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2021-06-03 00:59:57 +0000 <jg> Hiya :) how was everyone's day?
2021-06-03 01:01:24 +0000 <geekosaur> busier than I liked, because I inadvertently slept in over an hour
2021-06-03 01:02:30 +0000liskinwas woken up at 10am by a Tesco delivery and then had to get more sleep in the afternoon :-)
2021-06-03 01:03:09 +0000 <liskin> and now I'm digging deeper into the recompilation rabbit hole instead of going to bed early :-/
2021-06-03 01:03:51 +0000 <jg> ooooh noooo
2021-06-03 01:03:59 +0000 <jg> what are you recompiling ?
2021-06-03 01:04:26 +0000 <jg> geekosaur, you probably needed it :)
2021-06-03 01:04:33 +0000 <jg> your body knows haha
2021-06-03 01:05:04 +0000 <liskin> jg: trying to make ~/.xmonad/build unnecessary
2021-06-03 01:06:08 +0000 <jg> a feat, may I ask why, it really is not difficult to make the build file?
2021-06-03 01:06:23 +0000 <liskin> actually I was just trying to write one sentence of documentation totally unrelated, but I needed to look up something and poof an hour passed and I'm reading into dyre :-)
2021-06-03 01:07:08 +0000 <liskin> well it's not difficult now that we have a guide that tells you to make it
2021-06-03 01:07:15 +0000 <jg> ooh its a reconfiguration library for haskel, how did you stumble upon this
2021-06-03 01:07:25 +0000 <liskin> but we also have like 5 other guides that don't tell you that
2021-06-03 01:07:41 +0000 <liskin> which we should just clean up, obviously
2021-06-03 01:07:58 +0000 <jg> I'd be down to help with that
2021-06-03 01:07:59 +0000 <liskin> but it'd be nice if the build script wasn't necessary in normal setups
2021-06-03 01:09:12 +0000 <jg> i get that, make it slightly easier for new users
2021-06-03 01:09:16 +0000 <jg> or just one less step
2021-06-03 01:10:54 +0000 <liskin> if you want to help cleaning up, here's what I found we have now: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/README.md, https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/INSTALL.md, https://xmonad.org/documentation.html (quick start on the right side), https://xmonad.org/tour.html links to https://xmonad.org/intro.html which doesn't exist
2021-06-03 01:11:11 +0000 <liskin> and also some cabal instructions at https://xmonad.org/download.html
2021-06-03 01:11:15 +0000 <liskin> it's one huge mess :-/
2021-06-03 01:11:30 +0000 <liskin> 03:07:15 <jg> ooh its a reconfiguration library for haskel, how did you stumble upon this
2021-06-03 01:11:35 +0000 <liskin> ^ via taffybar
2021-06-03 01:12:01 +0000 <liskin> sources for the website are at https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web
2021-06-03 01:13:08 +0000 <jg> liskin i googled it: https://github.com/willdonnelly/dyre
2021-06-03 01:13:39 +0000 <liskin> yeah that's it
2021-06-03 01:13:51 +0000 <jg> it looks interesting
2021-06-03 01:14:12 +0000 <jg> i thought you were asking me lmao, i didnt see the via taffeybar
2021-06-03 01:14:33 +0000 <liskin> no I just pasted your line so you know what I'm replying to :-)
2021-06-03 01:14:44 +0000 <jg> i appreciate that! i did not catch it at first
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2021-06-03 01:33:49 +0000 <jg> liskin, to edit I just want to make a fork fix up the text and then send it over correct?
2021-06-03 01:34:21 +0000 <liskin> jg: sort of, yeah
2021-06-03 01:34:55 +0000 <liskin> the README has some instructions how to build the website locally which is good if you want to see what it looks like and get a quick feedback
2021-06-03 01:35:14 +0000 <liskin> I also have a Makefile to make it easier somewhere, been meaning to push it but got distracted with other work
2021-06-03 01:35:31 +0000 <liskin> also, if you make a fork, you can enable github pages in the settings on github
2021-06-03 01:35:50 +0000 <liskin> so then github gives you a url with the rendered site
2021-06-03 01:36:06 +0000 <liskin> and then we can all take a look what your changes look like before we merge them
2021-06-03 01:40:38 +0000 <jg> cool beans, I'll work on it a little this week and weekend!
2021-06-03 01:42:09 +0000 <liskin> ok I'll try to push the Makefile tomorrow to make it easier
2021-06-03 01:42:33 +0000 <liskin> with it you just do "make serve" and then edit the files and it immediately reloads in the browser
2021-06-03 01:42:56 +0000 <liskin> oh and it's almost 3am again
2021-06-03 01:43:10 +0000 <liskin> off I go :-)
2021-06-03 01:44:02 +0000 <jg> good night :)
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2021-06-03 04:16:29 +0000 <a6a45081-2b83> unrelated but how can I control MPRIS2 using CLI?
2021-06-03 04:17:38 +0000 <a6a45081-2b83> I understand it has a dbus-interface
2021-06-03 04:18:27 +0000 <a6a45081-2b83> oh, I can use playerctl
2021-06-03 04:27:36 +0000 <a6a45081-2b83> btw is there a way to add if-else to xmobar?
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2021-06-03 09:38:01 +0000 <a6a45081-2b83> how can I get ScreenId -> ScreenDetail, I wanted to set xmobar size based on ScreenDetail Rectangle
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2021-06-03 12:54:39 +0000 <davve> hi haskell/xmonad gods... I have been googling this but not getting much due to ambiguity, I want to run a command (change keyboard layout with setxkbmap) when focusing different windows.. any ideas/pointers on how to go about it?
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2021-06-03 13:01:15 +0000 <Solid> davve: the logHook runs on every internal state change, so you could write something that checks the focused window and does something based on that
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2021-06-03 13:07:08 +0000 <liskin> davve: you don't want to run setxkbmap though, that's too heavy weight and quite possibly might trigger a refresh of xmonad, you should define two layouts in your /etc/default/keyboard or wherever and just tell X to switch between them
2021-06-03 13:07:25 +0000 <liskin> Not that I know how (on my phone now)
2021-06-03 13:07:45 +0000 <liskin> Surely there's a separate tool that does this for any ewmh compliant wm
2021-06-03 13:08:51 +0000 <davve> Solid: thanks, liskin i actually have a script that toggles between them currently on a hotkey, but i switch windows so frequent that its still a pain point
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2021-06-03 13:19:39 +0000 <Solid> "I should probably not even mention it to you, as we all know what's gonna happen" >> I feel offended :P
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2021-06-03 13:54:52 +0000 <Solid> mh either I'm stupid or `T` is really not suited for testing arbitrary layouts for anything
2021-06-03 13:55:19 +0000 <Solid> we can't even do (l `pureMessage` ...) because an Int is not _really_ a layout
2021-06-03 14:06:31 +0000 <Solid> oh right Choose doesn't even implement pureMessage, so we'd need handleMessage anyways which needs X
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2021-06-03 15:55:10 +0000 <liskin> I vaguely remember Arbitrary T just puts ones or zeroes in all the layouts.
2021-06-03 16:18:46 +0000 <liskin> but you don't really want a StackSet do you? what you want is a binary tree, and then you turn that into a binary tree of (|||) of the same shape
2021-06-03 16:19:03 +0000 <liskin> and you'll need a custom layout to put into that tree that has a description and some hideable state
2021-06-03 16:19:55 +0000 <liskin> not sure if there's an Arbitrary instance for binary trees of Strings (descriptions)
2021-06-03 16:38:42 +0000 <Solid> but tests can't be in X can they?
2021-06-03 16:43:00 +0000 <liskin> oh right
2021-06-03 16:43:11 +0000 <liskin> I'll think about it during lunch
2021-06-03 17:26:20 +0000 <liskin> Solid: I think you may be able to get away with doing runX undefined undefined (handleMessage …)
2021-06-03 17:27:00 +0000 <liskin> it's ugly but we know that the Choose layout doesn't really need X
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2021-06-03 17:31:20 +0000 <liskin> but yeah, not having any clean way to test these monadic parts of layout is quite a shortcoming
2021-06-03 17:31:33 +0000 <liskin> how did no one miss it all those years?
2021-06-03 17:34:59 +0000 <liskin> btw I made my own xmonad-testing yesterday: https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/.xmonad-testing/Makefile
2021-06-03 17:35:52 +0000 <liskin> at this points I should probably really just use nix instead, but I'm too oldschool :-(
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2021-06-03 17:46:24 +0000 <liskin> lyiriyah[m]: looks like you're missing some parentheses around the arguments to Tall
2021-06-03 17:46:46 +0000 <lyiriyah[m]> 🤦
2021-06-03 17:47:01 +0000 <lyiriyah[m]> Thanks -- I'll see if it works
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2021-06-03 17:48:30 +0000 <lyiriyah[m]> It does, thanks so much
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2021-06-03 18:41:17 +0000 <Solid> liskin: uff... thanks though :D
2021-06-03 18:41:34 +0000 <Solid> I'll try to take a look this weekend
2021-06-03 18:41:54 +0000 <Solid> also, you should really just use nix :>
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