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2020-12-30 10:17:45 +0100 <Solid> I wish things in the PP type were a little more strongly typed :/
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2020-12-30 12:30:02 +0100 <ADG1089__> @t spawnPipe
2020-12-30 12:30:03 +0100 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: tell thank you thanks thesaurus thx tic-tac-toe ticker time todo todo-add todo-delete type v @ ? .
2020-12-30 12:30:11 +0100 <ADG1089__> @type spawnPipe
2020-12-30 12:30:14 +0100 <lambdabot> error: Variable not in scope: spawnPipe
2020-12-30 12:31:11 +0100 <ADG1089__> spawnPipe :: MonadIO m => String -> m Handle (Launch an external application through the system shell and return a Handle to its standard input.)
2020-12-30 12:31:52 +0100 <ADG1089__> how can i get the handle to its standard output?
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2020-12-30 12:38:56 +0100 <Solid> it returns the handle as a monadic action
2020-12-30 12:39:19 +0100 <Solid> i.e. if you're in some do-notation-thing you can do `h <- spawnPipe "my-program"'`
2020-12-30 12:39:26 +0100 <Solid> and then `h` will be the handle
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2020-12-30 13:30:52 +0100 <ADG1089__> Solid: it returns stdin, i wanted stdout; I copied the source code and modified it to spawnPipe'
2020-12-30 13:31:08 +0100 <ADG1089__> anyways, i wanted to know if there is a X transformer
2020-12-30 13:31:10 +0100 <ADG1089__> @hoogle X a -> IO a
2020-12-30 13:31:11 +0100 <lambdabot> Basement.Monad unsafePrimToIO :: PrimMonad prim => prim a -> IO a
2020-12-30 13:31:11 +0100 <lambdabot> Generic.Data.Internal.Utils coerce' :: Coercible (f x) (g x) => f x -> g x
2020-12-30 13:31:11 +0100 <lambdabot> Control.Effect.Lift sendM :: (Has (Lift n) sig m, Functor n) => n a -> m a
2020-12-30 13:32:44 +0100 <Solid> ADG1089__: whoops, sorry for missing that detail
2020-12-30 13:33:39 +0100 <Solid> There's no (safe) way to do `X a -> IO a', no
2020-12-30 13:33:51 +0100 <Solid> because the X monad is essentially "IO with more stuff"
2020-12-30 13:34:33 +0100 <Solid> what you can do it run that "more stuff" and get the IO action out; that function is called `runX'
2020-12-30 13:34:42 +0100 <Solid> @hoogle runX
2020-12-30 13:34:43 +0100 <lambdabot> Text.XML.HXT.Arrow.XmlState runX :: IOSArrow XmlTree c -> IO [c]
2020-12-30 13:34:43 +0100 <lambdabot> Text.XML.HXT.Arrow.XmlState.RunIOStateArrow runX :: IOSArrow XmlTree c -> IO [c]
2020-12-30 13:34:43 +0100 <lambdabot> XMonad.Core runX :: XConf -> XState -> X a -> IO (a, XState)
2020-12-30 13:35:10 +0100 <ADG1089__> Solid: I was using XMonad.Util.ExtensibleState#gets :: (ExtensionClass a, XLike m) => (a -> b) -> m b inside a do notation with IO
2020-12-30 13:35:35 +0100 <ADG1089__> but IO is not XLike so i couldn't bind the result `v <- XS.gets`
2020-12-30 13:36:00 +0100 <Solid> Yes, if your function is in IO there's no way you can get at xmonad's extensible state
2020-12-30 13:36:39 +0100geekosaur(ac3a8b4c@172.58.139.76)
2020-12-30 13:37:58 +0100 <ADG1089__> I can make that X and use liftIO in dependent functions
2020-12-30 13:38:01 +0100 <ADG1089__> I think Solid
2020-12-30 13:39:27 +0100 <Solid> That would be possible yes
2020-12-30 13:40:13 +0100 <Solid> actually, maybe not; depends on _where_ you want to use that
2020-12-30 13:40:42 +0100 <dminuoso> It still surprises me how non-Haskellers write their xmonad config with extensible state, and not run scared off. It confused the heck out of me for a long while how this could even work when I was actually learning Haskell.
2020-12-30 13:41:41 +0100 <Solid> dminuoso: I would expect non-Haskellers to be much more comfortable with the idea of "oh there's some bit of global mutable state here" than people who're already a few levels deep into the cult ;)
2020-12-30 13:49:26 +0100 <ADG1089__> i have some haskell experience
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2020-12-30 14:03:04 +0100 <dminuoso> Solid: Not just mutable state, but global mutable extensible state! :P
2020-12-30 14:03:47 +0100 <aldum> non-haskellers don't know what they are messing with in the config :)
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2020-12-30 20:35:55 +0100 <ADG1089__> anyone using gridselect, has anyone thought of adding add .desktop files in path to it?
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2020-12-30 20:49:11 +0100 <Liskni_si> ADG1089__: rofi already does this
2020-12-30 20:49:31 +0100 <Liskni_si> (but the UI is different a bit, yeah)
2020-12-30 20:54:28 +0100geekosaur(42d52137@66.213.33.55)
2020-12-30 20:55:59 +0100 <ADG1089__> Liskni_si: this rofi is amazing
2020-12-30 20:56:22 +0100 <ADG1089__> I can remove xmonad run prompt, ssh prompt, grid select
2020-12-30 20:57:05 +0100 <ADG1089__> and probably tree select too
2020-12-30 21:01:10 +0100mc47(~yecinem@89.246.239.190)
2020-12-30 21:01:56 +0100 <dminuoso> Gah, why is the intel driver so damn buggy.
2020-12-30 21:02:15 +0100 <dminuoso> Now firefox is regularly bugged to the point, that it's window content doesn't refresh. It's visually stuck
2020-12-30 21:02:29 +0100 <ADG1089__> Liskni_si: i have used Albert launcher in the past, how does it compare to rofi
2020-12-30 21:02:49 +0100 <dminuoso> Sadly modesetting doesn't offer vsync, what are my options here? Is a compositor likely to have a positive effect?
2020-12-30 21:04:27 +0100ohmysomuchuser(~nickednam@037008230172.dynamic-3-poz-k-1-2-0.vectranet.pl)
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2020-12-30 21:10:32 +0100antoniy(~antoniy@78.130.185.113)
2020-12-30 21:15:38 +0100 <al3x27> ADG1089__: rofi is simpler, but faster
2020-12-30 21:16:36 +0100 <al3x27> ADG1089__: gridselect is great for stuff you tend to forget (for older folk)
2020-12-30 21:16:59 +0100 <Liskni_si> dminuoso: compositor solves tearing
2020-12-30 21:17:16 +0100 <Liskni_si> dminuoso: unfortunately it usually brings its own problems
2020-12-30 21:17:58 +0100 <Liskni_si> I'm on picom 7.4 and it works, but newer versions are slow and older buggy. It's a total mess.
2020-12-30 21:18:33 +0100 <Liskni_si> (the x11 compositor landscape, not picom/compton in particular)
2020-12-30 21:18:50 +0100 <Liskni_si> ADG1089__: never heard of Albert
2020-12-30 21:21:15 +0100 <ADG1089__> Liskni_si: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i95rn3sl_Uo
2020-12-30 21:21:19 +0100 <al3x27> Liskni_si: Liskni_si it's a quicksilver wanabe, from the golden days of MocOS
2020-12-30 21:21:36 +0100 <al3x27> MacOS
2020-12-30 21:27:23 +0100 <dminuoso> Liskni_si: Sigh. So perhaps its better to just accept tearing, switch to modesetting and not plug in a compositor then...
2020-12-30 21:28:06 +0100 <Liskni_si> dminuoso: it's not that bad :-)
2020-12-30 21:28:28 +0100 <Liskni_si> Most people won't notice the slowness or the bugs.
2020-12-30 21:28:38 +0100 <dminuoso> Well, I guess its bearable since I rarely watch videos on my work laptop.
2020-12-30 21:28:49 +0100 <dminuoso> On my desktop it's a different story because it's an nvidia card
2020-12-30 21:28:58 +0100 <Liskni_si> It's better than the random full system hangs of xf86-video-intel
2020-12-30 21:29:12 +0100 <dminuoso> full system hangs?
2020-12-30 21:29:26 +0100 <dminuoso> Mmm. Well I've had just my share of large windows bug/crap out in mysterious ways..
2020-12-30 21:29:32 +0100 <dminuoso> All disappeared when I switched to modesetting. :>
2020-12-30 21:29:39 +0100 <Liskni_si> Or whatever other problem you're having...
2020-12-30 21:30:10 +0100 <dminuoso> I should get a T14 then with an ATI card.
2020-12-30 21:30:14 +0100 <dminuoso> Or well. AMD.
2020-12-30 21:30:20 +0100 <Liskni_si> :-D
2020-12-30 21:31:24 +0100 <Liskni_si> I'm going to bisect picom sooner or later, but there's little motivation as 7.4 or .5 or whatever I have just works.
2020-12-30 21:31:44 +0100 <Liskni_si> I don't need the fancy new features like shadows that slow everything down
2020-12-30 21:32:28 +0100 <Liskni_si> Or blurs. Shadows are there since xcompmgr
2020-12-30 21:32:31 +0100 <dminuoso> Well, at best Id just use it to fight tearing.
2020-12-30 21:33:03 +0100Solidis still using some old compton fork because it has a blur option that no one else has yet :>
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2020-12-30 21:33:45 +0100 <dminuoso> How is blur even useful on a tiling wm?
2020-12-30 21:33:56 +0100 <dminuoso> Oh wait. I was thinking transparency
2020-12-30 21:35:30 +0100 <Solid> dminuoso: I don't have a border around windows; instead, unfocused windows are slightly transparent+blured
2020-12-30 21:36:03 +0100 <dminuoso> Can you share a screenshot how that would look? Im curious
2020-12-30 21:38:56 +0100 <Liskni_si> I think I only have blur under notify-osd and I could live even without that.
2020-12-30 21:40:21 +0100 <Solid> dminuoso: sure https://i.imgur.com/nBNvBfc.png
2020-12-30 21:40:26 +0100 <Liskni_si> Actually have no idea if that blur is composited
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2020-12-30 21:47:46 +0100 <AHemlocksLie> I'm getting into xmonad and using it to build an info board sort of set up, and I want to autostart some programs and predefine the layout of a couple workspaces. Ideally, define a few workspaces, each with a preset list of autorun applications in a set layout and its own background. Can anyone recommend a resource to start working this out?
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2020-12-30 21:54:27 +0100 <Solid> AHemlocksLie: you can use topic spaces ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-TopicSpace.html ) or dynamic projects ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-DynamicProjects.html ) for that
2020-12-30 21:54:43 +0100 <Solid> (probably others, but these are the ones that come to mind right now)
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2020-12-30 22:07:08 +0100 <AHemlocksLie> Awesome, thanks for the leads
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