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2021-01-09 02:47:14 +0100 <Hash> My Xmonad community
2021-01-09 02:48:10 +0100 <Hash> I buried my older brother today with my own hands. I carried him to his final resting place and shoveled the Earth onto his grave.
2021-01-09 02:49:08 +0100 <Hash> He was an ER nurse, a COVID first responder, the most loving and kind soul... My entire life... 40 years... I cannot recall a single person who disliked him
2021-01-09 02:49:38 +0100 <Hash> He was a brillaint painter, an exceptional singer, that when he sang, you could not help but be moved. His voice induced chills.
2021-01-09 02:49:51 +0100 <Hash> My heart is broken into a million pieces.
2021-01-09 02:50:29 +0100 <L29Ah> did he use xmonad?
2021-01-09 02:50:30 +0100 <Hash> I shed not one tear in front of my family and did my best to support my mother and sister.
2021-01-09 02:50:44 +0100 <Hash> But here in front of you, I cannot help but weep uncontrollably.
2021-01-09 02:50:53 +0100 <Hash> I cannot be a man in this moment. I have to break down and let it out.
2021-01-09 02:51:12 +0100 <Hash> Please... whatever you may believe, pray that my mother and sister can find peace.
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2021-01-09 11:46:56 +0100 <Solid> holy shit, Hash I'm very sorry for your loss
2021-01-09 11:49:10 +0100 <Solid> Liskni_si: I don't think pandoc-2.11 is needed to generate the manpage, it just happened to be the version I was using when I rebuild it in #258
2021-01-09 11:49:53 +0100 <Solid> And I'm not sure what you mean by "it doesn't build in LTS 16", as it build just fine for me; do you mean that, for some reason, the CI can't build it?
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2021-01-09 12:30:52 +0100 <Liskni_si> Solid: that's truly weird, it doesn't build here
2021-01-09 12:31:40 +0100 <Liskni_si> there's pandoc 2.9 in LTS 16, and the current version of GenerateManpage requires pandoc 2.11, which has different API
2021-01-09 12:32:01 +0100 <Liskni_si> I can't see how you could build it with LTS 16 :-/
2021-01-09 12:32:20 +0100 <Solid> Oo
2021-01-09 12:32:24 +0100 <Solid> that is weird indeed
2021-01-09 12:32:33 +0100 <Liskni_si> (apart from overriding pandoc in extra-deps in stack.yaml)
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2021-01-09 12:37:19 +0100 <Solid> oh, my zsh history tells me I actually build it with cabal instead of stack
2021-01-09 12:37:22 +0100 <Solid> well, nvmd then :)
2021-01-09 12:40:21 +0100 <Liskni_si> good, I'm not hallucinating or delusional then
2021-01-09 13:19:50 +0100 <afreak> trying the 'RefocusLast' module, it works nice with normal-floating-windows, but it does not seem to work with NamedScratchpad-floating-windows, is there something different you have to do to make it work with NamedScrathpad ?
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2021-01-09 14:09:26 +0100 <afreak> seems refocuslast only works if the floating window is being closed, not if its shifted to another workspace
2021-01-09 14:18:12 +0100 <afreak> lol it even says so in the module ^^ sorry
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2021-01-09 15:08:53 +0100 <sillyKitty> I'm having issues getting the prompts in Xmonad to work, after importing and binding xmonadPrompt to a keybinding, nothing happens, no errors in xmonad.error, I've confirmed it is not the keybinding by attaching a spawn instead of the prompt, not sure where to go from here
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2021-01-09 15:13:56 +0100 <sillyKitty> version is 0.15 running on arch if that makes any difference
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2021-01-09 15:26:52 +0100 <Solid> sillyKitty: have you given `xmonadPrompt' its required XPConfig argument?
2021-01-09 15:27:25 +0100 <sillyKitty> yup, I've used def, amberXPConfig, and greenXPConfig as well as modifying def, no go
2021-01-09 15:28:57 +0100 <Solid> as a sanity check, xmonad --recompile does not produce any errors, right?
2021-01-09 15:29:05 +0100 <sillyKitty> correct
2021-01-09 15:30:58 +0100 <sillyKitty> Ive also run it on a default config with no xmobar and it also doesn't appear anywhere
2021-01-09 15:32:50 +0100materiyolo(~materiyol@112.204.170.198)
2021-01-09 15:33:43 +0100 <Solid> that sounds truly weird
2021-01-09 15:33:45 +0100dariof4(~dario@217.171.66.75)
2021-01-09 15:34:29 +0100 <Solid> can you check your xsession-log (or however it's called)
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2021-01-09 15:35:35 +0100 <geekosaur> that can mean a font is missing and it's throwing an exception
2021-01-09 15:36:06 +0100 <geekosaur> modern linux systems don't install the "fixed" bitmap font which is the default (and used to be part of base X11)
2021-01-09 15:36:20 +0100 <sillyKitty> I checked the /var/log/Xorg.* files and nothing there, but the font sounds plausable, hadn't considered that
2021-01-09 15:37:05 +0100 <Solid> depending on how you start your X server you may have to redirect things to your own log file
2021-01-09 15:37:54 +0100 <Solid> but the font thing sounds the most plausible; I remember reading some issue about arch and default fonts
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2021-01-09 15:41:39 +0100 <sillyKitty> yup, that was it, hardcoded a font in there and it started up ... then the whole thing froze, but I think I can probably debug that, thanks!
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2021-01-09 15:54:19 +0100toniz4(~toniz4@unaffiliated/toniz4)
2021-01-09 15:55:18 +0100 <toniz4> hello, it's possible to change the layouts name? I want to display a icon on my bar, instead of the name, like Tall or Full
2021-01-09 15:57:14 +0100 <Solid> toniz4: check out XMonad.Layout.Renamed
2021-01-09 16:00:00 +0100 <toniz4> Solid: Thanks!
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2021-01-09 16:23:55 +0100 <toniz4> I'm having a problem using this, when using an icon it doesn't work. Here is the error https://0x0.st/-zs1.txt
2021-01-09 16:27:01 +0100 <Irishluck83> is that a font awesome icon?
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2021-01-09 16:28:20 +0100 <toniz4> Irishluck83: nope, siji/stlarch
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2021-01-09 16:30:44 +0100 <Solid> try using "\57649" explicitly instead of the icon
2021-01-09 16:30:56 +0100 <Solid> (yes it's a hack, but it'll probably work ;)
2021-01-09 16:31:02 +0100 <Irishluck83> that i was thinking or to see if it had those
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2021-01-09 16:34:58 +0100 <toniz4> Solid: thanks again, it worked
2021-01-09 16:35:27 +0100 <toniz4> why that happened? Haskell don't support unicode 100%?
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2021-01-09 16:39:43 +0100 <Irishluck83> nope
2021-01-09 16:40:05 +0100 <Irishluck83> if you want something like that for your workspaces you need to do the same thing
2021-01-09 16:40:32 +0100 <Solid> GHC _should_ be completely UTF-8 compliant
2021-01-09 16:40:48 +0100 <Solid> but I remember string literals being kinda flaky sometimes
2021-01-09 16:40:59 +0100 <Solid> there are a few issues about this on gitlab, but all of them are closed
2021-01-09 16:41:11 +0100 <Solid> it's probably some unicode table somewhere that's out of date
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2021-01-09 17:59:48 +0100 <geekosaur> someone made the decision that string literals should not support private use area characters directly, only as escapes. :(
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2021-01-09 18:15:56 +0100 <Liskni_si> I do have to confess that the exchange with Peter has made me extremely demotivated.
2021-01-09 18:18:20 +0100 <vrs> eh your argument seems sound
2021-01-09 18:18:55 +0100 <vrs> if it fixes a build problem and simplifies dependencies, it's a measurable improvement
2021-01-09 18:22:00 +0100 <Liskni_si> The entirety of GenerateManpage could probably be a oneliner in sed or make or perl or something, yet here we are arguing which exact half a gig worth of deps is the best one to use.
2021-01-09 18:22:07 +0100 <Liskni_si> This is fuckin bollocks.
2021-01-09 18:22:14 +0100 <Liskni_si> (sorry for the language)
2021-01-09 18:35:16 +0100 <vrs> you could always be stuck arguing with a maintainer over irrelevant formatting details that only happen because they refuse to use an autoformatter
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2021-01-09 18:36:14 +0100 <vrs> "we have a style guide, but you'll have to style it all by hand, and yeah I'll make that a sticking point"
2021-01-09 18:37:27 +0100 <Liskni_si> I'd actually prefer that :-(
2021-01-09 18:37:31 +0100 <Liskni_si> or :-)
2021-01-09 18:41:51 +0100 <Solid> calling 8.8.x an old compiler is a bit... well, weird
2021-01-09 18:48:24 +0100 <Solid> and I don't really understand this pr
2021-01-09 18:49:19 +0100 <Solid> we switch to 8.10 because "development should take place withrecent versions of our dependencies", but we have to support the old GHC versions anyways
2021-01-09 18:49:52 +0100 <Solid> and what if a developer wants to update the man page, but their distro doesn't ship 8.10 yet? do they have to compile GHC themselves for that?
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2021-01-09 19:15:58 +0100 <sfrique> hello, is there a "better" way for running xmobars when changing number of monitor? For instance, I just want to start one xmobar if there is only 1 output, but star two if there is two. Right now it starts two all the time.
2021-01-09 19:16:29 +0100 <geekosaur> XMonad.Actions.DynamicBars?
2021-01-09 19:17:24 +0100 <sfrique> let me look!
2021-01-09 19:18:36 +0100 <sfrique> it seems it could do the trick, i will take a look.
2021-01-09 19:18:40 +0100 <sfrique> thanks!
2021-01-09 19:19:26 +0100 <sfrique> the other problem is related to salonetray, but i guess a simple restart with different configs should do the trick. If you know a way to do this in xmonad itself it would be good.
2021-01-09 19:19:53 +0100 <sfrique> I am currently going to use grobi to manage multi screens changes. Not sure if this is possible with xmonad itself
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2021-01-09 19:31:21 +0100 <mc47> What's the general feeling about using the combinator (.) . (.) ? :-) I'm tempted to use it in the PR I'm writing...
2021-01-09 19:31:55 +0100 <Solid> I like multivariant composition
2021-01-09 19:33:31 +0100 <mc47> I do too !
2021-01-09 19:33:35 +0100 <Solid> and I think in the case of `(.) . (.)' (I've seen this being defined as `(.:)') it's easy enough to see what's going on
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2021-01-09 19:34:26 +0100 <mc47> I like that symbol too
2021-01-09 19:34:27 +0100 <Solid> but it's probably really easy to write unintelligible code with it :>
2021-01-09 19:35:12 +0100 <mc47> It's just f .: g I promise :D
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2021-01-09 19:35:31 +0100 <Solid> hah
2021-01-09 19:35:37 +0100 <Solid> in that case it seems fine
2021-01-09 19:35:45 +0100 <mc47> Nice!
2021-01-09 19:35:46 +0100 <Solid> (to me)
2021-01-09 19:36:22 +0100 <mc47> BTW, the issue I mentioned last time with "cleanupStatusBars" was completely avoidable
2021-01-09 19:43:50 +0100 <Liskni_si> So, um, is this (https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/261#issuecomment-757349330) person really telling me that I should cut out the ad hominem attacks?
2021-01-09 19:44:16 +0100 <Liskni_si> I was always bad at dealing with people, so I'd use a hint or something :-)
2021-01-09 19:44:22 +0100 <Solid> uff
2021-01-09 19:44:22 +0100 <geekosaur> their latest seems more like an ad hominem attack
2021-01-09 19:44:32 +0100 <Solid> maybe they're having a bad day or something
2021-01-09 19:45:04 +0100 <Liskni_si> Maybe I should give this a break, yeah.
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2021-01-09 19:53:28 +0100 <Solid> I feel like if you do this issue will just stay open for months without any resolution :/
2021-01-09 19:54:05 +0100 <Liskni_si> I meant waiting a few days.
2021-01-09 19:54:49 +0100 <Liskni_si> I think it's pretty clear the problem has been acknowledged by now. We just need to calm down the discussion and agree upon an approach to solving it.
2021-01-09 19:55:15 +0100 <Solid> ah I see
2021-01-09 19:55:23 +0100 <Solid> yeah that sounds reasonable
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