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2021-02-07 14:11:18 +0100 <geekosaur> wheeeee
2021-02-07 14:12:11 +0100 <geekosaur> today I try to get xmonad running on the new laptop. got to blow most of an hour just getting to the point of starting; suspect I won't be finishing
2021-02-07 14:12:31 +0100 <geekosaur> (and then there's changing everything else for new cabal but that's another story)
2021-02-07 14:14:06 +0100 <geekosaur> also discovering random bugs in other things while going, which will be "fun" if they manifest when I go to integrate xmonad with MATE
2021-02-07 14:15:48 +0100 <Liskni_si> :-)
2021-02-07 14:16:11 +0100Liskni_siis happy to not be the only one who keeps discovering everything is totally broken all the time
2021-02-07 14:16:56 +0100 <mc47> "fun" :D
2021-02-07 14:16:58 +0100geekosaur*still* needs to make "human fuzzer" Tshirts
2021-02-07 14:18:45 +0100 <geekosaur> like, when I start the session there's no window manager. at least there's a panel, so I can pop a terminal and run marco (until I get xmonad up, of course)
2021-02-07 14:20:20 +0100 <geekosaur> hm, come to think of it the wm setting is part of the saved session, which means it's failing to start xmonad :)
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2021-02-07 15:36:44 +0100 <Solid> I think I would go insane if I discoreved as many bugs as you people :D
2021-02-07 15:37:14 +0100 <geekosaur> heh. I have an xmonad that will load, but no ghc yet so it won't recompile. to say nothing of updating to current git (which I have only just installed — git, that is)
2021-02-07 15:37:46 +0100 <Solid> that's progress at least
2021-02-07 15:38:21 +0100 <geekosaur> getting a machine from initial install to usability with xmonad takes a fair amount of work :/
2021-02-07 15:38:54 +0100 <geekosaur> well, granted, I'm restoring an environment that's rather more than just xmonad, plus my xmonad setup is customized
2021-02-07 15:40:19 +0100 <Liskni_si> Solid: well, we *did* get insane.
2021-02-07 15:40:37 +0100 <Solid> hah
2021-02-07 15:56:42 +0100geekosaur(ac3a8c42@172.58.140.66) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2021-02-07 15:58:47 +0100 <mc47> sooooo.... I've created another module like X.H.DynamicBars that uses the new abstraction in #443, with some more changes in X.H.DynamicLog (mainly what we discussed yesterday)
2021-02-07 15:59:05 +0100 <mc47> I'm not sure how to advance with this
2021-02-07 15:59:28 +0100 <mc47> should I wait for #443 to be sorted out, or add to the same PR, or open another Draft PR?
2021-02-07 16:05:51 +0100geekosaur(ac3a8c42@172.58.140.66)
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2021-02-07 16:06:53 +0100jchia(~jchia@218.80.72.201)
2021-02-07 16:19:59 +0100 <Liskni_si> I'd say new PR is best, #443 is full of comments and so on and probably almost ready to merge (I haven't seen the last round of changes but it's something I'm trying to get to soon)
2021-02-07 16:20:58 +0100 <geekosaur> I'd second a new PR
2021-02-07 16:36:15 +0100 <mc47> A new PR it is
2021-02-07 16:36:22 +0100 <mc47> I'll cleanup a bit and submit it
2021-02-07 16:36:23 +0100 <mc47> thanks!
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2021-02-07 18:19:35 +0100 <endiruna> hello. how can I bind a key to go to next non empty workspace ?
2021-02-07 18:20:07 +0100 <endiruna> i am looking into CycleWS but I did not manage
2021-02-07 18:27:13 +0100 <Liskni_si> endiruna: I'd expect "doTo Next NonEmptyWS" to do this, does it not work
2021-02-07 18:27:15 +0100 <Liskni_si> ?
2021-02-07 18:35:23 +0100geekosaur(82650c7a@130.101.12.122)
2021-02-07 18:37:12 +0100 <endiruna> doTo?
2021-02-07 18:37:20 +0100 <endiruna> ok
2021-02-07 18:39:09 +0100 <geekosaur> goTo, I think. but what did you try and what happened instead of what you wanted?
2021-02-07 18:39:12 +0100 <Liskni_si> oh, moveTo
2021-02-07 18:39:37 +0100 <Liskni_si> hands are faster than brains these days :-)
2021-02-07 18:40:04 +0100 <geekosaur> actually moveTo, yeh
2021-02-07 18:40:25 +0100 <geekosaur> which sounds wrong but the action you might think of for "move" is actually called "shift" in xmonad
2021-02-07 18:41:03 +0100geekosaurhad to dig out his own usage of it to see what the correct one was
2021-02-07 19:26:19 +0100 <geekosaur> aaaand I just tripped over a new zsh bug (add a nonexistent dir to $PATH and the whole PATH var gets nuked)
2021-02-07 19:31:33 +0100 <geekosaur> …I have a dep on dbus, which causes it to build half of Hackage
2021-02-07 19:31:42 +0100 <geekosaur> (including a lens dependency, woo)
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2021-02-07 19:41:46 +0100 <geekosaur> does this look familiar to anyone?
2021-02-07 19:41:51 +0100 <geekosaur> X11-1.9.2: library-dirs: @X_LIBRARIES@ is a relative path which makes no sense
2021-02-07 19:41:52 +0100 <geekosaur> (as there is nothing for it to be relative to). You can make paths relative to
2021-02-07 19:41:52 +0100 <geekosaur> the package database itself by using ${pkgroot}. (use --force to override)
2021-02-07 19:42:29 +0100 <geekosaur> oh, probably needs aclocal
2021-02-07 19:44:37 +0100 <geekosaur> it's not quite load and go. have to track this for my -testing updates
2021-02-07 19:53:09 +0100werneta(~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
2021-02-07 19:57:46 +0100 <geekosaur> mm, autoreconf is not enough to get X11 to build (actually install) without an error about X_LIBRRARIES as above
2021-02-07 20:03:36 +0100 <geekosaur> sigh, it doesn't fail with a v1-style configure, which makes it a Cabal issue of some kind
2021-02-07 20:15:16 +0100geekosaurfiles a couple of issues, the second being a minor doc nit
2021-02-07 20:18:19 +0100 <geekosaur> well, apparently I'm not doing this with cabal v2, so not updating those instructions until we have an X11 that builds with v2
2021-02-07 20:23:15 +0100 <geekosaur> oddly, v1-install complains about data-default, but once that's manually installed it installs a bunch of other deps itself
2021-02-07 20:23:23 +0100 <geekosaur> sounds like we missed one somewhere
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2021-02-07 20:24:39 +0100 <geekosaur> oh, never mind, ran it in the wrong directory. oddly, it's happoy to v1-install a v2-package
2021-02-07 20:24:46 +0100 <geekosaur> (which I will regret, probably)
2021-02-07 20:27:17 +0100werneta(~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
2021-02-07 20:30:12 +0100 <Solid> :)
2021-02-07 20:32:06 +0100 <Solid> I see there'll be at least 20 new bug reports in various free softare projects over the next few days :>
2021-02-07 20:33:36 +0100 <Liskni_si> makes one wonder how all the other people install it :-)
2021-02-07 20:38:07 +0100 <geekosaur> package manager :)
2021-02-07 20:38:42 +0100 <geekosaur> install instructions for X11 pkg don't work with cabal 3, for that matter, since that uses new-install by default
2021-02-07 20:39:01 +0100 <geekosaur> which will then faill the way I just reported
2021-02-07 20:40:06 +0100 <geekosaur> so anyway I am now up and running (sortamaybe: it runs but is not integrated yet, I started it manually) using v1-install
2021-02-07 20:40:18 +0100 <geekosaur> need a build script and proper MATE integration
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2021-02-07 20:56:05 +0100 <geekosaur> done, I think. won't be tested until tomorrow though
2021-02-07 21:03:26 +0100 <geekosaur> mod-q works, at least
2021-02-07 21:08:10 +0100 <Liskni_si> project status: "the most senior maintainer still around can almost get it built and running in a day" :-D
2021-02-07 21:09:19 +0100 <geekosaur> heh
2021-02-07 21:09:54 +0100 <geekosaur> new cabal is going to be an issue, though :/
2021-02-07 21:10:14 +0100 <geekosaur> granting most folks don't build from git, but X11 not wanting to v2-install is a problem
2021-02-07 21:11:08 +0100 <geekosaur> we can tell folks to explicitly v1-install stuff, but this is temporary hackaround
2021-02-07 21:11:30 +0100 <geekosaur> (and in my case a bad one since I now have a bunch of gunk installed "globally")
2021-02-07 21:19:22 +0100geekosaur(82650c7a@130.101.12.122) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2021-02-07 21:23:00 +0100mc47never understood why cabal is so complicated
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2021-02-07 21:38:06 +0100geekosaur(82650c7a@130.101.12.122)
2021-02-07 21:40:07 +0100 <geekosaur> you haven't seen what's underneath C autoconf scripts :)
2021-02-07 21:41:49 +0100 <Liskni_si> geekosaur: is it not an issue when building from the tar on hackage?
2021-02-07 21:42:23 +0100 <geekosaur> I haven't tried, I used the git release because I think there are a few changes needed for git xmonad+contrib
2021-02-07 21:42:56 +0100 <Liskni_si> there aren't, yet
2021-02-07 21:43:02 +0100 <Liskni_si> none of that is merged
2021-02-07 21:43:04 +0100 <geekosaur> but the instructions are still going to do a v2-build instead of a v1-build, which will break everywhere because everything else assumes a v1-install
2021-02-07 21:43:38 +0100 <geekosaur> which is why I suspect most people get it from a package manager
2021-02-07 21:43:44 +0100 <Liskni_si> but the only difference between git and tarball is the existence of "configure", I think
2021-02-07 21:44:08 +0100 <geekosaur> I ran autoreconf, it's still broken (everything I can see is properly substituted)
2021-02-07 21:44:22 +0100 <geekosaur> v1-install works after autoreconf
2021-02-07 21:44:39 +0100 <geekosaur> v2-install gets that error, including the implicit one when doing v2-build of xmonad
2021-02-07 21:44:53 +0100 <Liskni_si> so I'd think v2 would be broken even when installing from tarball, is what I'm trying to say
2021-02-07 21:45:11 +0100 <geekosaur> which means it's also not related to env files like so many cabal infelicities/bugs
2021-02-07 21:45:23 +0100 <geekosaur> it probably is. but I only tested from git
2021-02-07 21:49:01 +0100brttmsn(~brtt@2600:8804:8689:3f00::2395)
2021-02-07 21:49:19 +0100 <brttmsn> is there a good tutorial for writing your own xmonad config somewhere?
2021-02-07 21:49:32 +0100 <brttmsn> or videos on how to add certain features/functions?
2021-02-07 21:49:41 +0100geekosaur(82650c7a@130.101.12.122) (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))
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2021-02-07 21:51:19 +0100 <geekosaur> I don't think there's an up to date one. there's one from 0.9 on the wiki
2021-02-07 21:52:29 +0100 <mc47> brttmsn distrotube made some vidoes about xmonad recently
2021-02-07 21:53:30 +0100 <brttmsn> yeah im looking over his but he doesnt really go into how to get certain libs and functions working. Like i wanna use the EZconfig lib so i can go from the default modm thing to just M-s-r to restart xmonad
2021-02-07 21:55:47 +0100 <mc47> Did you take a look at the documentation? Most modules have pretty good documentation and examples
2021-02-07 21:55:55 +0100 <brttmsn> im trying
2021-02-07 21:56:25 +0100 <geekosaur> most of the documentation is more helpful if you already know Haskell :)
2021-02-07 21:57:05 +0100 <mc47> I guess that's true :D
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2021-02-07 22:01:34 +0100 <geekosaur> I could point you to a slightly out of date version of my config, but there's a lot going on in there
2021-02-07 22:01:40 +0100 <mc47> I guess if you add: "`additionalKeysP` [("M-S-r", spawn "xmonad --restart"), ... ]" (replacing "..." with the rest of your keybindings) at the end of your config, it should work
2021-02-07 22:02:18 +0100 <mc47> Like this https://gitlab.com/dwt1/dotfiles/-/blob/master/.xmonad/xmonad.hs#L952 (took it from dt's dotfiles)
2021-02-07 22:02:18 +0100 <geekosaur> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/pyanfar/xmonad.hs#L188
2021-02-07 22:03:31 +0100mc47quickly steals `putEnv "_JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1"` to his config
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2021-02-07 22:11:07 +0100 <geekosaur> oh, I have a saved email from hvr which implies that someone has managed to new-install xmonad at some point, which implies new-install of X11 as well (that being how I hit the error) so apparently this used to work. possibly broke with cabal 3, though
2021-02-07 22:11:42 +0100 <geekosaur> hm, no, the issue is about cabal 3. so I wonder when things broke
2021-02-07 22:11:44 +0100 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/199#issuecomment-609433196
2021-02-07 22:12:15 +0100 <geekosaur> this is what I was going to work from in configuring my xmonad, although I wanted to do a proper cabal 3 setup first
2021-02-07 22:17:46 +0100 <brttmsn> Well i think im going to try and completely rewrite my config
2021-02-07 22:18:19 +0100 <brttmsn> i want to be able to use the EZConfig thing so i can replace that whole convulated way of writing shortcuts with something way more simple
2021-02-07 22:49:12 +0100 <brttmsn> okay this is confusing me
2021-02-07 22:51:07 +0100 <geekosaur> yes?
2021-02-07 22:57:33 +0100 <brttmsn> every time i fix one error another one creeps up
2021-02-07 22:57:42 +0100 <brttmsn> this one is about myLogHook = return ()
2021-02-07 22:59:24 +0100 <brttmsn> i havent made any changes about myLogHook or anything that i can think of. All im trying to do is add in my key bindings
2021-02-07 23:01:09 +0100 <geekosaur> that may be indentation, haskell is indentation sensitive. or youdropped a bracket somewhere so it's trying to read other stuff as part of your keybinds
2021-02-07 23:01:58 +0100geekosauris not going to be around much longer, must leave soon
2021-02-07 23:02:27 +0100 <brttmsn> i wish i could c/p my xmonad.hs file im working on so u could see if i messed up somewhere
2021-02-07 23:02:58 +0100 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-02-07 23:02:58 +0100 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at eg https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-02-07 23:04:59 +0100 <brttmsn> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/fCweOsF5
2021-02-07 23:05:04 +0100 <brttmsn> thats what ive got so far
2021-02-07 23:06:13 +0100 <geekosaur> myEventHook should be return (All True) as the comment above it says
2021-02-07 23:06:23 +0100 <geekosaur> an empty Map would be a type error
2021-02-07 23:08:29 +0100 <Liskni_si> or just mempty :-)
2021-02-07 23:09:37 +0100 <geekosaur> or idHook
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