2024/01/15

2024-01-15 00:38:37 +0000 <guest912> Yeah, “insertPosition Below Newer” does exactly what I wanted
2024-01-15 00:57:19 +0000 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-25 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/tree/dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-25
2024-01-15 00:57:24 +0000 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: pull/487 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/487
2024-01-15 01:07:25 +0000 <xmonadtrack> xmonad dependabot[bot] {Brandon S Allbery KF8NH} * v0.17.2-113-g765e059: build(deps): bump cachix/install-nix-action from 24 to 25 (14 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/765e05947060
2024-01-15 02:22:29 +0000[Leary](~Leary]@user/Leary/x-0910699)
2024-01-15 03:04:37 +0000td_(~td@i5387090D.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2024-01-15 03:06:08 +0000td_(~td@i53870915.versanet.de)
2024-01-15 04:03:04 +0000td_(~td@i53870915.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2024-01-15 04:03:41 +0000tv(~tv@user/tv) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2024-01-15 04:04:13 +0000td_(~td@i5387093B.versanet.de)
2024-01-15 04:18:04 +0000tv(~tv@user/tv)
2024-01-15 05:38:40 +0000ft(~ft@p4fc2a1d8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: leaving)
2024-01-15 05:49:31 +0000berberman_(~berberman@user/berberman) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in)
2024-01-15 05:49:52 +0000berberman(~berberman@user/berberman)
2024-01-15 09:01:49 +0000hightower2(~hightower@244-36.dsl.iskon.hr) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2024-01-15 09:47:27 +0000cfricke(~cfricke@user/cfricke)
2024-01-15 14:18:17 +0000amenonsen(~amenonsen@pitta.toroid.org) (Remote host closed the connection)
2024-01-15 14:19:11 +0000amenonsen(~amenonsen@pitta.toroid.org)
2024-01-15 15:44:52 +0000 <guest912> What XMonad.StackSet.delete actually does? Does it natively close the window or just removes it from internal XMonad handling?
2024-01-15 16:03:56 +0000 <[Leary]> guest912: You can tell from the type: it does not produce an IO or X action, only a (pure) StackSet modifying function. So it can't do any window-closing IO, it can only adjust xmonad's internal model.
2024-01-15 16:07:27 +0000cfricke(~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Quit: WeeChat 4.1.2)
2024-01-15 16:07:36 +0000 <guest912> [Leary], I could also assume that XMonad internally would trigger a close for a window as long as it does not find it in the stack
2024-01-15 16:07:53 +0000 <guest912> So I would not say it’s that obvious.
2024-01-15 16:09:00 +0000 <guest912> If you just modify the stack and reorder the windows XMonad will reposition them, change their dimensions, etc. It’s a clear X11 side effect.
2024-01-15 16:09:52 +0000 <guest912> So XMonad observes the stack on commits side effects based on the state. Could be the same for windows disappearing from the stack.
2024-01-15 16:10:34 +0000 <guest912> I mean, the side effects DO happen on windows disappering from the stack. They are hiding from the screen.
2024-01-15 16:11:02 +0000 <guest912> The the only question is — are those windows actually closed (is this side-effect included) or not
2024-01-15 16:11:59 +0000 <geekosaur> no, it just means xmonad will forget the window exists
2024-01-15 16:13:39 +0000 <guest912> geekosaur, I applied “delete” in the ManageHook to a window and it disappeared from the screen. Maybe it just did not show up in the first place.
2024-01-15 16:14:02 +0000 <guest912> Probably if I do it later (instead of doing it in the ManageHook) it will stay on the screen.
2024-01-15 16:16:13 +0000 <geekosaur> did it disappear or was it ever mapped? manageHook tells xmonad if/how/where to map windows, so if you delete it it just doesn't map it at all
2024-01-15 16:21:15 +0000 <[Leary]> guest912: You probably want `doIgnore`, which maps the window itself. `windows` will hide any window you tell it to delete.
2024-01-15 16:21:54 +0000 <guest912> geekosaur, yeah, this is my assumption, it was just never mapped.
2024-01-15 16:23:21 +0000 <guest912> I noticed that Rofi window does not obey any XMonad rules in a way. So it’s somehow a special window.
2024-01-15 16:23:29 +0000 <guest912> Does it tell XMonad somehow to ignore it?
2024-01-15 16:24:05 +0000 <geekosaur> yes, it's a dock and sets strut properties
2024-01-15 16:24:30 +0000 <geekosaur> oh, no, it's override-redirect
2024-01-15 16:24:47 +0000 <geekosaur> there are various ways to override xmonad's normal handling
2024-01-15 16:25:45 +0000 <geekosaur> a fixed size window will be floated. xmonad ever even finds out about override-redirect windows; the window must manage itself. dock windows with struts manage themselves and tell xmonad where they are so they won't be overdrawn
2024-01-15 16:31:43 +0000 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-25 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/tree/dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-25
2024-01-15 16:31:49 +0000 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/862 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/862
2024-01-15 16:41:50 +0000 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib dependabot[bot] {Tomas Janousek} * v0.17.1-247-g2272691a: build(deps): bump cachix/install-nix-action from 24 to 25 (11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/2272691ada6c
2024-01-15 17:32:15 +0000ft(~ft@p4fc2a1d8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2024-01-15 17:43:20 +0000guest912(~wenzel@dl40mv8f3blcv0qzxl2dy-3.rev.dnainternet.fi) (Quit: Leaving)
2024-01-15 22:04:30 +0000CyberTrekker(~cybertrek@user/CyberTrekker)
2024-01-15 22:30:15 +0000incertia(~incertia@209.122.137.252) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in)
2024-01-15 22:30:36 +0000incertia(~incertia@209.122.137.252)
2024-01-15 22:43:45 +0000bsima(~bsima@143.198.118.179) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in)
2024-01-15 22:44:05 +0000bsima(~bsima@2604:a880:400:d0::19f1:7001)
2024-01-15 22:50:21 +0000mml(~mml@164.92.108.41) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2024-01-15 22:51:04 +0000incertia(~incertia@209.122.137.252) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2024-01-15 22:51:06 +0000mml(~mml@164.92.108.41)
2024-01-15 22:51:25 +0000xmonadtrack(~xmonadtra@user/geekosaur/bot/xmonadtrack) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2024-01-15 22:52:32 +0000incertia(~incertia@209.122.137.252)
2024-01-15 22:52:37 +0000haskellbridge(~haskellbr@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2024-01-15 22:52:38 +0000justache(~justache@user/justache) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2024-01-15 22:53:26 +0000justache(~justache@user/justache)
2024-01-15 22:53:57 +0000bsima(~bsima@2604:a880:400:d0::19f1:7001) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in)
2024-01-15 22:54:17 +0000bsima(~bsima@2604:a880:400:d0::19f1:7001)
2024-01-15 22:59:00 +0000xmonadtrack(~xmonadtra@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com)
2024-01-15 22:59:00 +0000xmonadtrack(~xmonadtra@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com) (Changing host)
2024-01-15 22:59:00 +0000xmonadtrack(~xmonadtra@user/geekosaur/bot/xmonadtrack)
2024-01-15 23:03:37 +0000Benzi-Junior(~BenziJuni@88-149-65-224.du.xdsl.is) (*.net *.split)
2024-01-15 23:03:58 +0000justache-(~justache@user/justache)
2024-01-15 23:04:25 +0000justache(~justache@user/justache) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2024-01-15 23:04:46 +0000haskellbridge(~haskellbr@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com)
2024-01-15 23:04:58 +0000Benzi-Junior(~BenziJuni@88-149-65-224.du.xdsl.is)
2024-01-15 23:49:19 +0000guest912(~wenzel@dl5fq-8yqkt42rsn1837y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi)