| 2021-06-02 00:00:54 +0000 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2021-06-02 00:01:19 +0000 | tv | (~tv@user/tv) |
| 2021-06-02 01:02:00 +0000 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2021-06-02 01:03:25 +0000 | jg | (~jrgiacone@47.149.222.98) |
| 2021-06-02 01:03:38 +0000 | <jg> | liskin how di you get around the X11-1.9.2 error |
| 2021-06-02 01:03:42 +0000 | <jg> | did |
| 2021-06-02 01:03:51 +0000 | <jg> | when updating to todays update |
| 2021-06-02 01:04:20 +0000 | <liskin> | jg: if building by stack you'll need to add X11-1.10 to extra-deps |
| 2021-06-02 01:05:59 +0000 | <jg> | ah lit, thats chill, I was on those lines but did not want to break something :) thanks |
| 2021-06-02 01:06:17 +0000 | <jg> | how was your day today ? |
| 2021-06-02 01:09:38 +0000 | <liskin> | quite productive |
| 2021-06-02 01:11:16 +0000 | <jg> | oh that's great to hear :), so good day overall? |
| 2021-06-02 01:11:29 +0000 | <liskin> | better than many other, yeah |
| 2021-06-02 01:11:37 +0000 | <jg> | im glad! |
| 2021-06-02 01:12:19 +0000 | <liskin> | but I just wasted part of the night trying to understand why Discord keeps ruining power management here |
| 2021-06-02 01:12:33 +0000 | <liskin> | so I won't get enough sleep for tomorrow :-( |
| 2021-06-02 01:12:54 +0000 | <jg> | im sorry :(, yea discord kills my laptop battery |
| 2021-06-02 01:13:26 +0000 | <jg> | I wasted the better part of last night figuring out how to update my mirrors as I kept getting timeouts |
| 2021-06-02 01:28:35 +0000 | <liskin> | oh well, I guess I'll just usbguard block-device the camera and call it a day |
| 2021-06-02 01:29:20 +0000 | <liskin> | bonus is that I don't need to worry about covering the camera ever again |
| 2021-06-02 01:37:38 +0000 | themainman | (~themainma@user/themainman) (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) |
| 2021-06-02 01:38:08 +0000 | themainman | (~themainma@user/themainman) |
| 2021-06-02 01:41:03 +0000 | <jg> | was discord turning the camera/mic on without you asking? |
| 2021-06-02 01:48:08 +0000 | wenzel | (~wenzel@user/wenzel) |
| 2021-06-02 01:57:32 +0000 | <liskin> | Not really, just preventing usb power management |
| 2021-06-02 01:58:01 +0000 | <liskin> | But it probably could turn the camera on if it wanted to |
| 2021-06-02 01:58:27 +0000 | <liskin> | And since it's closed source you never know what happens |
| 2021-06-02 01:58:41 +0000 | <liskin> | Now nothing can use the camera |
| 2021-06-02 01:59:16 +0000 | <liskin> | Anyway, I guess we should mention that X11 version thing somewhere |
| 2021-06-02 01:59:31 +0000 | <liskin> | And fix a bunch of broken links on the website |
| 2021-06-02 02:00:19 +0000 | <liskin> | Bloody hell it's a lot of work :-/ |
| 2021-06-02 02:01:03 +0000 | <liskin> | It's more than 5 years worth of technical debt |
| 2021-06-02 02:01:27 +0000 | <liskin> | 3am here, night, bye |
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| 2021-06-02 04:23:07 +0000 | jg | (~jrgiacone@47.149.222.98) (Quit: Lost terminal) |
| 2021-06-02 06:01:35 +0000 | <Solid> | the best solution would be to not use discord :> |
| 2021-06-02 06:19:28 +0000 | treetip | globe |
| 2021-06-02 06:19:31 +0000 | globe | deebo |
| 2021-06-02 06:31:57 +0000 | wonko | (~wjc@62.115.229.50) |
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| 2021-06-02 07:12:08 +0000 | mc47 | (~yecinem@89.246.239.190) |
| 2021-06-02 07:29:33 +0000 | <mc47> | liskin, is the stack.yaml in xmonad-contrib not supposed to work right now? |
| 2021-06-02 07:31:42 +0000 | <Solid> | the x11 version is definitely just a mistake |
| 2021-06-02 07:31:49 +0000 | <Solid> | but even then the xmonad version will cause problems |
| 2021-06-02 07:33:59 +0000 | <mc47> | yeah I can't build it, I tried removing the x11 from extra-deps and it still can't build |
| 2021-06-02 07:34:12 +0000 | <mc47> | which makes sense, since xmonad-0.17 doesn't exist |
| 2021-06-02 07:34:26 +0000 | <mc47> | but how are we supposed to build till we make the release? |
| 2021-06-02 07:35:00 +0000 | <mc47> | btw the activity these couple of days was quite refreshing \o/ |
| 2021-06-02 07:35:06 +0000 | <Solid> | indeed :) |
| 2021-06-02 07:35:20 +0000 | <Solid> | what works for me is entering the correct x11 version (1.10) and pointing it to a local copy of xmonad $HEAD |
| 2021-06-02 07:37:06 +0000 | <mc47> | I'm a stack newbie, you're doing the latter by specifying a path and a commit? |
| 2021-06-02 07:37:14 +0000 | <mc47> | or do you just symlink xmonad in the root directory? |
| 2021-06-02 07:38:08 +0000 | <Solid> | I just specify a path (and whatever commit that repo is on will be chosen) like `- /home/slot/repos/xmonad/xmonad-slotThe` |
| 2021-06-02 07:39:17 +0000 | <Solid> | I guess this part sort of makes sense because at this point one can't build xmonad-contrib $HEAD and xmonad-0.15 together (due to the ExtensibleConfig changes) |
| 2021-06-02 07:39:31 +0000 | <Solid> | so if you're building one git version you have to build the other one as well anyways |
| 2021-06-02 07:44:36 +0000 | gruntsplatter | (~jason@103.2.198.78) |
| 2021-06-02 07:44:37 +0000 | <mc47> | that does make sense |
| 2021-06-02 07:44:44 +0000 | <mc47> | thanks! |
| 2021-06-02 07:46:18 +0000 | <gruntsplatter> | when I use xmonad and I move my mouse to where the gaps are my mouse jumps across the screen does anyone els have this issue with xmonad |
| 2021-06-02 07:46:34 +0000 | <gruntsplatter> | is there a fix ? |
| 2021-06-02 08:12:22 +0000 | themainman | (~themainma@user/themainman) (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) |
| 2021-06-02 08:14:01 +0000 | themainman | (~themainma@user/themainman) |
| 2021-06-02 08:16:41 +0000 | <Solid> | oh wow there are _a lot_ of matrix nicks here now |
| 2021-06-02 08:16:47 +0000 | <Solid> | did some other channel get bridged? |
| 2021-06-02 08:19:47 +0000 | <mc47> | yes, the one that wasn't bridged |
| 2021-06-02 08:19:57 +0000 | <mc47> | the #xmonad channel |
| 2021-06-02 08:20:12 +0000 | <Solid> | that's awesome |
| 2021-06-02 08:20:25 +0000 | <Solid> | might want to add that one to the website as well then |
| 2021-06-02 08:36:56 +0000 | gruntsplatter | (~jason@103.2.198.78) (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) |
| 2021-06-02 08:55:40 +0000 | <liskin> | Solid: maybe I should bridge the one Discord server I really want to be in to Matrix or something, yeah. :-/ |
| 2021-06-02 08:57:01 +0000 | <Solid> | liskin: yeah that's how I've done it with one server a few friends of mine insist on using (I'm bridging directly to IRC though) |
| 2021-06-02 08:57:14 +0000 | <Solid> | the bridge itself is pretty bad, but improving it would involve me interacting with discord |
| 2021-06-02 08:57:17 +0000 | <Solid> | and also writing js |
| 2021-06-02 08:57:19 +0000 | <Solid> | so no :) |
| 2021-06-02 10:11:47 +0000 | benin4 | (~benin@183.82.205.186) |
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| 2021-06-02 10:12:30 +0000 | benin4 | benin |
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| 2021-06-02 11:43:21 +0000 | hpd[m] | (~hpdhpdeif@2001:470:69fc:105::230) () |
| 2021-06-02 11:57:48 +0000 | MrElendig | (~Urist@user/mrelendig) |
| 2021-06-02 12:16:41 +0000 | Guest73 | (~Guest73@124.40.244.150) |
| 2021-06-02 12:18:06 +0000 | benin8 | (~benin@106.198.94.140) |
| 2021-06-02 12:18:15 +0000 | <Guest73> | When using xmonad-git how can I look at documentation? Only in source or some place on hackage? |
| 2021-06-02 12:19:55 +0000 | benin | (~benin@183.82.205.186) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
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| 2021-06-02 12:27:49 +0000 | <Guest73> | Any1 |
| 2021-06-02 12:28:48 +0000 | <liskin> | Guest73: you can build the html docs locally via cabal haddock or stack haddock, but it's not available anywhere on the web right now |
| 2021-06-02 12:29:08 +0000 | <liskin> | it's somewhere in my todo list though |
| 2021-06-02 12:30:30 +0000 | <Guest73> | Thanks. I will stick to code. No idea about cabal and stack. Not a Haskell programmer. Just a xmonad user. |
| 2021-06-02 12:32:33 +0000 | <liskin> | Oh you're installing from distro? Might be a good idea to ask the maintainers to make a doc package as well. |
| 2021-06-02 12:32:59 +0000 | <liskin> | In Debian, there is a docs package. |
| 2021-06-02 12:33:06 +0000 | benin | (benin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/benin) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2021-06-02 12:33:08 +0000 | <liskin> | (But there's no -git package :-/) |
| 2021-06-02 12:33:36 +0000 | <liskin> | Possibly there already is a doc package for your distro? |
| 2021-06-02 12:36:36 +0000 | Guest73 | (~Guest73@124.40.244.150) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2021-06-02 12:47:04 +0000 | benin | (~benin@183.82.205.186) |
| 2021-06-02 12:55:06 +0000 | <Solid> | layouts are so weird |
| 2021-06-02 12:56:37 +0000 | <Solid> | liskin: everything you said makes sense and yet the current solution for #281 still works, even with decorated layouts |
| 2021-06-02 12:57:13 +0000 | <Solid> | I think if the check the description on both sides every time we can avoid not hiding the layouts though |
| 2021-06-02 13:02:47 +0000 | <liskin> | that's really weird :-/ |
| 2021-06-02 13:05:51 +0000 | <liskin> | I think I might write a prop test or something |
| 2021-06-02 13:06:45 +0000 | <liskin> | otherwise I'd have to rebase everything onto current masters and that might be more trouble, as I have some custom inspection instances for NewSelect and shit |
| 2021-06-02 13:28:07 +0000 | <liskin> | but then I'd be tempted to clean up the tests and use hspec, so I'll just write a new xmonad config instead |
| 2021-06-02 13:32:33 +0000 | <Solid> | hah |
| 2021-06-02 13:33:25 +0000 | themainman | (~themainma@user/themainman) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2021-06-02 13:34:00 +0000 | themainman | (~themainma@user/themainman) |
| 2021-06-02 13:42:46 +0000 | benin | (~benin@183.82.205.186) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2021-06-02 13:45:14 +0000 | <liskin> | okay I'm not crazy |
| 2021-06-02 13:45:33 +0000 | <liskin> | I can reproduce dangling deco with main = xmonad bluetileConfig |
| 2021-06-02 13:47:28 +0000 | <liskin> | open two terminals, mod-f to switch to fullscreen, mod-d to switch to tile2, now through the gap they can be seen and stay there after closing both terminals |
| 2021-06-02 13:48:05 +0000 | <liskin> | that is, at 246600f70d6365c612ea9bfd31efd50c50a6c861, not at 0084a1af5c08fa3015af5aa2fd45d0c165d86a67 |
| 2021-06-02 14:07:36 +0000 | <Solid> | huh interesting |
| 2021-06-02 14:07:41 +0000 | <Solid> | okay so that clears that up |
| 2021-06-02 14:10:00 +0000 | benin | (~benin@183.82.205.186) |
| 2021-06-02 14:11:03 +0000 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com) |
| 2021-06-02 14:11:47 +0000 | <liskin> | Solid: I pushed a fixup |
| 2021-06-02 14:11:47 +0000 | <Solid> | does 0084a1af5c08fa3015af5aa2fd45d0c165d86a67 fix this though? because it _should_ but I'm not sure of anything anymore right now :/ |
| 2021-06-02 14:12:01 +0000 | <liskin> | 0084a1af5c08fa3015af5aa2fd45d0c165d86a67 does fix it indeed |
| 2021-06-02 14:12:34 +0000 | <liskin> | as I said, whenever you flip CL/CR outside of choose, some Hide messages might not get sent |
| 2021-06-02 14:12:47 +0000 | <liskin> | or some extra Hides may get sent |
| 2021-06-02 14:12:54 +0000 | <liskin> | which is what the fixup deals with |
| 2021-06-02 14:13:17 +0000 | <Solid> | liskin: would that fixup not run into the same problems regarding having (CL, CL) and (CR, CR) as the first version? |
| 2021-06-02 14:13:22 +0000 | <liskin> | I still don't understand what those flips were meant to do |
| 2021-06-02 14:13:40 +0000 | <liskin> | it's not (CL, CL) et al that is the problem |
| 2021-06-02 14:14:06 +0000 | <liskin> | the problem is when you switch to another layout without sending Hide to the old one |
| 2021-06-02 14:14:34 +0000 | <liskin> | the fixup just stops a possible flicker when JumpToLayout is asked to switch to the current layout |
| 2021-06-02 14:16:27 +0000 | <Solid> | ooooh okay |
| 2021-06-02 14:17:17 +0000 | <liskin> | actually, I haven't tested the fixup |
| 2021-06-02 14:17:32 +0000 | <liskin> | it's entirely possible it breaks it entirely |
| 2021-06-02 14:18:28 +0000 | <liskin> | oh no it doesn't :-) |
| 2021-06-02 14:18:46 +0000 | <Solid> | yeah can confirm it also works for me |
| 2021-06-02 14:19:39 +0000 | <liskin> | anyway what I had in mind that the JumpToLayout handler can very likely be simplified further, if we're willing to risk calling handleMessage on both sides at all times |
| 2021-06-02 14:27:29 +0000 | <liskin> | also, if the tree of layouts isn't exactly the right fold of a list, jumping to the layouts in the right subtree doesn't work :-/ |
| 2021-06-02 14:28:42 +0000 | <liskin> | with https://store.lisk.in/tmp/2021-06-02-152751_704x446_scrot.png I can't switch to Fullscreen |
| 2021-06-02 14:33:28 +0000 | <Solid> | huh interesting |
| 2021-06-02 14:33:33 +0000 | <Solid> | this this work originally? |
| 2021-06-02 14:33:39 +0000 | <Solid> | s/this/did/ |
| 2021-06-02 14:34:36 +0000 | <liskin> | yeah I think before 246600f70d6365c612ea9bfd31efd50c50a6c861 handling of JumpToLayout would return Nothing when the layout wasn't there |
| 2021-06-02 14:34:46 +0000 | <liskin> | and the logic relies on that |
| 2021-06-02 14:35:46 +0000 | <liskin> | it's a bit weird though, hm, choose also returns Nothing sometimes |
| 2021-06-02 14:36:48 +0000 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) |
| 2021-06-02 14:37:17 +0000 | <liskin> | but those nested cases might force a switch of CL to CR or the other way around even if the layout wasn't found, apparently |
| 2021-06-02 14:41:50 +0000 | <liskin> | Solid: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/281/files/0084a1af5c08fa3015af5aa2fd45d0c165d86a67..28ac3178… |
| 2021-06-02 14:41:57 +0000 | <liskin> | oh not this one |
| 2021-06-02 14:42:06 +0000 | <liskin> | this: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/281/commits/3e05edfaf7dd5800ed0affcde2f7a400aa4e8abe |
| 2021-06-02 14:42:42 +0000 | <liskin> | but we should probably really write the prop test after all, this is too brittle |
| 2021-06-02 14:44:14 +0000 | <Solid> | liskin: oh that's really neat |
| 2021-06-02 14:44:56 +0000 | <Solid> | is there infrastructure for message handling tests? |
| 2021-06-02 14:45:28 +0000 | <liskin> | do you need more than just a call to handleMessage? |
| 2021-06-02 14:46:12 +0000 | <Solid> | mh... probably not |
| 2021-06-02 14:46:17 +0000 | <liskin> | the only possibly difficult bit is that type T uses Int as layout, but here you'll need something with both description and state to check that Hide was delivered |
| 2021-06-02 14:46:31 +0000 | <liskin> | might just do a bit of bit arithmetic though |
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| 2021-06-02 19:39:31 +0000 | Guest73 | (~Guest73@124.40.244.150) |
| 2021-06-02 19:41:29 +0000 | <Guest73> | Is there a way to add description to key bindings? I am thinking of generating help automatically. |
| 2021-06-02 19:43:35 +0000 | <liskin> | Guest73: reminds me of https://old.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/nhu6uu/keybindings_generator/ |
| 2021-06-02 19:43:55 +0000 | <liskin> | also https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Util-NamedActions.html |
| 2021-06-02 19:52:51 +0000 | <Guest73> | I liked this part: An additional step may be to have them displayed in a picture like those in the xmonad documentation |
| 2021-06-02 19:56:22 +0000 | <liskin> | we have an open issue that mentions something similar: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/287 |
| 2021-06-02 19:56:51 +0000 | <liskin> | (and I can almost guarantee I will not work on this myself) |
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| 2021-06-02 20:43:42 +0000 | lyiriyah[m] | (~lyiriyahm@2001:470:69fc:105::cc0) |
| 2021-06-02 20:51:58 +0000 | <lyiriyah[m]> | Hi -- trying to figure out how to integrate IndependentScreens and PerWorkspace. IndependentScreens documentation doesn't really tell me anything. If anyone could should some insight that'd be great |
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| 2021-06-02 20:53:02 +0000 | lyiriyah52 | (~lyiriyah@host109-157-157-23.range109-157.btcentralplus.com) () |
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| 2021-06-02 21:01:58 +0000 | <lyiriyah[m]> | * Hi -- trying to figure out how to integrate IndependentScreens and PerWorkspace. IndependentScreens documentation doesn't really tell me anything. If anyone could share some insight that'd be great |
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| 2021-06-02 21:27:00 +0000 | <liskin> | lyiriyah[m]: you can use https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-IndependentScreens.html… to obtain a WorkspaceId to use in PerWorkspace |
| 2021-06-02 21:28:24 +0000 | <lyiriyah[m]> | <liskin "lyiriyah: you can use https://ha"> Ok, but what is ScreenId? |
| 2021-06-02 21:29:10 +0000 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com) |
| 2021-06-02 21:29:18 +0000 | <liskin> | lyiriyah[m]: you can just use a number, 0 being the primary screen, 1 being the next (in whatever order xinerama reports it to xmonad) |
| 2021-06-02 21:29:27 +0000 | <lyiriyah[m]> | Oh I see |
| 2021-06-02 21:29:30 +0000 | <lyiriyah[m]> | Thanks |
| 2021-06-02 21:30:52 +0000 | <lyiriyah[m]> | How would I marshall more than one workspace? |
| 2021-06-02 21:34:49 +0000 | <liskin> | *Main XMonad.Layout.IndependentScreens> map (marshall 1) ["one", "two"] |
| 2021-06-02 21:34:51 +0000 | <liskin> | ["1_one","1_two"] |
| 2021-06-02 21:35:17 +0000 | <lyiriyah[m]> | Ah, thanks so much. I'll give it a go |
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| 2021-06-02 21:50:24 +0000 | habib | (~habib@89.38.69.198) |
| 2021-06-02 21:50:35 +0000 | habib | (~habib@89.38.69.198) (Quit: habib) |
| 2021-06-02 22:09:36 +0000 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) (Quit: :wq) |
| 2021-06-02 22:11:30 +0000 | <liskin> | geekosaur: what has to come from somewhere? |
| 2021-06-02 22:12:07 +0000 | <liskin> | (we can continue the discussion there, just didn't want to add unnecessary noise by asking for this clarification) |
| 2021-06-02 22:12:16 +0000 | <geekosaur> | GHC_ENVIRONMENT and friends |
| 2021-06-02 22:12:34 +0000 | <liskin> | that would come from the build of xmonad library itself |
| 2021-06-02 22:12:37 +0000 | <geekosaur> | you have to have somewhere to capture them from, so at least once have to build with cabal or stack |
| 2021-06-02 22:13:08 +0000 | <liskin> | I kind of assumed cabal/stack set them when invoking ghc to build |
| 2021-06-02 22:13:11 +0000 | <geekosaur> | oh. that's not certain to be the same as the one we need, though, especially if there are added deps |
| 2021-06-02 22:13:26 +0000 | <liskin> | yes, that is a very legitimate concern |
| 2021-06-02 22:14:37 +0000 | de-vri-es | (~de-vri-es@voyager.de-vri.es) (Quit: Bathrobe!) |
| 2021-06-02 22:15:05 +0000 | de-vri-es | (~de-vri-es@voyager.de-vri.es) |
| 2021-06-02 22:22:16 +0000 | <geekosaur> | come to think of it, when cabal or stack is building xmonad-contrib, it's doing so under /tmp |
| 2021-06-02 22:22:35 +0000 | <geekosaur> | so the environment you capture potentially won't include it or xmonad |
| 2021-06-02 22:23:30 +0000 | <liskin> | I thought it'd point somewhere in ~/.stack/snapshots or ./.stack-work/… |
| 2021-06-02 22:23:53 +0000 | <liskin> | anyway, I'm leaning towards not even trying this |
| 2021-06-02 22:24:22 +0000 | <geekosaur> | it may point under there but it's a PATH-like variable so it may point separately to a bunch of different package dirs |
| 2021-06-02 22:24:23 +0000 | <liskin> | if cabal --package-env ~/.xmonad/ works, then cabal is a non-issue |
| 2021-06-02 22:24:38 +0000 | <geekosaur> | only way to know is to try it and then hope they don''t change it |
| 2021-06-02 22:24:50 +0000 | <geekosaur> | oh, I know that works, it was the first thing I tried |
| 2021-06-02 22:25:05 +0000 | <geekosaur> | think I erased my setup afterward though |
| 2021-06-02 22:25:26 +0000 | <liskin> | and for stack I think a more explicit approach like configuring the stack.yaml path or detecting stack.yaml at known locations seems like a better approach |
| 2021-06-02 22:25:28 +0000 | <geekosaur> | yeh, it's gone now |
| 2021-06-02 22:25:37 +0000 | <liskin> | I'm a bit confused about --package-env though |
| 2021-06-02 22:25:45 +0000 | <liskin> | it sounds like such a perfect solutions |
| 2021-06-02 22:25:51 +0000 | <liskin> | why isn't it recommended everywhere? |
| 2021-06-02 22:26:30 +0000 | <geekosaur> | because most people work in terms of projects, not quasi-global installs |
| 2021-06-02 22:26:58 +0000 | <geekosaur> | --package-env is what replaces global installs with cabal; for stack it's the global environment that replaces it |
| 2021-06-02 22:27:22 +0000 | <liskin> | are you sure most people do that? |
| 2021-06-02 22:27:40 +0000 | <geekosaur> | reasonably certain, yes |
| 2021-06-02 22:27:43 +0000 | <liskin> | I thought most people just have a single xmonad.hs |
| 2021-06-02 22:28:18 +0000 | <geekosaur> | oh, I was talkingg in general. I have no idea what most xmonad users do at this point |
| 2021-06-02 22:28:21 +0000 | <liskin> | I mean, I consider myself an advanced xmonad "user" :-), and I had a single xmonad.hs until this year |
| 2021-06-02 22:28:28 +0000 | <geekosaur> | exceot get confused at ancient instructions :) |
| 2021-06-02 22:28:45 +0000 | <liskin> | oh |
| 2021-06-02 22:29:00 +0000 | <liskin> | I meant why isn't it recommended for installing xmonad |
| 2021-06-02 22:29:08 +0000 | <geekosaur> | actually I think most xmonad users install via system package manager and the really global env is still there |
| 2021-06-02 22:29:44 +0000 | <liskin> | is it just that we haven't updated our instructions since cabal went v2 and 3rd party guides are a mess in general? |
| 2021-06-02 22:30:26 +0000 | <liskin> | because if cabal install --package-env ~/.xmonad/ works just as well as the old v1 cabal install, then we should just recommend that |
| 2021-06-02 22:30:38 +0000 | <geekosaur> | pretty much |
| 2021-06-02 22:30:42 +0000 | <liskin> | oh, good point about package managers |
| 2021-06-02 22:31:07 +0000 | <liskin> | arch people can probably even get the git version via their package manager |
| 2021-06-02 22:31:26 +0000 | <liskin> | and as long as they manage to not run into dynamic linking breakage, they might live in blissful ignorance of cabal/stack |
| 2021-06-02 22:32:06 +0000 | <liskin> | come to think of it, I should probably be qualified enough to provide builds of git xmonad for ubuntu and debian |
| 2021-06-02 22:32:20 +0000 | <liskin> | brilliant, more things to put on my todo list :-D |
| 2021-06-02 22:34:08 +0000 | <geekosaur> | evidently they patch xmonad to include -dynamic in its build command |
| 2021-06-02 22:35:14 +0000 | wonko | (~wjc@62.115.229.50) (Quit: See You Space Cowboy..) |
| 2021-06-02 22:36:54 +0000 | <liskin> | understandably |
| 2021-06-02 23:00:41 +0000 | benin0 | (~benin@183.82.205.186) |
| 2021-06-02 23:00:54 +0000 | dmwit | (~dmwit@pool-96-255-233-247.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
