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| 2021-04-29 10:23:20 +0000 | <Solid> | Liskni_si: r.e. #76: shouldn't we rather bracket the two peeks in getClassHint instead of the call to xGetClassHint? |
| 2021-04-29 10:23:37 +0000 | <Solid> | we can't really do any meaningful cleanup with just the status |
| 2021-04-29 10:23:53 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | Solid: xGetClassHint is the one that allocates the two strings |
| 2021-04-29 10:34:56 +0000 | <Solid> | but if we bracket that and an exception occurs surely it's not safe to peek to get the pointers to res_{name,class}? |
| 2021-04-29 10:36:38 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | not sure I follow |
| 2021-04-29 10:36:57 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | the bracket is there so that if an exception occurs, we don't forget the xFrees |
| 2021-04-29 10:39:05 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | s/is there/would be there/ :-) |
| 2021-04-29 10:40:21 +0000 | <Solid> | but if we put `xGetClassHint` in the acquire then the release only gets a `Status`; we only get the pointers after calling `#{peek ...}` |
| 2021-04-29 10:42:07 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | oh, I see |
| 2021-04-29 10:43:05 +0000 | cfricke | (~cfricke@unaffiliated/cfricke) (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) |
| 2021-04-29 10:43:15 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | but I believe it is indeed safe to peek at the pointers, as long as you're inside the alloca XClassHint bracket |
| 2021-04-29 10:43:37 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | although it is a bit weird to peek at them twice |
| 2021-04-29 10:49:31 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | it's a shame there's no alloca that acts like calloc :-/ |
| 2021-04-29 10:50:02 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | turns out it's not really safe to peek without also making sure the pointers are initialized to NULL |
| 2021-04-29 10:50:24 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | this will end up being ugly code :-/ |
| 2021-04-29 10:51:49 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | it's entirely possible the rest of X11 (the haskell lib) is just as unsafe with exceptions, and in that case it may be best to just give up :-) |
| 2021-04-29 10:52:53 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | it's mostly async exceptions we're talking about here, xGetClassHint or peek won't raise anything meaningful really |
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| 2021-04-29 11:25:57 +0000 | notis | (~notis@85.203.44.60) |
| 2021-04-29 11:38:44 +0000 | <mc47[m]> | Solid did you think about including your TI datatype in the TopicSpace module? I think they're pretty neat |
| 2021-04-29 11:42:30 +0000 | <mc47[m]> | DynamicProjects was cool but it messes up my workspaces, and I'm not sure if that's the expected behavior |
| 2021-04-29 11:47:31 +0000 | cfricke | (~cfricke@unaffiliated/cfricke) |
| 2021-04-29 11:56:10 +0000 | <Solid> | mc47[m]: I think I stole that particular definition from byorgey's config so I'd feel a bit weird about just adding it :P |
| 2021-04-29 11:57:09 +0000 | <Solid> | Liskni_si: I see similar xFree usage throughout, but I still feel some self-destructive urge to get this right |
| 2021-04-29 11:57:26 +0000 | <mc47[m]> | Oh, byorgey wrote DynamicProjects and it goes somewhere in that direction... |
| 2021-04-29 11:59:17 +0000 | <Solid> | wrote and uses are two different things sometimes :> |
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| 2021-04-29 12:55:00 +0000 | <mc47> | Solid yep he doesn't use it apparently... I promised myself I won't spend too much on it, but it's getting harder to keep that promise :D |
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| 2021-04-29 12:55:14 +0000 | <Solid> | :) |
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| 2021-04-29 16:15:05 +0000 | <Solid> | oh you merged the x11 pr already |
| 2021-04-29 16:15:38 +0000 | <Solid> | that means I'm saved from self destructive tendencies |
| 2021-04-29 16:15:40 +0000 | <Solid> | yay :D |
| 2021-04-29 16:20:09 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | I didn't realize you actually intended to act upon those tendencies in that same PR |
| 2021-04-29 16:20:16 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | but it's for the best I guess :-) |
| 2021-04-29 16:20:29 +0000 | <Solid> | :) |
| 2021-04-29 16:20:38 +0000 | <Solid> | tbh I should really lose my fear of low-level stuff |
| 2021-04-29 16:20:45 +0000 | <Solid> | maybe I'll revisit this at some poin |
| 2021-04-29 16:25:33 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | that fear is understandable, as the type system no longer has your back there |
| 2021-04-29 16:26:02 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | I wonder if running GHC-compiled code under valgrind prints a lot of noise or not |
| 2021-04-29 16:27:05 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | and then there's all that modern stuff like fuzzers and address space whatever and stack canaries and whatnot that wasn't available when I was young enough to do low-level stuff on a daily basis |
| 2021-04-29 16:27:26 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | but it's not as solid as a type system :-) |
| 2021-04-29 16:27:41 +0000 | <geekosaur> | +RTS -V0 |
| 2021-04-29 16:28:27 +0000 | cfricke | (~cfricke@unaffiliated/cfricke) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-04-29 16:28:42 +0000 | <geekosaur> | turns off the master timer, which reduces the noise considerably |
| 2021-04-29 16:29:55 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I do wonder what valgrind would make of the 2-stage allocator though |
| 2021-04-29 16:30:06 +0000 | <geekosaur> | memcheck's probably a lost cause |
| 2021-04-29 16:33:19 +0000 | <geekosaur> | sadly there's no RTS option to select the old memory allocator, you need a ghc built with it |
| 2021-04-29 16:33:44 +0000 | <Liskni_si> | I must admit I have very little idea what you're talking about :-) |
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| 2021-04-29 16:40:03 +0000 | <Solid> | here's to hoping that I'll pick some of this stuff up through osmosis as time goes on =) |
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