 04:48:15 +0200 <Nosrep> it's fine for me
2021-07-11 04:48:23 +0200 <Nosrep> <5% gpu usage and i have a *really* weak gpu
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2021-07-11 11:36:54 +0200 <Solid> mc47[m]: I think it does when one uses the unsafe variants
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2021-07-11 14:29:44 +0200 <Nosrep> what the hell happened
2021-07-11 14:29:54 +0200 <Nosrep> also how do multiple windows in the master pane work
2021-07-11 14:29:58 +0200 <Nosrep> in the tall layout
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2021-07-11 14:41:48 +0200 <Solid> there are default keybindings to in-/decrease that
2021-07-11 14:41:57 +0200 <Solid> M-. and M-, I think
2021-07-11 14:43:52 +0200 <Nosrep> no like
2021-07-11 14:43:55 +0200 <Nosrep> how does it work
2021-07-11 14:44:12 +0200 <Nosrep> does it just turn into like
2021-07-11 14:44:28 +0200 <Nosrep> a pseudo-slave window except it's in the position the master window would have been
2021-07-11 14:53:15 +0200 <Solid> the layout just keeps track of how many master windows there are
2021-07-11 14:53:54 +0200 <Solid> the screen rectangle is divided into the master and stack area, and windows are shoved into their respective position depending on how many there are
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