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2023/07/27

2023-07-27 00:13:59 +0200 <absta[m]> Let me post the options when I get to my computer.
2023-07-27 00:14:12 +0200 <absta[m]> Hmm, what is blur?
2023-07-27 00:25:20 +0200 <geekosaur> I guess that means you weren't playing with it? search for it in the manpage
2023-07-27 00:38:37 +0200mncheckm(~mncheck@193.224.205.254) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2023-07-27 00:54:10 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> <absta[m]> "Hmm, what is blur?" <- as in ~--blur-method~, ~blur-background~ and etc.
2023-07-27 00:54:39 +0200 <absta[m]> I see, I am not using one. I suspect that shadow is overwriting the border
2023-07-27 00:55:56 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> absta[m]: Did you try disabling them and running picom? That could be the easiest way to find out
2023-07-27 00:56:16 +0200 <absta[m]> Let me try that
2023-07-27 01:36:10 +0200 <liskin> ChaoticMist[m]: I'm not coming back from my "vacation" any time soon I'm afraid
2023-07-27 01:37:56 +0200 <liskin> There was a period of time when I would have been able to review the PR provided someone took my simpler and more robust design and polished it, but these days I can't promise even that :-(
2023-07-27 01:38:27 +0200 <liskin> Still... it would be nice if someone did. It's not exactly rocket science.
2023-07-27 01:38:32 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: WTF is going on? Everything alright?
2023-07-27 01:39:03 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> BTW, I was just checking the status of the PR. Nothing serious tbh, so don't worry about it!
2023-07-27 01:39:42 +0200 <liskin> Just a very bad burnout, possibly depression.
2023-07-27 01:40:30 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: How long has this been going on for? And do you know when it started happening?
2023-07-27 01:40:47 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Also, have you talked to someone about it?
2023-07-27 01:40:50 +0200 <liskin> Been a year I guess, maybe two.
2023-07-27 01:41:19 +0200 <liskin> You'd expect to have sorted it out via doctors by now but I'm doing something wrong I guess
2023-07-27 01:41:51 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: I did not, because I know people who have gone for way longer than that without getting their depression cured.
2023-07-27 01:42:53 +0200 <liskin> They just keep telling me I need to wait for a diagnosis and that takes ages even with a private health insurance. If I was relying on the NHS it'd be literally years. Like... 5
2023-07-27 01:42:58 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: some people get addicted to the depressive state, other's avoid the answers they know would solve the issue
2023-07-27 01:43:19 +0200 <geekosaur> and even so only about a third of people respond to medication
2023-07-27 01:43:34 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Also, ending it is not an answer. That's just evading the issue. So please people, don't do something dumb like that.
2023-07-27 01:43:51 +0200 <liskin> Yeah, fun times still ahead.
2023-07-27 01:44:06 +0200 <liskin> But nowhere near ending it.
2023-07-27 01:44:10 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> geekosaur: I think it's even less than that tbh
2023-07-27 01:44:16 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: Good!
2023-07-27 01:44:18 +0200 <geekosaur> mine never expressed that way. I just withdrew into myself and couldn't do much of anything
2023-07-27 01:45:38 +0200 <absta[m]> Honestly burnout is normal
2023-07-27 01:45:46 +0200 <geekosaur> (but mine was side effect, really. being treated for the actual problem now, not perfectly but the depression's gone)
2023-07-27 01:45:47 +0200 <liskin> If it was that bad there'd be better options I'm sure. I can still quit the job, pack my stuff and go home and let an actual functioning EU healthcare system take care of me.
2023-07-27 01:46:02 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> (not bragging or something.. so do not take it the wrong way) I personally just "deleted" my older self and I find myself oftentimes not recalling older memories. So do not try that method
2023-07-27 01:46:41 +0200 <liskin> I'd love to delete my current self, if anything :-)
2023-07-27 01:46:48 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: Do you feel that the job is causing you depression?
2023-07-27 01:46:58 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: You'll forget to experience emotions too
2023-07-27 01:47:07 +0200 <liskin> ChaoticMist[m]: possibly
2023-07-27 01:47:44 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: Why not just quit? You don't have an infinite lifespan to continue with this shit..
2023-07-27 01:48:12 +0200 <liskin> ChaoticMist[m]: yeah that's a good question...
2023-07-27 01:48:34 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Are you afraid of rewarding your own self?
2023-07-27 01:48:37 +0200 <liskin> Mainly because last time I looked for a job in here everything was a bit shit
2023-07-27 01:48:41 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Because no one else will.
2023-07-27 01:49:05 +0200 <absta[m]> I've seen many people going burnout who are healthy otherwise, it could be a sign of being overworked imo
2023-07-27 01:49:15 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: Who gives a fuck? If you feel bad, fuck it. No matter what kind of job it is..
2023-07-27 01:49:38 +0200 <absta[m]> So I believe you do need to see which case it is
2023-07-27 01:49:41 +0200 <liskin> And also the health insurance is tied to it.
2023-07-27 01:49:50 +0200 <absta[m]> Reality is harsh.
2023-07-27 01:50:24 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> absta[m]: Personally, if a work place allows people to get overworked then I am not participating in it.
2023-07-27 01:50:38 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: Well, quit that too and just travel like you said you would?
2023-07-27 01:51:06 +0200 <liskin> (not US, so it's not critical, but I wanted to wrap up the diagnosis stuff and that needs the insurance)
2023-07-27 01:51:19 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> You won't have that ability forever..
2023-07-27 01:51:20 +0200 <absta[m]> True, but ehh.. those workplaces are just too common.
2023-07-27 01:51:20 +0200 <absta[m]> Hmmm
2023-07-27 01:51:20 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> absta[m]: Does not mean we should allow ourselves to be treated that way. If they are common then it means we enabled them.
2023-07-27 01:51:28 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: Do you feel like it's helping or just a waste of time?
2023-07-27 01:52:02 +0200 <liskin> ChaoticMist[m]: my wife's academic career would get in trouble if we moved, so it's a last resort
2023-07-27 01:52:29 +0200 <liskin> ChaoticMist[m]: so far waste of time but that's probably expected
2023-07-27 01:52:34 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: Do you think your wife would accept you travelling without her?
2023-07-27 01:52:36 +0200 <absta[m]> ChaoticMist[m]: Who are "we" though? Society is not monolithic, lots of people just follow the flow.
2023-07-27 01:52:40 +0200 <liskin> Just waiting and waiting
2023-07-27 01:52:51 +0200 <liskin> ChaoticMist[m]: I don't want to
2023-07-27 01:52:53 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> You can always take a break instead of moving
2023-07-27 01:52:58 +0200 <geekosaur> and I'm not sure it would help, you were having problems before you moved there
2023-07-27 01:53:17 +0200 <liskin> Were I?
2023-07-27 01:53:28 +0200 <geekosaur> yes
2023-07-27 01:53:34 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> geekosaur: Obviously
2023-07-27 01:53:45 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Since that's just a form of escape
2023-07-27 01:53:47 +0200 <liskin> I mean kind of, maybe, but how the hell do you know? :-D
2023-07-27 01:54:54 +0200 <geekosaur> should I go back through logs? this is not the first time you've discussed your problems here
2023-07-27 01:54:54 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Out of curiosity, did you experience any form of depressive thoughts when you were typing with us?
2023-07-27 01:55:16 +0200 <liskin> geekosaur: yeah but we moved at the end of 2019
2023-07-27 01:55:29 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> That's 4 years ago
2023-07-27 01:55:35 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Not 2
2023-07-27 01:55:41 +0200 <liskin> So that's about a year before I got seriously involved with xmonad
2023-07-27 01:56:02 +0200 <liskin> Whatever happened before that you wouldn't be aware of
2023-07-27 01:56:34 +0200 <liskin> ChaoticMist[m]: probably not? Dunno how I'd tell.
2023-07-27 01:56:52 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: Exactly, so there is something that is reminding you of your depression
2023-07-27 01:56:59 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Nail that down and then just avoid it?
2023-07-27 01:57:00 +0200 <geekosaur> mm, I think you have your chronology wrong because 4q 2019 was around when the revert war happened
2023-07-27 01:57:36 +0200 <geekosaur> and I'm fairly certain because I was homeless and trying to deal with my own problems and just locked up when it happened and byorgey had to bail us out
2023-07-27 02:00:07 +0200 <liskin> ChaoticMist[m]: the answer is probably "work" but it's difficult to avoid because bills and rent
2023-07-27 02:00:46 +0200 <liskin> Yeah I know it's technically possible to avoid all that it's just quite a bit far off my comfort zone now :-)
2023-07-27 02:01:12 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Understandable
2023-07-27 02:01:39 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Have you tried setting up your own business or something?
2023-07-27 02:01:43 +0200 <liskin> geekosaur: I'm sure it was later. I didn't get involved with xmonad until after I quit my job at the start of the pandemic, and that was 2020
2023-07-27 02:03:09 +0200 <liskin> I think I tried something very vaguely resembling exploring whether freelance might be for me, ages ago, and concluded not.
2023-07-27 02:03:48 +0200 <liskin> Anyway, I need to sleep otherwise another work day will be even worse than it could be
2023-07-27 02:04:02 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Goodnight!
2023-07-27 02:04:25 +0200 <liskin> Thanks for caring and trying to come up with ideas!
2023-07-27 02:04:52 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> liskin: Don't mention it, we are here for everyone!
2023-07-27 02:05:17 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Just remember that you are not alone in this world
2023-07-27 02:09:09 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> <geekosaur> "and I'm fairly certain because I..." <- How are you doing now? Hope everything is better with the housing issue you used to have
2023-07-27 02:10:07 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> I got housing little over 2 years ago I'm doing okay now
2023-07-27 02:11:30 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Good to hear that!
2023-07-27 02:11:39 +0200Guest667(~lol@211.sub-174-215-144.myvzw.com)
2023-07-27 02:11:41 +0200Guest667(~lol@211.sub-174-215-144.myvzw.com) (Excess Flood)
2023-07-27 02:13:38 +0200Guest667(~lol@211.sub-174-215-144.myvzw.com)
2023-07-27 02:13:59 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> Hm, voice typing on my watch butchered that a bit
2023-07-27 02:15:27 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> No worries ;)
2023-07-27 02:21:41 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> Anyway we're all a little broken around here, even if only situationally (mc47 got sandbagged by life)
2023-07-27 02:23:25 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> And that is just part of life I reckon, have yet to find someone who is completely happy in this world.. lol
2023-07-27 02:23:41 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> @absta:matrix.org did you manage to get picom working?
2023-07-27 02:23:41 +0200 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
2023-07-27 02:23:45 +0200 <absta[m]> So here's my picom.conf:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/b8b030e25a158e572eca6832e10910734cc4…>)
2023-07-27 02:24:12 +0200 <absta[m]> Could be a bit messy, as I am auto-generating it
2023-07-27 02:24:23 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> absta[m]: Nix?
2023-07-27 02:24:48 +0200 <absta[m]> No, programming & using my own settings manager program
2023-07-27 02:25:11 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Nix does all that :P
2023-07-27 02:26:10 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Did you try ~shadow = false~ ?
2023-07-27 02:26:21 +0200 <absta[m]> I am trying it now.
2023-07-27 02:31:18 +0200 <absta[m]> Turns out, shadow was not the culprit..
2023-07-27 02:32:27 +0200 <absta[m]> corner-radius wasn't, either.
2023-07-27 02:32:29 +0200 <geekosaur> you verified it works without picom/pijulius?
2023-07-27 02:33:33 +0200 <absta[m]> It worked when I fed picom the option -bcCGf, but let me check again.
2023-07-27 02:33:35 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> geekosaur: did not notice that absta was using a picom fork.. mb
2023-07-27 02:34:19 +0200 <absta[m]> I am using this one: <https://github.com/yshui/picom>
2023-07-27 02:34:24 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Why not just use https://github.com/dccsillag/picom ?
2023-07-27 02:34:32 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> That picom fork is working fine for me
2023-07-27 02:34:46 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Can paste my config to for you to test if you want
2023-07-27 02:35:11 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> absta[m]: That is not a fork, that is the official package
2023-07-27 02:35:12 +0200 <geekosaur> mostly I was checking there in case you actually got stuck with an older xmonad that has a bug in the border color interpolation used by WindowNavigation that nukes the borders
2023-07-27 02:35:40 +0200 <geekosaur> (0.17.0)
2023-07-27 02:35:43 +0200 <absta[m]> Oh, because I just downloaded it from package manager.
2023-07-27 02:36:35 +0200 <absta[m]> My freeze file says any.xmonad ==0.17.2, so it is likely up to date
2023-07-27 02:38:44 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> That is indeed weird..
2023-07-27 02:39:20 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Going to test your config brb
2023-07-27 02:39:52 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> It works fine??
2023-07-27 02:40:19 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Seems to me like your config is not the culprit of this..
2023-07-27 02:41:14 +0200 <absta[m]> picom -bcf --detect-rounded-corners -D 4 -I 0.02 -O 0.02 -e 0.8 works fine, it shows the xmonad's border.
2023-07-27 02:41:39 +0200 <absta[m]> But when I run picom with the previously specified configuration, it just doesn't.
2023-07-27 02:41:48 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> I only launched it with ~picom --config picom.conf~
2023-07-27 02:42:35 +0200 <absta[m]> Is -b option unnecessary?
2023-07-27 02:42:55 +0200 <geekosaur> -b just puts it in the background. if you're using spawn then it's redundant
2023-07-27 02:43:31 +0200 <absta[m]> ..So it is equivalent as `picom <options> &`? Hmmm
2023-07-27 02:43:50 +0200 <geekosaur> the main difference is one you probably don't care about
2023-07-27 02:44:21 +0200 <geekosaur> (shells track background processes with `&`, so you wouldn't be able to close a terminal you ran `picom … &` in)
2023-07-27 02:44:53 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> I am running it as a systemd service
2023-07-27 02:44:56 +0200 <absta[m]> Yea, but I spawn the bash script to run this soo
2023-07-27 02:45:15 +0200 <geekosaur> it's not interactive so `-o monitor` won't be set
2023-07-27 02:45:38 +0200 <absta[m]> Perhaps it is a fault of glx backend?
2023-07-27 02:45:52 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> There is a new backend btw
2023-07-27 02:45:53 +0200 <absta[m]> Actually let me try minimal example.
2023-07-27 02:45:55 +0200 <geekosaur> I use glx backend here with no problems
2023-07-27 02:46:01 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> And IIRC it was supposed to replace glx
2023-07-27 02:46:26 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> egl backend iirc
2023-07-27 02:46:34 +0200 <absta[m]> My VM does not seem to support egl, and I like testing my configuration in VM first.
2023-07-27 02:47:14 +0200 <geekosaur> mrrr. have you tried this outside the VM? window borders rely on non-buggy display drivers…
2023-07-27 02:47:40 +0200 <absta[m]> Ohh, actually
2023-07-27 02:47:43 +0200 <absta[m]> Let me try that.
2023-07-27 02:47:44 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> I don't even see a reason for using a VM for picom
2023-07-27 02:48:06 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> You can easily kill the process without having xmonad die on you
2023-07-27 02:48:16 +0200 <geekosaur> if anything I expect VM display drivers to meltdown with compositing
2023-07-27 02:48:26 +0200 <geekosaur> and especially with compositing via opengl
2023-07-27 02:49:04 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Nix is wonderful for this tbh! If it goes south, revert to older generation
2023-07-27 02:50:02 +0200 <absta[m]> I had to switch to xrender backend since picom leaks memory as hell on VM..
2023-07-27 02:53:11 +0200 <absta[m]> RIP
2023-07-27 02:53:15 +0200 <absta[m]> It works on real hardware..
2023-07-27 02:54:02 +0200 <absta[m]> But I am experiencing a weird flickering issue.
2023-07-27 02:54:59 +0200 <absta[m]> I suspect the borders
2023-07-27 02:55:05 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> because?
2023-07-27 02:55:19 +0200 <absta[m]> The flicker has the color of border.
2023-07-27 02:55:41 +0200 <absta[m]> That is, white and red on the place with border
2023-07-27 02:55:46 +0200 <absta[m]> Black on the place without.
2023-07-27 02:56:32 +0200 <geekosaur> odd
2023-07-27 02:56:36 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> What does picom tell you when you run it from the terminal?
2023-07-27 02:57:11 +0200 <absta[m]> Well just running picom gives [ 07/27/2023 09:56:53.351 session_init FATAL ERROR ] Another composite manager is already running obviously.
2023-07-27 02:57:25 +0200 <absta[m]> Or.. could you elaborate?
2023-07-27 02:57:45 +0200 <absta[m]> Actually let me try enabling vsync
2023-07-27 02:57:47 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Kill the running picom and run a new one from terminal
2023-07-27 02:58:46 +0200 <geekosaur> also note if the border flickering stops when you kill it…
2023-07-27 02:59:01 +0200 <absta[m]> It stops, indeed
2023-07-27 02:59:38 +0200 <geekosaur> weird
2023-07-27 03:00:47 +0200 <geekosaur> do you have --use-ewmh-active-win ?
2023-07-27 03:00:50 +0200 <absta[m]> Launched picom from terminal with just --backend glx. Flickering does not occur as well.
2023-07-27 03:01:37 +0200 <absta[m]> Yes I have --use-ewmh-active-win in my config file.
2023-07-27 03:02:10 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> hmmm
2023-07-27 03:02:18 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Does it complain about something?
2023-07-27 03:02:34 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> If not, try enabling disabling stuff and see what triggers it
2023-07-27 03:03:06 +0200 <absta[m]> It complains a lot, yep
2023-07-27 03:03:22 +0200 <absta[m]> Things like [ 07/27/2023 10:03:06.610 glx_bind_pixmap ERROR ] Failed to query info of pixmap 0x012006d2.
2023-07-27 03:03:34 +0200 <absta[m]> Or Xlib: ignoring invalid extension event 161
2023-07-27 03:04:07 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> I wonder if picom itself is behind this..
2023-07-27 03:04:35 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Haven't used latest (master) since I switched to this fork. Because of this, I cannot tell for sure..
2023-07-27 03:06:07 +0200 <absta[m]> Currently, I am using picom version 9.1
2023-07-27 03:06:13 +0200 <absta[m]> So.. not the latest either.
2023-07-27 03:07:25 +0200absta[m]sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/7d1ec4242d29675ec9d614d71af9f24f52b5…
2023-07-27 03:07:34 +0200 <absta[m]> This part is the problem, it starts flickering when I added this.
2023-07-27 03:08:03 +0200 <absta[m]> And without that part, it does not flicker
2023-07-27 03:08:37 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Try disabling the shadow
2023-07-27 03:08:56 +0200 <geekosaur> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/compton.conf#L27-L33 fwiw
2023-07-27 03:09:10 +0200 <geekosaur> (using with picom as shipped with ubuntu 22.04)
2023-07-27 03:09:21 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> woah
2023-07-27 03:09:23 +0200 <absta[m]> Pinpointed the culprit:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/6ea56eada8fd3fda0759beb9beab1734e1bb…>)
2023-07-27 03:09:47 +0200 <absta[m]> Idk what is wrong with tooltip..
2023-07-27 03:10:00 +0200 <absta[m]> Let me remove tooltip shadow.
2023-07-27 03:11:09 +0200 <absta[m]> What is picom doing with tooltip shadow? It was the problem!
2023-07-27 03:11:20 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> absta[m]: I KNEW IT!!
2023-07-27 03:11:28 +0200 <ChaoticMist[m]> Don't know the reason though :P
2023-07-27 03:12:24 +0200 <absta[m]> Yeah, it's weird
2023-07-27 03:16:37 +0200 <absta[m]> What is "_NET_WM_STATE@:a *= '_NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN'" for?
2023-07-27 03:17:12 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> Matches EWMH fullscreen windows
2023-07-27 03:18:22 +0200 <absta[m]> Ah, so removes shadowing effect when fullscreeen.
2023-07-27 03:18:40 +0200 <absta[m]> Can I make the xmonad border thicker? It is not easily visible on the round corners
2023-07-27 03:18:46 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> I don't want a fullscreen window to get dimmed when it loses focus
2023-07-27 03:19:23 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> Set `borderWidth` in your config
2023-07-27 03:19:56 +0200 <absta[m]> I see, thank you!
2023-07-27 03:21:13 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> You can see mine on GitHub (same repo as the `compton.conf`) where I set it to 2
2023-07-27 03:23:57 +0200 <absta[m]> Hmm, it seems to me that interaction between the xmonad borders and picom shadow is quite glitchy
2023-07-27 03:24:48 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> I've never found it so
2023-07-27 03:25:09 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> But I don't use rounded borders
2023-07-27 03:26:10 +0200 <absta[m]> I do not want to use rounded borders on tiled windows.
2023-07-27 03:26:15 +0200 <absta[m]> Is there a way for this?
2023-07-27 03:28:30 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/NYOZwkrd
2023-07-27 03:28:48 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> Damn what is this thing doing
2023-07-27 03:29:21 +0200 <absta[m]> Snippet..?
2023-07-27 03:29:38 +0200 <absta[m]> Sad that I cannot detect tiling
2023-07-27 03:29:43 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> I don't know why it insisted on sending it that way
2023-07-27 03:31:27 +0200 <absta[m]> So IRC bridge did that.. huh.
2023-07-27 03:31:46 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> Might be possible to use a hack involving TagWindows since that sets a window property you can test the same way that FULLSCREEN thing does
2023-07-27 03:32:40 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> Set a tag on non-floating windows in the `manageHook`
2023-07-27 03:33:16 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> There's a matcher `willFloat`
2023-07-27 03:34:04 +0200 <absta[m]> Thanks a lot!
2023-07-27 03:34:14 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> `fmap not willFloat --> liftX …`
2023-07-27 03:34:27 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> Will have to look up the rest
2023-07-27 03:36:43 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> The bridge didn't, the client on my phone kept sending me to a "text snippet" screen
2023-07-27 03:41:31 +0200 <geekosaur> `fmap not willFloat --> ask >>= liftX addTag >> idHook`
2023-07-27 03:41:54 +0200 <geekosaur> `import XMonad.Actions.TagWindows`
2023-07-27 03:41:58 +0200 <absta[m]> Ahh
2023-07-27 03:42:01 +0200 <geekosaur> sorry, forgot the actual tag
2023-07-27 03:42:13 +0200 <geekosaur> `fmap not willFloat --> ask >>= liftX (addTag "tiled") >> idHook`
2023-07-27 03:43:06 +0200absta[m]sent a hs code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/a864a402018a28a2dc5209000ac23613f5b5…
2023-07-27 03:45:50 +0200 <geekosaur> then you can use `_XMONAD_TAGS@:s *= "tiled"` in `picom.conf`
2023-07-27 03:46:52 +0200 <geekosaur> the second one won't be useful, if you need to update it after floating/tiling then you need code in `logHook` because `manageHook` won't be rerun
2023-07-27 03:48:34 +0200 <absta[m]> Oh, I see. Hm let me check
2023-07-27 03:49:09 +0200 <absta[m]> xprop is not showing the properties. Isn't ManageHook apply actions from front to back?
2023-07-27 03:50:16 +0200 <geekosaur> if you only did mod-q then existing windows won't go through the manageHook, only new ones
2023-07-27 03:51:24 +0200 <absta[m]> What is the order ManageHook apply the hooks? Front-to-back, or back-to-front?
2023-07-27 03:51:32 +0200 <absta[m]> Moving it to front seem to make it work.
2023-07-27 03:52:08 +0200 <geekosaur> back to front, since it's actually functions composed with (.) which is right associative
2023-07-27 03:52:43 +0200 <absta[m]> Oh.
2023-07-27 03:52:49 +0200 <absta[m]> I've been doing so many things wrong..
2023-07-27 03:55:19 +0200 <absta[m]> Hmm this is a bit confusing though. The WindowSet modification will run back to front, while the actions would be run front-to-back.
2023-07-27 03:55:41 +0200 <geekosaur> yes, it's rather confusing
2023-07-27 03:55:57 +0200 <[Leary]> "welcome to xmonad"
2023-07-27 03:56:03 +0200 <geekosaur> 🙂
2023-07-27 03:56:25 +0200 <absta[m]> Should I be rid of of xmonad /j
2023-07-27 03:57:16 +0200 <absta[m]> I am so confused. Should I put this tagging action in the front (first), or in the back (last)?
2023-07-27 03:57:31 +0200ft(~ft@p3e9bcc0e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2023-07-27 03:58:03 +0200 <absta[m]> Now floating windows are also reported as tiled..
2023-07-27 03:58:55 +0200ft(~ft@p3e9bc61e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2023-07-27 03:59:42 +0200 <geekosaur> how many windows to you explicitly float? `willFloat` only matches the windows that xmonad will automatically float, not ones you float in the manageHook
2023-07-27 04:01:45 +0200 <absta[m]> Hmm, quite a bit.
2023-07-27 04:02:30 +0200 <geekosaur> you may need to use composeOne from X.H.ManageHelpers to keep the willFloat rule from firing if another rule matches
2023-07-27 04:02:31 +0200 <absta[m]> Does xmonad automatically float some windows?
2023-07-27 04:02:41 +0200 <geekosaur> any window with a fixed size
2023-07-27 04:03:36 +0200 <geekosaur> it's getting late for me…
2023-07-27 04:05:19 +0200 <absta[m]> Good night!
2023-07-27 04:18:35 +0200td_(~td@i53870902.versanet.de) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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2023-07-27 04:24:22 +0200 <absta[m]> This is quite complex, perhaps I would do it later. Thanks a lot, everyone!
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2023-07-27 08:14:33 +0200 <Solid> why is github alerting me to CVEs from 6 years ago?
2023-07-27 08:14:38 +0200 <Solid> 🙃
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2023-07-27 09:32:41 +0200 <Solid> ChaoticMist[m]: I might be able to look at that PR on the weekend (no promises though)
2023-07-27 09:32:54 +0200 <Solid> it's true that it has been around for way too long at this point
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2023-07-27 20:54:37 +0200geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur)
2023-07-27 21:00:20 +0200xmonadtrack(~xmonadtra@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com)
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2023-07-27 21:00:20 +0200xmonadtrack(~xmonadtra@user/geekosaur/bot/xmonadtrack)
2023-07-27 21:00:55 +0200 <geekosaur> wheee, multihour power failure and the generator didn't come on so no backup power either
2023-07-27 21:17:27 +0200xmonadtrack(~xmonadtra@user/geekosaur/bot/xmonadtrack) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2023-07-27 21:17:39 +0200 <geekosaur[c]> Aaaaand the network has gone out now
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2023-07-27 22:00:08 +0200gauge(~gauge@user/gauge) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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