| 2024-05-07 00:32:23 +0200 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) (Quit: getting boxed in) |
| 2024-05-07 01:28:50 +0200 | <liskin> | acidbong: there was a PR related to this as well, it might still be open |
| 2024-05-07 01:29:38 +0200 | <liskin> | Somehow I've never really found this to be a problem so that's probably why there's little motivation to fix it |
| 2024-05-07 01:30:08 +0200 | <liskin> | acidbong: can you perhaps share what's the usecase where it matters? |
| 2024-05-07 01:30:25 +0200 | <liskin> | (I'll head to bed soon but I'll be around tomorrow) |
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| 2024-05-07 07:39:55 +0200 | <Solid> | No borders no problem :] |
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| 2024-05-07 08:39:10 +0200 | <acidbong> | anyway, liskin, screenshots are incoming |
| 2024-05-07 08:39:11 +0200 | <acidbong> | the one with an orange/black bar is DWM, notice the even padding in the floating terminal (I specifically set it to 2 px): DWM seems to draw borders outside of the window |
| 2024-05-07 08:39:11 +0200 | <acidbong> | the one with a monotone bar is Xmonad, notice that the padding in the floating terminal got all weird: the terminal already set the size 140x38 characters, but Xmonad seems to "eat out" the window with its borders |
| 2024-05-07 08:39:45 +0200 | <acidbong> | https://uploads.hmm.st/acidbong/e9mUjPNkG69p/sqrt-20240507_092348.png |
| 2024-05-07 08:39:45 +0200 | <acidbong> | https://uploads.hmm.st/acidbong/FixzrLE9ChRF/sqrt-20240507_093303.png |
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| 2024-05-07 09:02:02 +0200 | <acidbong> | this comment (https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/207#issuecomment-642626754) shows exactly how Xmonad shapes windows |
| 2024-05-07 09:02:22 +0200 | defjam | (~defjam@2a02:c7e:2807:b900:19c6:3bfe:1d9d:c22e) |
| 2024-05-07 09:06:41 +0200 | <acidbong> | i'll test with a workaround from #198's penultimate comment |
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| 2024-05-07 11:28:27 +0200 | <liskin> | acidbong: strange, if I ask urxvt to open a 80x24 terminal, and ask xmonad for the next window to be floating, I get a 80x24 terminal |
| 2024-05-07 11:29:01 +0200 | <liskin> | it'd be 79x23 with a big black padding if things weren't working as they should, right? |
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| 2024-05-07 11:40:07 +0200 | <liskin> | but yeah with xeyes I do get a window that isn't large enough, hm |
| 2024-05-07 11:45:33 +0200 | <liskin> | hm, right, floatLocation does account for borders, but it fails to account for the fact that initially the window doesn't have borders but then xmonad adds borders laters |
| 2024-05-07 12:05:34 +0200 | defjam | (~defjam@2a02:c7e:2807:b900:19c6:3bfe:1d9d:c22e) |
| 2024-05-07 12:05:37 +0200 | ChubaDuba_ | (~ChubaDuba@5.167.114.29) (Quit: Leaving) |
| 2024-05-07 12:05:48 +0200 | <liskin> | well anyway, I'm looking into it :-) |
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| 2024-05-07 12:49:43 +0200 | mekeor | (~user@2001:a61:10ae:1901:3241:bc6e:53bb:fccc) |
| 2024-05-07 12:50:13 +0200 | <liskin> | the "workaround from #198's penultimate comment" is a dead end, it's crap that happens to kinda work totally accidentally and might/will break things |
| 2024-05-07 12:52:23 +0200 | <liskin> | the real issue is that floatLocation only takes into account the current border width, which is 0 when it's first invoked, but then xmonad adds borders and the float size isn't adjusted |
| 2024-05-07 12:53:19 +0200 | <liskin> | floatLocation could theoretically use the future border width, but we don't really know what's it gonna be because there's all sorts of xmonad-contrib modules messing up with border width |
| 2024-05-07 12:54:11 +0200 | <liskin> | so I'm thinking a manageHook that adjusts the float location but lets you skip that adjustment if you know other parts of your manageHook/layoutHook will clear the borders |
| 2024-05-07 12:54:24 +0200 | <liskin> | should be easy to do… later today |
| 2024-05-07 13:02:48 +0200 | <liskin> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/207 is an alternative - but it's ugly because now Rectangle means something else for floating and non-floating windows, so if one grabs a tiled window and starts moving it somewhere, it'll resize |
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| 2024-05-07 14:04:00 +0200 | <acidbong> | speaking of future events: `willFloat` is already a convenient identifier and is present in the core Xmonad |
| 2024-05-07 14:04:13 +0200 | <acidbong> | maybe it can be used? |
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| 2024-05-07 16:41:30 +0200 | <liskin> | it can be used but it's not actually needed |
| 2024-05-07 16:43:11 +0200 | <liskin> | although… manageHooks are a weird beast… |
| 2024-05-07 16:44:15 +0200 | <liskin> | but the Endo WindowSet part of the managehook is executed _after_ manage made the window floating, so we don't need to guess, we know whether the window is or isn't floating |
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| 2024-05-07 18:54:57 +0200 | <liskin> | acidbong: what you mean by "no longer works in xmonad v0.17.2" exactly? |
| 2024-05-07 18:56:41 +0200 | <liskin> | oh, it indeed doesn't, lol |
| 2024-05-07 18:56:58 +0200 | <acidbong> | I patched xmonad (luckily with nixos it's easy), rebuild with a short config (only set the terminal, mod4Mask and a floating rule for a terminal with Ranger in it) and tried launching a floating terminal |
| 2024-05-07 18:57:12 +0200 | <liskin> | and you got the same size as without the patch |
| 2024-05-07 18:57:20 +0200 | <liskin> | right, I just tried it as well :-) |
| 2024-05-07 18:57:24 +0200 | <acidbong> | yup |
| 2024-05-07 18:57:39 +0200 | <acidbong> | i mean, it's 4 years old, many things changed |
| 2024-05-07 18:57:49 +0200 | <liskin> | I was so invested into understanding why the fuck it doesn't crash xmonad I forgot to check whether it does anything at all |
| 2024-05-07 18:58:54 +0200 | <liskin> | that also probably means my understanding of why it works is wrong |
| 2024-05-07 18:59:22 +0200 | <liskin> | or something :-) |
