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2020-12-31 10:19:13 +0000 <Solid> ?tell mc-47 I just noticed that you must have deleted `cleanupStatusBars' from the startupHooks in statusBarProp[To] at some point; that function is never called now unless users manually add it to their startupHooks, might want to fix that ;)
2020-12-31 10:19:13 +0000 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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2020-12-31 12:10:14 +0000 <ElKowar> is the type signature of `XMonad.Layout.IndependentScreens.onCurrentScreen` just wrong? it's (VirtualWorkspace -> WindowSet -> a) -> PhysicalWorkspace -> Windowset -> a but the example code using it shows it being used with a VirtualWorkspace as the second last argument,.....
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2020-12-31 12:13:01 +0000 <ElKowar> IndependentScreens is very much underdocumented / weirdly documented,... no idea how i actually managed to initially understand that thing lol
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2020-12-31 13:15:40 +0000 <Solid> ElKowar: according to the code both `PhysicalWorkspace' and `VirtualWorkspace' are just aliases for `WorkspaceId'
2020-12-31 13:15:57 +0000 <ElKowar> yea, i know, that's why i'm asking ;D otherwise the signature could not have been wrong
2020-12-31 13:16:26 +0000 <Solid> ah I see
2020-12-31 13:16:41 +0000 <Solid> well `marshall' expects a `VirtualWorkspace'
2020-12-31 13:16:57 +0000 <Solid> so I would assume that should be the case for `onCurrentScreen' as well
2020-12-31 13:17:29 +0000 <Solid> something-something that wouldn't have happend with newtypes something-something
2020-12-31 13:17:55 +0000 <Solid> oh and the name even is `vws', probabyl not supposed to be a physical one, that one :D
2020-12-31 13:20:40 +0000 <ElKowar> that whole module needs a good bit of love i feel like
2020-12-31 13:20:49 +0000 <ElKowar> currenlty trying to fix some issues with the window activation event
2020-12-31 13:21:04 +0000 <ElKowar> for which i need things like a `W.view` that views on the correct screen
2020-12-31 13:21:57 +0000 <Solid> yes a blame shows that the last commit to that module was in 2013
2020-12-31 13:22:42 +0000 <Solid> I guess at some point most people embrace xmonad's objectvitely superior way of handling multi-monitor setups :>
2020-12-31 13:22:59 +0000 <ElKowar> really not a fan of the index-style handling i guess xD
2020-12-31 13:23:06 +0000 <ElKowar> just feels really awkward, even after a week of trying to get used to it
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2020-12-31 13:52:32 +0000 <ElKowar> God this took me much longer than it should have
2020-12-31 13:53:18 +0000 <ElKowar> https://paste.gnome.org/pzkgxpgna
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2020-12-31 14:20:46 +0000 <ElKowar> I'm still really confused by onCurrentScreen. Like the description states that it can transform functions of virtual workspaces to physical workspaces - which would at least have a point. The implementation however does the opposite - it takes a function that expects a physical workspace, and returns one over virtual workspaces
2020-12-31 14:20:55 +0000 <ElKowar> but then, why does it actually _work_?
2020-12-31 14:21:57 +0000 <ElKowar> the example shows `windows $ onCurrentScreen W.view 1`, which,... seems off
2020-12-31 14:22:19 +0000 <ElKowar> like onCurrentScreen W.view gives me `VirtualWorkspace -> WindowSet -> WindowSet`
2020-12-31 14:22:21 +0000 <ElKowar> wait ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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2020-12-31 14:22:59 +0000 <ElKowar> then they're giving it "1", which is a VirtualWorkspace, which will then in turn be turned back into "1-1" (for exMPLe) and thus result in the correct WindowSet -> WindowSet function
2020-12-31 14:23:04 +0000 <ElKowar> ohhhh god this is weird
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2020-12-31 15:39:53 +0000 <daphnis> is it normal for everything the freeze if your cat types too many characters into the shell prompt?
2020-12-31 15:40:06 +0000 <daphnis> s/the/to
2020-12-31 15:41:32 +0000 <daphnis> i can open a different tty and see the changes in the tmux window, but the x session doesn't seem to accept any input at all
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2020-12-31 16:24:32 +0000 <ElKowar> Okay, I think I'm done with https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/438 now! Should make IndependentScreens a lot more ergonomic to work with
2020-12-31 16:24:38 +0000 <vrs> daphnis: ctrl+s/ctrl+q?
2020-12-31 16:24:58 +0000 <vrs> I don't think there's a similar thing for X though
2020-12-31 16:27:41 +0000 <daphnis> vrs: for x as opposed to what? i ended up killing xinit
2020-12-31 16:28:14 +0000 <vrs> C-s/C-q like to freeze terminals and it's usually very surprising
2020-12-31 16:29:23 +0000 <vrs> well, c-s does, c=q unfreezes
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2020-12-31 16:46:18 +0000 <daphnis> vrs: aha
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2020-12-31 23:21:58 +0000 <andytoshi> hiya. i'm trying to make my xmobar look different on the active monitor ... i've been able to output the screen ID of the active screen from xmonad, but i can't figure out how to make xmobar do anything useful with it (seems that StdinReader is just a dumb pipe)
2020-12-31 23:22:09 +0000notis(~notis@185.51.134.229)
2020-12-31 23:22:13 +0000 <andytoshi> so alternatively i've been trying to do everything in xmonad...
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2020-12-31 23:22:52 +0000 <andytoshi> but i have a xmobarPP, and only ppOutput knows about the different instances of xmobar, and it's a String -> IO ()
2020-12-31 23:23:05 +0000 <andytoshi> so I'm outside of the X monad there and can't get the current screen
2020-12-31 23:23:25 +0000 <andytoshi> has anyone successfully done this before?
2020-12-31 23:24:04 +0000 <Liskni_si> I have, but my setup is very custom
2020-12-31 23:24:29 +0000 <Liskni_si> on the other hand, having multiple xmobars sounds a bit custom, too
2020-12-31 23:25:40 +0000 <Liskni_si> my config is here: https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/.xmonad/xmonad.hs, and if you show us yours, maybe we can figure out the least intrusive way to do that
2020-12-31 23:26:37 +0000 <andytoshi> sure, one moment
2020-12-31 23:26:54 +0000 <andytoshi> is having multiple xmobars pretty custom? i think that's the usual way to get them on every monitor
2020-12-31 23:29:03 +0000 <andytoshi> here is my xmobar log hook -- | Get the name of the current layout.
2020-12-31 23:29:03 +0000 <andytoshi> logLayout :: Logger
2020-12-31 23:29:09 +0000 <andytoshi> oops wrong paste
2020-12-31 23:29:11 +0000 <andytoshi> here it is https://github.com/apoelstra/xmonad-config/blob/master/xmonad.hs#L49-L57
2020-12-31 23:29:33 +0000 <andytoshi> i am doing some weird/custom stuff with workspaces, to force them to specific monitors, but i think the xmobar stuff is fairly mainstream
2020-12-31 23:29:37 +0000 <Liskni_si> well it's not something that is supported directly by DynamicLog, and DynamicBars is not very well documented and arguably somewhat less flexible (at least for me)
2020-12-31 23:29:55 +0000 <Liskni_si> so I'd consider it pretty custom :-)
2020-12-31 23:30:01 +0000 <andytoshi> ok that's fair :)
2020-12-31 23:30:58 +0000 <andytoshi> so... IndependentScreens actually does roughly what i'm trying to do here .. see `marshalPP` https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.13/docs/src/XMonad-Layout-IndependentScreens.…
2020-12-31 23:31:18 +0000 <andytoshi> but the way they've done that is pretty hacky and specific to their way of naming workspaces (and mapping them to monitors) which i don't like
2020-12-31 23:31:31 +0000 <andytoshi> so i'd have to redo that code ... which i can do, but hopefully i don't have to implement my own PP like that
2020-12-31 23:31:43 +0000 <andytoshi> my hope is that there's a "simpler" way to go
2020-12-31 23:32:07 +0000 <Liskni_si> took a look at your code, I think the problem is that you're running dynamicLogWithPP only once and outputting the same output to all three xmobars
2020-12-31 23:32:32 +0000 <Liskni_si> when you invoke dynamicLogWithPP with slightly different pp for every xmobar, you'll have the flexibility you need
2020-12-31 23:32:46 +0000 <andytoshi> Liskni_si: yep .. which i think i got from some "xmonad with multiple monitors" tutorial
2020-12-31 23:32:58 +0000 <andytoshi> ok, nice, let me look into how to have multiple pps
2020-12-31 23:33:11 +0000 <Liskni_si> (and my xmonad.hs actually does implement my own PP because I need stuff that isn't in DynamicLog either)
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