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2023-07-20 00:03:32 +0200sagax(~sagax_nb@user/sagax)
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2023-07-20 03:25:00 +0200 <absta[m]> geekosaur, why are the most Wayland compositors tightly coupled to window manager?
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2023-07-20 05:24:04 +0200 <liskin> yeah you wouldn't expect GNOME to bundle compositor+wm together because gnome-shell has been wildly unstable for years and leaks left and right
2023-07-20 05:24:17 +0200 <liskin> run it for a couple days and it slows down to a halt
2023-07-20 05:24:32 +0200 <liskin> surely that *needs* a way to be restarted without bringing the session down
2023-07-20 05:24:53 +0200 <liskin> but no if that happens you're probably using gnome wrong they'd say :-)
2023-07-20 08:20:54 +0200mncheckm(~mncheck@193.224.205.254)
2023-07-20 09:23:31 +0200 <geekosaur> actually they know about it and are working on ways to do the equivalent of our passing state to a new instance last I heard
2023-07-20 09:23:38 +0200 <geekosaur> rather than fixing the leaks
2023-07-20 09:25:14 +0200 <geekosaur> absta[m], I don't know. I think they overshot in the opposite direction from X11 because wayland encourages integrating a display client with a display server
2023-07-20 09:25:22 +0200 <geekosaur> but it is what it is
2023-07-20 09:27:15 +0200 <absta[m]> That explains it. Open source management seems hard, and this “hard” might be understatement
2023-07-20 09:33:23 +0200 <geekosaur> I'd just say software design is hard
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2023-07-20 16:30:52 +0200 <liskin> and so is life in general
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2023-07-20 21:06:47 +0200 <avesheher[m]> hiya
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