| 2023-07-18 01:08:56 +0000 | <jabuxas> | to explain a bit better the issue, when I click edit, it does go into edit mode, but as soon as my cursor touches the bar, it kicks me out of edit mode |
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| 2023-07-18 07:36:16 +0000 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-161-g5b5a5178: ci/stack: Add lts-21 resolver (2 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/5b5a51787ce8 |
| 2023-07-18 07:36:17 +0000 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-162-g34b544b7: ci/cabal: Bump GHC versions (2 days ago, 2 files, 13+ 13-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/34b544b7a17b |
| 2023-07-18 07:36:25 +0000 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-165-g7062b75e: Merge pull request #819 from slotThe/ci/bump (29 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/7062b75ea993 |
| 2023-07-18 07:41:21 +0000 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad Tony Zorman * v0.17.2-61-g9138046: ci/stack: Add lts-21 resolver (2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/9138046ec515 |
| 2023-07-18 07:41:22 +0000 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad Tony Zorman * v0.17.2-62-g0932779: ci/cabal: Bump GHC versions (2 days ago, 2 files, 13+ 13-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/0932779f15c7 |
| 2023-07-18 07:41:30 +0000 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.2-75-gf289b3b: Merge pull request #462 from slotThe/ci/bump (6 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/f289b3b1340b |
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| 2023-07-18 22:06:43 +0000 | <u8353v[m]> | <geekosaur> "well, some of them. if it..." <- no - i was told wayland is more secure than X11 |
| 2023-07-18 22:06:43 +0000 | <u8353v[m]> | but X11 just works! |
| 2023-07-18 22:06:43 +0000 | <u8353v[m]> | i want to know how can i harden it's security? |
| 2023-07-18 22:06:43 +0000 | <u8353v[m]> | or this comes down to hardening the OS? |
| 2023-07-18 22:08:18 +0000 | <geekosaur> | it needs a major server redesign, its security model is from the 1980s |
| 2023-07-18 22:08:32 +0000 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) |
| 2023-07-18 22:10:56 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I mean, even the IPC it uses is insecure, AF_UNIX sockets the only security is uid-based filesystem access and INET sockets even less. a modern protocol would take advantage of dbus, polkit, etc. |
| 2023-07-18 22:12:52 +0000 | <geekosaur> | any client with any kind of access to the server can observe any event not sent under a server grab, which means passwords can be sniffed by any process |
| 2023-07-18 22:15:59 +0000 | sagax | (~sagax_nb@user/sagax) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2023-07-18 22:16:35 +0000 | <geekosaur> | if you sit down and redesign X11 to fix its security flaws, multiscreen shortcomings, etc., you'll come out with something looking a lot like wayland-the-protocol |
| 2023-07-18 22:16:53 +0000 | <geekosaur> | it's wayland-the-implementation that I don't trust… |
| 2023-07-18 22:19:12 +0000 | <geekosaur> | well, I shouldn't say "don't trust", aside from stability. I question what they've done with what they have; it seems like wayland has failed to actually improve on X11 in many areas where it should easily be able to |
| 2023-07-18 22:19:23 +0000 | ft | (~ft@p3e9bc856.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2023-07-18 22:22:38 +0000 | <geekosaur> | I also have doubts about how far additional security will get you when people don't make use of it |
| 2023-07-18 22:43:55 +0000 | <geekosaur> | Don't get me wrong — I'd love to see someone pick up and modernize X11. I just think the result will be Wayland. |