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2021-06-18 00:18:47 +0200tremon(~tremon@217-63-61-89.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: getting boxed in)
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2021-06-18 00:44:08 +0200 <jg> any advice for making steam chat and various pop ups float instead of tile?
2021-06-18 00:44:59 +0200 <geekosaur> generally I just match specific windows in the manageHook; that's what it's for
2021-06-18 00:45:44 +0200 <geekosaur> for dialogs that mark themselves as such there's the XMonad.Hooks.ManageHelpers.isDialog manageHook
2021-06-18 00:46:00 +0200 <jg> as in the same name that is occupied for example the steam friends list would just be friends list?
2021-06-18 00:46:50 +0200 <geekosaur> use xprop to determine the correct resource name and possibly WM_WINDOW_ROLE, rather than trying to match on window title; titles change
2021-06-18 00:49:02 +0200kajzer_(~themainma@user/themainman)
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2021-06-18 00:50:26 +0200 <jg> ill take a look and mess with it, thanks geekosaur
2021-06-18 01:38:41 +0200 <geekosaur> hrm
2021-06-18 01:38:50 +0200geekosaurwonders if liftX is even usable these days
2021-06-18 01:39:25 +0200 <jg> ooh whats that
2021-06-18 01:39:35 +0200 <geekosaur> I have ancient commented-out code I tried to uncomment and it no longer compiles. and as best I can tell, it's impossible to use liftX in a manageHook any more because the types won't line up
2021-06-18 01:40:00 +0200 <geekosaur> you'd have a Query () and need a Query (Endo WindowSet)
2021-06-18 01:40:49 +0200 <geekosaur> this used to work because of how <+> and/or idHook were defined, but generalizing them lost that I think
2021-06-18 01:42:37 +0200 <liskin> lots of managehook primitives are defined in terms of liftX, so liftX surely is usable in that context, somehow
2021-06-18 01:45:55 +0200henninb(~henninb@63.226.174.157)
2021-06-18 01:49:05 +0200 <geekosaur> wow, that's ugly. I got the code working but I had to reimplement doF to do it
2021-06-18 01:50:11 +0200 <geekosaur> boing snd = liftX (spawn ("paplay " ++ sounds ++ "/" ++ snd ++ ".oga") >>
2021-06-18 01:50:11 +0200 <geekosaur> (return . Endo) id)
2021-06-18 01:52:16 +0200 <liskin> you can just do liftX (…) >> mempty
2021-06-18 01:52:29 +0200 <geekosaur> nope
2021-06-18 01:52:41 +0200 <geekosaur> hm, maybe
2021-06-18 01:52:50 +0200 <geekosaur> I kept getting type errors
2021-06-18 01:53:02 +0200 <henninb> does spacingRaw and Border settings differ per Linux distro? I am seeing different behavior between gentoo and arch
2021-06-18 01:53:25 +0200 <geekosaur> no, they should default the same everywhere
2021-06-18 01:53:34 +0200 <henninb> i am using the dzen bar
2021-06-18 01:54:11 +0200 <henninb> thanks geekosaur
2021-06-18 01:54:11 +0200 <liskin> henninb: possibly a different version of xmonad with different sets of bugs?
2021-06-18 01:54:32 +0200 <henninb> i am using stack to ensure i have the same version of ghc.
2021-06-18 01:56:04 +0200 <henninb> liskin I am pretty sure I am on on 0.15, but I will verify as that is a possiblity
2021-06-18 01:56:56 +0200 <jg> henninb if you built with stack and git youre likely on .1699, however if you previously built 0.15 it will read as that
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2021-06-18 02:01:02 +0200henninb(~henninb@63.226.174.157)
2021-06-18 02:01:35 +0200 <henninb> yes, i just confirmed i am on 0.15
2021-06-18 02:02:55 +0200 <jg> hennib, did you build from github? or from repos?
2021-06-18 02:03:34 +0200 <henninb> jg - i built it with `stack build xmonad`
2021-06-18 02:04:04 +0200 <jg> oh im not sure how that would effect it, I had cloned everything and then just did stack init and stack build
2021-06-18 02:04:04 +0200 <henninb> i think it pulls it down from github automatically, but i could be wrong.
2021-06-18 02:04:23 +0200 <jg> if it pulls from github youre on the newest version above .15 even if xmonad --version says .15
2021-06-18 02:04:29 +0200 <henninb> maybe I should do that to get to the latest version.
2021-06-18 02:04:37 +0200 <jg> i would check if you have the statusbar hook
2021-06-18 02:04:47 +0200 <jg> as i do not believe that was in .15 and is pretty dope
2021-06-18 02:05:24 +0200 <henninb> sorry I do now know how to check for the statusbar hook
2021-06-18 02:05:26 +0200 <geekosaur> did it pull from github or from hackage?
2021-06-18 02:06:39 +0200 <henninb> good questino geekosaur, i am not sure
2021-06-18 02:07:12 +0200 <henninb> would i add a setting to my dzenLogHook to get this statusbar hook to work?
2021-06-18 02:07:25 +0200 <geekosaur> I expect if you did `stack build xmonad` it pulled from hackage and you have 0.15
2021-06-18 02:07:36 +0200 <henninb> that makes sense.
2021-06-18 02:07:45 +0200 <jg> sorry for the confusion henninb
2021-06-18 02:07:46 +0200 <henninb> i like jq's idea
2021-06-18 02:08:03 +0200 <henninb> it is good stuff to learn
2021-06-18 02:09:07 +0200 <jg> the latset version has a ton of really neat new features, the team has done a great job, to be honest it's even easier to configure now
2021-06-18 02:10:30 +0200 <henninb> i definately should move to it then. thanks a ton for the guidence
2021-06-18 02:10:48 +0200 <jg> henninb what distro are you on
2021-06-18 02:11:07 +0200 <henninb> i mostly run arch, but i was trying out gentoo.
2021-06-18 02:11:14 +0200 <jg> if youre on arch or a version with gcc 11.1 and you want to use xmobar, you have to set the alsa flag to false or it will not compile
2021-06-18 02:11:25 +0200 <jg> in the stack.yml file
2021-06-18 02:11:46 +0200geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Quit: Leaving)
2021-06-18 02:12:12 +0200 <henninb> i am stuborn and will stick with dzen/conky for my bar.
2021-06-18 02:12:51 +0200 <jg> no worries, then you should not run into much beyond maybe adding X11-1.10 for the extra-deps section
2021-06-18 02:13:02 +0200geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur)
2021-06-18 02:13:03 +0200 <jg> but the compiler will tell you what is missing
2021-06-18 02:14:18 +0200 <henninb> yes, it is pretty good about indicating the missing system packages
2021-06-18 02:15:24 +0200 <henninb> the latest version must be in the master branch as I do not see a tag for anything beyond 0.15.
2021-06-18 02:15:46 +0200 <jg> yes master branch
2021-06-18 02:15:51 +0200 <jg> for xmonad and xmonad-contrib
2021-06-18 02:16:02 +0200 <jg> full screen support is fantastic now
2021-06-18 02:16:13 +0200 <henninb> cool, i will pulling those down.
2021-06-18 02:17:29 +0200 <jg> if you use multiple monitors you might be able to set your bar up with dynamic bars as well, with xmobar it spawns 2 if both monitors are on and turns the other off if im on single
2021-06-18 02:17:43 +0200 <jg> I'm sure it would work with yours if you launch through xmonad.hs
2021-06-18 02:18:49 +0200 <henninb> i can't wait to get a second monitor :)
2021-06-18 02:23:33 +0200 <jg> I love it for productivity
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2021-06-18 05:17:46 +0200 <electr0n> jgart[m]: picom-jonasburg-git
2021-06-18 05:33:13 +0200jg(~jrgiacone@47.153.194.92)
2021-06-18 05:33:58 +0200 <jg> howdy
2021-06-18 05:51:53 +0200 <electr0n> jg: I use picom-jonasburg fork to achieve the rounded corners.
2021-06-18 05:55:23 +0200 <jg> I'm just using the default picom from github, how's that one? did xmonad take much work to get rounded corners, or was it as simple as enabling picom fork
2021-06-18 05:57:23 +0200 <electr0n> as simple as using picom fork.
2021-06-18 05:58:35 +0200 <jg> oh dope thanks
2021-06-18 05:59:00 +0200 <electr0n> do not use a release from that repo. clone the repo and build from source
2021-06-18 06:00:03 +0200 <jg> yea thats what I would do, or aur
2021-06-18 06:01:47 +0200 <electr0n> yea the aur is fine
2021-06-18 06:01:50 +0200 <electr0n> that is how I did it.
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2021-06-18 06:26:43 +0200 <jg> thanks my man!
2021-06-18 06:26:52 +0200 <jg> ill give it a try this weekend
2021-06-18 06:26:55 +0200 <jg> goodnight yall
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2021-06-18 06:58:10 +0200 <electr0n> later.
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2021-06-18 09:19:52 +0200 <electr0n> Solid: the solution I used was to set LG3D as my setWMname for Teamviewer (convo from yesterday, was reading scrollback)
2021-06-18 09:20:34 +0200 <Solid> oh it is just the java stuff again? how disappointing
2021-06-18 09:20:55 +0200 <Solid> but I guess that's proprietary software doing proprietary things :/
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2021-06-18 19:10:02 +0200 <backleet_> is there a trick to keep polybar below other windows? like loweronstart option of xmobar?
2021-06-18 19:12:32 +0200 <liskin> backleet_: checkDock --> doLower might do the trick
2021-06-18 19:12:35 +0200 <liskin> https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.16.999/XMonad-Hooks-ManageDocks.html#v:check…
2021-06-18 19:12:39 +0200 <liskin> https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.16.999/XMonad-Hooks-ManageHelpers.html#v:doL…
2021-06-18 19:13:06 +0200 <liskin> and then there's also something in X.U.Hacks for trayer that could possibly be related and can give you inspiration for more advanced tricks
2021-06-18 19:14:21 +0200 <backleet_> liskin: thanks, been meaning to ask, does smartBorders automatically work (no borders on single window) on xinerama setup in newer version of xmonad or is there different function/call for it?
2021-06-18 19:15:04 +0200 <Solid> it automatically works for _fullscreen_ windows
2021-06-18 19:17:48 +0200 <backleet_> liskin: polybar added wm-restack=generic option (they say it works with xmonad), gotta get it from github. Thanks!
2021-06-18 19:18:27 +0200 <backleet_> Solid: does single window in workspace count as fullscreen window? I think not?
2021-06-18 19:19:15 +0200 <backleet_> Solid: smartBorders works fine on single monitor, but when you have dual screens -> xinerama -> not a single window -> borders around sinle window
2021-06-18 19:21:04 +0200 <fizzie> What counts as unambiguous is configurable. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-NoBorders.html#t:Ambigu…
2021-06-18 19:22:24 +0200 <fizzie> I think the default smartBorders assumption though is that if you have a full-screen window but multiple monitors, it still needs borders, otherwise you don't know which one has focus.
2021-06-18 19:22:48 +0200 <backleet_> fizzie: that's a good point
2021-06-18 19:25:09 +0200 <fizzie> (Those linked constructors are used with the `lessBorders` function; `smartBorders` is the same as `lessBorders Never`.)
2021-06-18 19:27:10 +0200 <backleet_> I will look into it, thanks
2021-06-18 19:28:55 +0200 <Solid> yes that's the main idea; if you have two monitors with one window each it's not quite clear you _want_ them both to not have borders
2021-06-18 19:29:11 +0200 <Solid> because then you either need to remember or you need another way to determine which one has focus
2021-06-18 19:30:03 +0200 <Solid> for fullscreen windows it's assumed that this will perhaps not matter too much and so it's a nice QOL improvement to just remove borders there
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2021-06-18 22:43:57 +0200 <liskin> oof, zurihac's intense :-/
2021-06-18 22:44:20 +0200 <liskin> it's like having 100 IRC channels that you cannot /part
2021-06-18 22:44:59 +0200 <liskin> anyway someone implemented the WindowSwallowing thing using SubLayouts and it ended up being super super simple
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2021-06-18 23:06:06 +0200 <liskin> mc47[m], Solid: btw have you seen the profile of the guy behind that Discord server?
2021-06-18 23:06:10 +0200 <liskin> https://github.com/tejasag
2021-06-18 23:06:28 +0200 <liskin> provided he's actually 13 that's pretty impressive actually :-)
2021-06-18 23:10:20 +0200 <liskin> (I totally approve of the fuck responsibilities go to the beach instead plan though; this ZuriHac in the middle of vacation plan of mine was a terrible idea)
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