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2024-06-25 04:52:21 +0200td_(~td@i53870933.versanet.de)
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2024-06-25 02:57:21 +0200 <geekosaur> but many programs might not bother having both paths since it has to fall back to XQueryTree if _NET_CLIENT_LIST isn't in _NET_SUPPORTED or not present on the root window
2024-06-25 02:56:22 +0200 <geekosaur> actually it looks like it can get a window list from _NET_CLIENT_LIST on the root window, but it still has to query them for _NET_WM_DESKTOP to see where they are
2024-06-25 02:46:58 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> From what I'm seeing in the polybar source, it seems to use the XQueryTree.
2024-06-25 02:46:19 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> I see.
2024-06-25 02:46:01 +0200 <geekosaur> when you use xmonad's PP instead of EWMH, xmonad can query the Stack of each workspace; programs that use EWMH have to use XQueryTree and then query every top level window returned
2024-06-25 02:44:40 +0200 <geekosaur> it's kinda backwards. there's no mater list; every client has a _NET_WM_DESKTOP with the EWMH workspace number (index into _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES) as its value
2024-06-25 02:39:52 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> Is there just some property of the root window I can query?
2024-06-25 02:39:37 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> How exactly does ewmh work? How does xmonad set which workspaces have windows on them?
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2024-06-24 21:49:44 +0200 <haskellbridge> <lush> thanks!
2024-06-24 21:49:41 +0200 <haskellbridge> and it works for me too now, I realised that I made a stupid mistake in my config...
2024-06-24 21:49:41 +0200 <haskellbridge> <lush> yeah, I intend mod-s return
2024-06-24 21:48:55 +0200 <geekosaur> just to be certain, you intend mod-s return, not mod-shift-return?
2024-06-24 21:44:46 +0200 <geekosaur> seems to work here
2024-06-24 21:38:37 +0200 <haskellbridge> <lush> Is it possible to set a Keybinding to "M-s <Return>"? It doesn't seem to work for me...
2024-06-24 20:46:18 +0200 <liskin> (also I don't really have much time besides day job and hobbies)
2024-06-24 20:45:41 +0200 <liskin> But I have so many missions I'm unlikely to make much progress on any :-(
2024-06-24 20:45:39 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> Ah. Yeah... that makes sense. I just refactored my config to no longer use X.C
2024-06-24 20:45:14 +0200 <liskin> If anything, my mission was using ExtensibleConf to make more stuff extensible as is
2024-06-24 20:45:07 +0200 <geekosaur> XMonad.Config
2024-06-24 20:45:00 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> What is X.C?
2024-06-24 20:44:32 +0200 <liskin> I don't think it was me who wanted X.C to go away but yeah they aren't particularly extensible
2024-06-24 20:43:52 +0200 <liskin> Blah, touch keyboards, let's try again
2024-06-24 20:43:38 +0200 <liskin> Don't
2024-06-24 20:43:34 +0200 <liskin> I do
2024-06-24 20:32:30 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> I just switched to this, which does the same thing, but now I don't need to remember to add the default hooks! YAY. https://paste.tomsmeding.com/1oFk2cye
2024-06-24 20:21:46 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> You're right... I literally don't need it.
2024-06-24 20:19:50 +0200 <geekosaur> and misses some things you probably want
2024-06-24 20:19:41 +0200 <geekosaur> X.C.Desktop itself in particular doesn't do anything you can't do with a couple combinators
2024-06-24 20:19:15 +0200 <geekosaur> Possibly replacing them, but as is they're somewhat problematic, so yes
2024-06-24 20:15:16 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> Oh, liskin wants to just remove the desktopConfigs?
2024-06-24 20:14:29 +0200 <geekosaur> I think liskin wants them to go away for that reason?
2024-06-24 20:14:24 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> There doesn't seem to be a function of the type "mkDesktopConfig :: Layout a => XConfig a -> XConfig a", so I'm having to do it this way.
2024-06-24 20:14:01 +0200 <geekosaur> I think we have an open ticket about that
2024-06-24 20:13:53 +0200 <geekosaur> yes, that's the problem with the desktop configs
2024-06-24 20:12:12 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> See, the example here also requires you to remember to put in all the hooks yourself: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.0/docs/XMonad-Config-Desktop.html#g:3
2024-06-24 20:10:58 +0200 <geekosaur> I don't fullscreen stuff very often
2024-06-24 20:10:43 +0200 <geekosaur> altghough I should move ewmhFullscreen
2024-06-24 20:10:32 +0200 <geekosaur> yes, because debugManageHookOn happens to be safe
2024-06-24 20:09:53 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/hilfy-2023/xmonad.hs#L59
2024-06-24 20:09:52 +0200 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> You're also doing it before, I think...
2024-06-24 20:09:43 +0200 <geekosaur> you don't have to remember to put the hooks from `baseConfig` back in