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| 2026-05-30 19:26:37 +0000 | Guest22 | (~Guest22@108-248-87-227.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 2026-05-30 19:32:40 +0000 | <Guest22> | I know waymonad has kind of died, but has anyone tried porting XMonad concepts as an existing compositor's plugin? I'm having some level of success using wayfire's IPC, but trying to see if someone already has something I missed. |
| 2026-05-30 19:36:35 +0000 | <geekosaur> | not yet but we're planning out a river plugin |
| 2026-05-30 19:38:10 +0000 | <geekosaur> | we've had three attempts at using wlroots die so we're considering that not worth looking at until/unless someone manages to come up with a working wlroots binding |
| 2026-05-30 19:41:11 +0000 | <Guest22> | nice. I'd love to see any insights you guys uncover using river. Is this in-progress work public? I probably can't meaningfully contribute but I like reading what people are doing |
| 2026-05-30 19:41:29 +0000 | <geekosaur> | as I said, just planning so far |
| 2026-05-30 19:41:59 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I think Solid has a vibe-coded proof of concept, but we have no intention of starting from that, just demonstrating feasibility |
| 2026-05-30 19:44:11 +0000 | <geekosaur> | s/I think// |
| 2026-05-30 19:44:27 +0000 | <Guest22> | yeah that's what I did for my wayfire IPC approach. It captured a lot of what I get out of xmonad which is what prompted me to ask broader. Looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with |
| 2026-05-30 19:45:27 +0000 | <geekosaur> | also latest Ubuntu has more or less forced me onto sway for the moment, and I've been taking notes for things we should have and some experiments I'd like to try |
| 2026-05-30 19:48:44 +0000 | <Guest22> | they finally pull the plug on x11? |
| 2026-05-30 19:48:45 +0000 | <geekosaur> | (X hangs; not sure if it's a bug in X or the GPU driver, which was really broken in 25.10 and still might be glitchy in 26.04 although at least it's not hanging twice a day and occasionally cold-booting the machine) |
| 2026-05-30 19:49:00 +0000 | <geekosaur> | it's still there but unsupported |
| 2026-05-30 19:49:17 +0000 | <geekosaur> | and the shipped gnome and kde are wayland-only |
| 2026-05-30 19:50:35 +0000 | <Guest22> | that's rough |
| 2026-05-30 19:51:15 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I just did final backups yesterday and this morning before wiping the disk and moving to freebsd, which intends to continue x11 support indefinitely |
| 2026-05-30 19:52:29 +0000 | <geekosaur> | (xmonad works fine there; it originated on netbsd and I've occasionally had to fight to keep people from submitting linux-only stuff; those can go into extras if at all) |
| 2026-05-30 19:56:33 +0000 | <Guest22> | that's history I didn't know. I use xmonad on arch for years but have to build stuff outside the package manager for reasons |
| 2026-05-30 19:57:34 +0000 | <geekosaur> | arch's haskell packaging is straight-up broken, so that's normal |
| 2026-05-30 19:58:05 +0000 | <geekosaur> | but before they broke it dons was using xmonad there |
| 2026-05-30 19:59:52 +0000 | <Guest22> | broken is an understatement. but since I mess with some stuff in the core xmonad repo I build from source anyway. |
| 2026-05-30 20:10:50 +0000 | td_ | (~td@i53870907.versanet.de) |