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| 2024-06-24 18:27:06 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Does xmonad actually set "_NET_DESKTOP_NAMES"? |
| 2024-06-24 18:27:57 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Running "xprop -root _NET_SUPPORTED" shows that atom in the output list, but running "xprop -root _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES" gives "_NET_DESKTOP_NAMES: not found." |
| 2024-06-24 18:29:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's supposed to https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Hooks/EwmhDesktops.hs#L370 |
| 2024-06-24 18:30:44 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Hooks/EwmhDesktops.hs#L576-L583 |
| 2024-06-24 18:31:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hilfy «xmonad-contrib*debugEvents-fixes-2» ⁅xmonad-contrib⁆ Z$ xprop -root _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES |
| 2024-06-24 18:31:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES(UTF8_STRING) = "shell", "emacs", "mail", "irc", "keep", "dev", "windows", "crawl", "games", "spare", "calibre", "xmonadtrack", "spare1", "spare2", "spare3", "spare4", "NSP" |
| 2024-06-24 18:31:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I'm using this: https://dpaste.com/46MTUL64V |
| 2024-06-24 18:32:15 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> And then I'm layering my own changes on top of that. |
| 2024-06-24 18:32:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | looks correct to me |
| 2024-06-24 18:33:11 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Yeah... I know. |
| 2024-06-24 18:33:47 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> So why is "xprop" telling me that it can't find the things? |
| 2024-06-24 18:35:52 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Is this some weird NixOS specific bug? |
| 2024-06-24 18:40:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I have no idea. you might ask on e.g. reddit if other people have the problem |
| 2024-06-24 18:41:43 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Sure thing. |
| 2024-06-24 18:54:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I wonder if any other atoms are missing |
| 2024-06-24 18:55:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | unfortunately you can't just run through the list in _NET_SUPPORTED because some are root window properties, some are client window properties, and some are items in a client window's _NET_WM_STATE property |
| 2024-06-24 19:00:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I can tell you that "_NET_WM_NAME" isn't set for me either. |
| 2024-06-24 19:01:24 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I just made a reddit post. |
| 2024-06-24 19:02:45 +0200 | hightower2 | (~hightower@94.253.189.0) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2024-06-24 19:03:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> https://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/1dnigra/xmonad_polybar_and_nixos_woes/? |
| 2024-06-24 19:03:03 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> * https://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/1dnigra/xmonad_polybar_and_nixos_woes/ |
| 2024-06-24 19:03:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's a client window property, won't be set on root |
| 2024-06-24 19:04:26 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> What other properties should I check for? |
| 2024-06-24 19:05:25 +0200 | hightower2 | (~hightower@dh207-112-225.xnet.hr) |
| 2024-06-24 19:09:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | here's my root window list, pruned to EWMH properties |
| 2024-06-24 19:09:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/SXSBmVdz |
| 2024-06-24 19:10:48 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> How did you get that? "xprop -root"? |
| 2024-06-24 19:11:42 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> This is what I get from "xprop -root": https://paste.tomsmeding.com/uDqMEiuE |
| 2024-06-24 19:13:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | wow, you're missing a lot of stuff |
| 2024-06-24 19:14:03 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I know... |
| 2024-06-24 19:14:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | basically everything set by ewmh's loghook |
| 2024-06-24 19:14:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | can you check your X session log to make sure the logHook isn't throwing an exception? |
| 2024-06-24 19:15:18 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> ".xsession-errors" has a single line of text: "Environment variable $SSH_AUTH_SOCK not set, ignoring." |
| 2024-06-24 19:16:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | nixos may store the session log somewhere else (in particular, in systemd's logs meaning you would need to use journalctl) |
| 2024-06-24 19:16:07 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Guess who's a major idiot: https://gist.github.com/IQubic/70d20a41347a88577fecb50579e2f463#file-xmonad-hs-L229 |
| 2024-06-24 19:16:13 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (but I don't know details) |
| 2024-06-24 19:16:15 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> No... That's not the error. |
| 2024-06-24 19:16:33 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Look at the line I just linked to in my config. |
| 2024-06-24 19:16:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | no, the `ewmh` combinator adds to the `logHook` |
| 2024-06-24 19:16:43 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I'm literally never calling the exwmLogHook. |
| 2024-06-24 19:16:57 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Oh? |
| 2024-06-24 19:17:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you don't need to do it yourself and you'll get a deprecation warning if you do |
| 2024-06-24 19:17:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | pointing you to the `ewmh` combinator |
| 2024-06-24 19:19:16 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Yes, I know that. But I'm taking the baseconfig, and replacing the entire logHook with one that only runs dynamicLogWithPP. |
| 2024-06-24 19:19:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | nope, ewmh applies _after_ your config |
| 2024-06-24 19:19:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it appends to it |
| 2024-06-24 19:19:58 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Oh? |
| 2024-06-24 19:20:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that's the whole point, we're moving away from "list a lot of hooks yourself" to "list a combinator that appends to your config" |
| 2024-06-24 19:21:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | especially for things like ewmh that need to modify multiple hooks to work right (startupHook, logHook, handleEventHook, etc.) |
| 2024-06-24 19:23:11 +0200 | ft | (~ft@p3e9bcb39.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2024-06-24 19:44:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | fwiw, it looks like on nixos you want `journalctl -t xsession` |
| 2024-06-24 19:44:44 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Yeah, it literally wasn't running the ewmh logHook. |
| 2024-06-24 19:58:03 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Is it possible to modify the ewmhLogHook so it doesn't output info about named scratchpad workspaces? |
| 2024-06-24 19:59:57 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar-PP.html#v:fi… |
| 2024-06-24 20:02:34 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Yeah, but I'm trying to get the ewmhLogHook to not set a _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES value for named scratchpads. I'm not using a PP. I'm telling polybar to just read the _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES property of the root window. |
| 2024-06-24 20:03:34 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Well, currently I am, but I'm planning on not doing that in the future. |
| 2024-06-24 20:05:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-EwmhDesktops.html#g:3 |
| 2024-06-24 20:05:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | where it's the second example |
| 2024-06-24 20:06:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Thanks. |
| 2024-06-24 20:07:50 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Also, I fixed my logHook issues by using this line: "logHook = logHook baseConfig <> dynamicLogWithPP (myXMobarPP xmproc)" |
| 2024-06-24 20:08:10 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> It literally wasn't running the ewhm logHook. |
| 2024-06-24 20:08:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | oh, right, you aren't doing things the way we expect. `ewmh`, `docks`, etc. should apply _after_ your config, not before, but that's what your `baseConfig` is doing |
| 2024-06-24 20:09:20 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Oh? If I do it after will it work better? |
| 2024-06-24 20:09:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you don't have to remember to put the hooks from `baseConfig` back in |
| 2024-06-24 20:09:52 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> You're also doing it before, I think... |
| 2024-06-24 20:09:53 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/hilfy-2023/xmonad.hs#L59 |
| 2024-06-24 20:10:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, because debugManageHookOn happens to be safe |
| 2024-06-24 20:10:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | altghough I should move ewmhFullscreen |
| 2024-06-24 20:10:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I don't fullscreen stuff very often |
| 2024-06-24 20:12:12 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> See, the example here also requires you to remember to put in all the hooks yourself: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.0/docs/XMonad-Config-Desktop.html#g:3 |
| 2024-06-24 20:13:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, that's the problem with the desktop configs |
| 2024-06-24 20:14:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think we have an open ticket about that |
| 2024-06-24 20:14:24 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> There doesn't seem to be a function of the type "mkDesktopConfig :: Layout a => XConfig a -> XConfig a", so I'm having to do it this way. |
| 2024-06-24 20:14:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think liskin wants them to go away for that reason? |
| 2024-06-24 20:15:16 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Oh, liskin wants to just remove the desktopConfigs? |
| 2024-06-24 20:19:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | Possibly replacing them, but as is they're somewhat problematic, so yes |
| 2024-06-24 20:19:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | X.C.Desktop itself in particular doesn't do anything you can't do with a couple combinators |
| 2024-06-24 20:19:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and misses some things you probably want |
| 2024-06-24 20:21:46 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> You're right... I literally don't need it. |
| 2024-06-24 20:32:30 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I just switched to this, which does the same thing, but now I don't need to remember to add the default hooks! YAY. https://paste.tomsmeding.com/1oFk2cye |
| 2024-06-24 20:43:34 +0200 | <liskin> | I do |
| 2024-06-24 20:43:38 +0200 | <liskin> | Don't |
| 2024-06-24 20:43:52 +0200 | <liskin> | Blah, touch keyboards, let's try again |
| 2024-06-24 20:44:32 +0200 | <liskin> | I don't think it was me who wanted X.C to go away but yeah they aren't particularly extensible |
| 2024-06-24 20:45:00 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> What is X.C? |
| 2024-06-24 20:45:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | XMonad.Config |
| 2024-06-24 20:45:14 +0200 | <liskin> | If anything, my mission was using ExtensibleConf to make more stuff extensible as is |
| 2024-06-24 20:45:39 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Ah. Yeah... that makes sense. I just refactored my config to no longer use X.C |
| 2024-06-24 20:45:41 +0200 | <liskin> | But I have so many missions I'm unlikely to make much progress on any :-( |
| 2024-06-24 20:46:18 +0200 | <liskin> | (also I don't really have much time besides day job and hobbies) |
| 2024-06-24 21:38:37 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <lush> Is it possible to set a Keybinding to "M-s <Return>"? It doesn't seem to work for me... |
| 2024-06-24 21:44:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | seems to work here |
| 2024-06-24 21:48:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | just to be certain, you intend mod-s return, not mod-shift-return? |
| 2024-06-24 21:49:41 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <lush> yeah, I intend mod-s return |
| 2024-06-24 21:49:41 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | and it works for me too now, I realised that I made a stupid mistake in my config... |
| 2024-06-24 21:49:44 +0200 | <haskellbridge> | <lush> thanks! |