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2021-01-27 00:06:11 +0100 <Liskni_si> that dynamic icons PR, would that work as a separate module? looks like it might, in which case they might mark themselves as a maintainer and we wouldn't need to worry about consistent code quality with the rest of DynamicLog
2021-01-27 00:06:40 +0100 <Liskni_si> (trying to strike a balance between being welcoming to new contributors and future maintenance burden)
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2021-01-27 08:45:20 +0100 <AusCyber> hi
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2021-01-27 08:47:59 +0100 <AusCyber> has anyone ever tried to make Lenses for StackSet?
2021-01-27 08:48:26 +0100 <AusCyber> I was going to do it anyone for my extension but I wondered if anyone had already done it?
2021-01-27 08:51:59 +0100 <Solid> Liskni_si: done! I think doing things in handleOther is quite elegant and so I went with that for the prompt; treeselect, however, doesn't have such a function and so I went with the other approach there
2021-01-27 08:52:53 +0100 <Solid> AusCyber: the answer to "has anyone ever done X with xmonad" is probably yes :)
2021-01-27 08:53:29 +0100 <Solid> I remember augmenting the StackSet with lenses once; it was even possible to do this in a nicely backwards compatible way by deriving them with generic-lens
2021-01-27 08:53:39 +0100 <Solid> but frankly these dependencies are quite massive
2021-01-27 08:54:04 +0100 <AusCyber> Control.Lens is already in xmonad-contrib
2021-01-27 08:55:07 +0100 <AusCyber> If i did make Lenses would that be a worth contribution to xmonad or xmonad-contrib
2021-01-27 08:55:52 +0100 <Solid> the StackSet is defined in xmonad though
2021-01-27 08:55:57 +0100 <Solid> not in contrib
2021-01-27 08:56:13 +0100 <AusCyber> im not talking about like editing StackSet
2021-01-27 08:56:16 +0100 <Solid> and generic-lens has a whole bunch of TH dependencies on its own
2021-01-27 08:56:22 +0100 <AusCyber> just manually typing in lenses
2021-01-27 08:56:29 +0100 <AusCyber> for every single part of stackset
2021-01-27 08:57:38 +0100 <Solid> that still sounds like something that should belong to where the StackSet is actually defined
2021-01-27 08:57:49 +0100 <AusCyber> so i should add it to xmonad ?
2021-01-27 08:58:26 +0100 <Solid> if anything then yes
2021-01-27 08:58:38 +0100 <Solid> but as I said I'm not sure how feasible adding lens as an xmonad dependency is
2021-01-27 08:59:41 +0100 <AusCyber> maybe just not not adding them as a depdendency
2021-01-27 08:59:51 +0100 <AusCyber> but just making them functions
2021-01-27 08:59:54 +0100 <AusCyber> like what a lens is
2021-01-27 09:00:01 +0100 <AusCyber> like just purely defined
2021-01-27 09:00:15 +0100 <AusCyber> so in contrib modules u can use the lens package to actually manipulate them
2021-01-27 09:02:47 +0100 <Solid> how is lens a dependency in contrib btw? I can't find it in the dependency list
2021-01-27 09:02:51 +0100 <Solid> is it transitive?
2021-01-27 09:04:34 +0100 <AusCyber> i think something relies on it
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2021-01-27 09:10:19 +0100 <AusCyber> wait no maybe it doesnt rely on lens
2021-01-27 09:10:42 +0100 <AusCyber> anyway i could just make a simple lens library and add that
2021-01-27 09:10:50 +0100 <AusCyber> with different names
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2021-01-27 09:13:47 +0100 <Solid> microlens exists, but at that point I would question the validity of the whole endeavour
2021-01-27 09:14:12 +0100 <Solid> I'm just some guy on IRC of course but, as much as I love lenses to death, I don't think they're a good fit here
2021-01-27 09:14:23 +0100 <Solid> but feel free to wait for other people to respond
2021-01-27 09:17:10 +0100 <AusCyber> nah there still is the point as this means people can interact easier with the StackSet
2021-01-27 09:17:30 +0100 <AusCyber> I'm working on multiple Workspace Set kinda thing
2021-01-27 09:17:38 +0100 <AusCyber> and nested record updates is very annoying
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2021-01-27 14:29:49 +0100 <Solid> <Liskni_si> that dynamic icons PR, would that work as a separate module? looks like it might, in which case they might mark themselves as a maintainer and we wouldn't need to worry about consistent code quality with the rest of DynamicLog >> I think it would work as a separate module yeah
2021-01-27 14:31:35 +0100 <Solid> But I think we're also *almost* there in terms of code; we just need to fix some redefinitions of things already exposed by the StackSet, some trailing spaces, maybe add some strictness annotations...
2021-01-27 14:32:02 +0100 <Solid> I'm also not clear on why `NameSet' needs to hold a type variable, as it's not really used in the code
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2021-01-27 16:17:44 +0100 <Liskni_si> there was another PR recently that added some dynamic something based on the workspace windows, that seems related
2021-01-27 16:18:00 +0100 <Liskni_si> and NameSet could use some docs/examples, last time I checked
2021-01-27 16:24:30 +0100 <Solid> true that
2021-01-27 16:25:04 +0100 <Solid> ...I'm beginning to see the benefits of your suggestion :P
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2021-01-27 18:05:23 +0100 <Solid> fixing bugs feels good
2021-01-27 18:05:25 +0100 <Solid> I'm happy
2021-01-27 18:05:55 +0100 <Liskni_si> :-)
2021-01-27 18:06:30 +0100 <Liskni_si> it was an awesome team effort!
2021-01-27 18:07:38 +0100 <Liskni_si> (and I wanted to say that I love how you pick existing issues and PRs one after another and deal with them; that's really helpful; I'm swamped by my own troubles and barely keep up with the new stuff)
2021-01-27 18:07:46 +0100 <Solid> definitely! thanks again :)
2021-01-27 18:10:00 +0100geekosaur(82650c7c@130.101.12.124)
2021-01-27 18:10:30 +0100 <Solid> I have (mostly) managed to convince my brain that working on some issue/pr is a much better way of procrastinating than hanging around on reddit or something :>
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2021-01-27 19:22:18 +0100 <geekosaur> Someone accidentally a word…
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2021-01-27 19:36:23 +0100 <Solid> huh?
2021-01-27 19:39:47 +0100 <geekosaur> "If yes then I will try to find some time this as thoroughly as I can"
2021-01-27 19:45:26 +0100 <Solid> oh
2021-01-27 19:45:40 +0100 <Solid> haha, I should fix that yes
2021-01-27 19:46:17 +0100 <Solid> thanks
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2021-01-27 21:03:59 +0100andi_(~andi@unaffiliated/andi/x-9058200)
2021-01-27 21:05:37 +0100 <andi_> hello i got a question regarding xmobar, i want to use the Run MultiCpu option, but if i read the exmaple correct with the template [ "--template", "Cpu: <total0> % | <total1> %" i just see the workload of cpu0 and cpu1, now i have more cpus, is there a way to combine them into one value?
2021-01-27 21:05:43 +0100 <andi_> other than Run Cmd?
2021-01-27 21:07:53 +0100Liskni_siis quite happy with "--template", "<autovbar>", "--", "--contiguous-icons"
2021-01-27 21:08:27 +0100 <andi_> Liskni_si: would you share your xmobarrc?
2021-01-27 21:08:34 +0100 <Liskni_si> which doesn't answer your question, but I'd still suggest to try that, as it's quite compact and provides excellent information density
2021-01-27 21:08:50 +0100 <Liskni_si> andi_: https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/.xmonad/.xmobarrc
2021-01-27 21:09:23 +0100drl(~l@2600:1700:8360:3870:89c0:4bb5:2c99:7cc4)
2021-01-27 21:10:01 +0100 <andi_> thank you i'll have a quick look
2021-01-27 21:14:12 +0100 <andi_> Liskni_si: so if i see this correct it's a load-bar?
2021-01-27 21:14:41 +0100 <Liskni_si> andi_: it's one vertical bar for each CPU
2021-01-27 21:15:08 +0100 <Liskni_si> I wouldn't use the word "load" as that is a terminus technicus related to something unrelated to CPU usage
2021-01-27 21:15:32 +0100 <andi_> so my cpus are basically dead right now :)
2021-01-27 21:15:54 +0100 <andi_> but that's way more handy than the % for each core
2021-01-27 21:15:57 +0100 <Liskni_si> (unrelated is probably an overstatement, should've said something different)
2021-01-27 21:16:12 +0100 <Liskni_si> yeah, it's % for each core but takes much less space
2021-01-27 21:16:14 +0100 <andi_> Liskni_si: it's also just physical cores right?
2021-01-27 21:16:25 +0100 <Liskni_si> mine shows hyperthreads
2021-01-27 21:17:55 +0100growpotkin(~growpotki@130-45-30-154.dyn.grandenetworks.net)
2021-01-27 21:17:55 +0100 <Liskni_si> last time I checked, hyperthreading was disabled in Linux by default by cpu vulnerability mitigations, so if you're only seeing physical cores, maybe that's all you have right now :-)
2021-01-27 21:19:11 +0100 <geekosaur> I think that's false since I show two CPUs on this machine and I'm quite sure it's not multicore :)
2021-01-27 21:19:27 +0100 <Liskni_si> it's possible the default has changes since
2021-01-27 21:20:51 +0100 <geekosaur> (pretty sure this machine is older than some of the people in this channel)
2021-01-27 21:21:34 +0100 <Liskni_si> the machine being old probably means it's not vulnerable to the stuff that disabling SMT is meant to mitigate
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2021-01-27 22:08:42 +0100 <andi_> may i ask again if there's an option like Liskni_si said for the cputemp?
2021-01-27 22:10:36 +0100 <andi_> https://paste.xinu.at/eV60Xz/ that's my config so far
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2021-01-27 22:19:48 +0100 <Liskni_si> andi_: https://github.com/jaor/xmobar/blob/master/doc/plugins.org#multicoretemp-args-refreshrate
2021-01-27 22:20:52 +0100 <Liskni_si> Solid: ^^ the plugins.org file is not linked from readme.org, so even though I knew exactly what I'm looking for, it took me >1min to find it :-(
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2021-01-27 22:27:37 +0100 <Liskni_si> Fetched 91.8 MB in 21min 20s (71.7 kB/s)
2021-01-27 22:27:57 +0100 <Liskni_si> I wonder if ppa.launchpad.net is throttling github actions or if this is just an intermittent issue
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2021-01-27 23:57:36 +0100 <DrEuclidean> anyone here
2021-01-27 23:58:02 +0100 <Liskni_si> lots
2021-01-27 23:58:10 +0100 <DrEuclidean> awesome
2021-01-27 23:58:27 +0100 <DrEuclidean> i'm having trouble with it
2021-01-27 23:58:35 +0100 <DrEuclidean> I'm running FreeBSD
2021-01-27 23:58:49 +0100 <DrEuclidean> ghc --make .xmonad works
2021-01-27 23:59:08 +0100 <DrEuclidean> its chown-ed to my user
2021-01-27 23:59:15 +0100 <DrEuclidean> and it recompiled
2021-01-27 23:59:21 +0100 <DrEuclidean> yet it does not read the config
2021-01-27 23:59:52 +0100 <DrEuclidean> i meant ghc --make .xmonad.hs works