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2023-09-19 07:41:04 +0200 <haskellbridge> <g​alactic_starfish> What happened to lambdabot?
2023-09-19 09:06:34 +0200cfricke(~cfricke@user/cfricke)
2023-09-19 09:40:51 +0200 <Solid> lambdabot is still here and doing fine
2023-09-19 09:40:56 +0200 <Solid> but it was never a bridge to matrix
2023-09-19 09:41:39 +0200 <Solid> AFAIK what happened is that the Libera people asked matrix.org to discontinue the unconditional bridging of all Libera.chat IRC channels
2023-09-19 09:41:55 +0200 <Solid> There's a new system now, I think; haven't looked into it too deeply
2023-09-19 10:20:44 +0200 <liskin> Solid: what new system?
2023-09-19 10:25:34 +0200 <Solid> liskin: https://www.matrix.org/blog/2023/07/make-sure-libera-bridge-keeps-working/
2023-09-19 10:25:45 +0200 <Solid> apparently there is now a concept of a "plumbed room"
2023-09-19 10:26:00 +0200 <liskin> Solid: there's always been that concept actually
2023-09-19 10:26:13 +0200 <liskin> #xmonad:matrix.org is a plumbed room
2023-09-19 10:27:00 +0200 <Solid> huh, curious
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2023-09-19 10:28:03 +0200 <liskin> I set it up that way because it used to be a normal Matrix room that people would find in the search and then be confused why none of us is there
2023-09-19 10:28:18 +0200 <liskin> plumbing turns a normal Matrix room into a "bridged" one
2023-09-19 10:28:33 +0200 <liskin> but that no longer works because the entire matrix-libera bridge is shut down
2023-09-19 10:30:20 +0200 <liskin> hm, nheko does look a bit better than Element, yeah
2023-09-19 10:30:45 +0200 <liskin> pretty subpixel antialiased and positioned fonts of my choosing \o/
2023-09-19 10:31:08 +0200 <liskin> but it looks like a version 1.0 IRC client from the early 2000s
2023-09-19 10:31:18 +0200 <liskin> where nick colors
2023-09-19 10:31:50 +0200 <liskin> and yeah spaces work now too
2023-09-19 10:59:06 +0200mc47(~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47)
2023-09-19 11:51:57 +0200 <liskin> yeah, so, gomuks for actually chatting with people, nheko for doing stuff that gomuks can't do, and element as a fallback for the rest
2023-09-19 11:52:32 +0200 <liskin> wonderful. 5 stars for user experience, Matrix
2023-09-19 11:53:18 +0200 <liskin> now let's see if the Fediverse (Mastodon etc.) can be even worse than that :-D
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2023-09-19 17:17:52 +0200 <geekosaur> aaaand today setlocale builds unmodified with 9.8 again. I'm mystified. so is Kritzefitz. ???
2023-09-19 17:18:36 +0200 <liskin> Different snapshot of 9.8 I presume?
2023-09-19 17:18:51 +0200 <geekosaur> No changes over the past 3 weeks
2023-09-19 17:18:58 +0200 <geekosaur> still waiting on alpha4
2023-09-19 17:19:54 +0200 <geekosaur> and I'm sure I'm doing the same thing because I put it all in a cabal.project
2023-09-19 17:21:02 +0200 <geekosaur> only things I can figure are either 9.8 has a nondeterministic bug (seems really unlikely) or there's some very strange caching bug with my external drive (which also seems unlikely, except there have been a few other caching weirdnesses)
2023-09-19 17:23:28 +0200 <geekosaur> I guess I'll worry about it again if we get any reports about xmonad building with 9.8 in the wild
2023-09-19 17:32:54 +0200 <liskin> Hm, and same hsc2hs too?
2023-09-19 17:38:25 +0200 <geekosaur> shouldn't matter but yes
2023-09-19 17:38:33 +0200 <geekosaur> hsc2hs isn't involved with `deriving`
2023-09-19 17:59:54 +0200 <liskin> Yah but you mentioned having to use a different version than what ships with ghc
2023-09-19 17:59:59 +0200 <liskin> Or am I misremembering?
2023-09-19 18:01:30 +0200 <geekosaur> in both cases it's using the latest one from hackage. don't recall how to bend build-tool-depends to allow newer versions
2023-09-19 18:02:15 +0200 <geekosaur> in any case it's the same one
2023-09-19 18:04:10 +0200 <geekosaur> flushed everything and trying it again jic
2023-09-19 18:04:42 +0200 <geekosaur> and it succeeded again
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