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2023-06-12 06:04:43 +0000 <Solid> ChaoticMist[m]: guessing the type of withFocusedD, try something like http://ix.io/4y2t
2023-06-12 06:04:52 +0000 <Solid> This should at least have the original type signature
2023-06-12 06:06:23 +0000 <Solid> johnabs[m]: feel free to yell at me at some point if things broke :)
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2023-06-12 09:00:19 +0000 <HB|ANetworkECESI> I am going to try to use Chat GPT to teach me some Haskell.
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2023-06-12 10:30:35 +0000 <immibis> HB|ANetworkECESI: don't
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2023-06-12 20:43:38 +0000 <ke8cqc> I'm very new to xmonad and have no haskell programming experience. Here is a paste of the contents of my xmonad.hs and xmobar.conf files (both of which are in ~/.config/xmonad . I'm confused why xmobar isn't starting when xmonad starts. I can start it from the command line. Do I need to make an autostart file to do it? If so, how do I have xmonad.hs recognize the autostart file and what is the syntax to autostart
2023-06-12 20:43:38 +0000 <ke8cqc> xmobar???
2023-06-12 20:44:38 +0000 <geekosaur> usually it means however you're starting xmonad doesn't set $PATH, whereas your terminal does, so xmobar can't be found
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2023-06-12 20:45:15 +0000 <geekosaur> note that only fedora reads your shell dotfiles when starting an X session
2023-06-12 20:46:26 +0000 <geekosaur> (also I don't see your paste anywhere)
2023-06-12 20:46:51 +0000 <ke8cqc> Sorry. Here it is https://dpaste.com/7Q4ZTBWSR
2023-06-12 20:48:12 +0000 <ke8cqc> geekosaur - So I need to set $PATH is xmonad.hs???
2023-06-12 20:48:30 +0000 <geekosaur> or some other way, yes. unless xmobar is in /usr/bin
2023-06-12 20:49:07 +0000 <ke8cqc> xmobar is in /usr/bin .
2023-06-12 20:49:41 +0000 <geekosaur> hm
2023-06-12 20:49:48 +0000 <geekosaur> then you need to check your session log
2023-06-12 20:50:43 +0000 <ke8cqc> Could I possibly set $PATH in /etc/xsessions/xmobar.desktop?
2023-06-12 20:51:12 +0000 <geekosaur> usually that's ~/.xsession-errors but some display managers put it elsewhere (e.g. ~/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log) and some systems stuff it in journald
2023-06-12 20:51:20 +0000 <geekosaur> not usually
2023-06-12 20:51:34 +0000 <geekosaur> when it says "exec" it means it
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2023-06-12 20:54:15 +0000 <ke8cqc> Here's the contents of my .xsession-errors: https://dpaste.com/5SQVDYV6C
2023-06-12 20:56:20 +0000 <ke8cqc> I'm not sure what to do with this...
2023-06-12 20:59:11 +0000 <ke8cqc> I've installed xmonad and xmobar from the Gentoo repos.
2023-06-12 21:00:34 +0000 <geekosaur[m]> That looks like it didn't even try to run xmobar
2023-06-12 21:01:02 +0000 <ke8cqc> IDK.
2023-06-12 21:01:49 +0000 <ke8cqc> There's something that isn't right.
2023-06-12 21:04:03 +0000 <geekosaur[m]> Hm. Your layout doesn't include avoidStruts. Could be xmobar is running but covered by windows
2023-06-12 21:04:56 +0000 <ke8cqc> I got nothing... I'm running off a tutorial that assumes the user has no xmonad or haskell experience. This is the tutorial page I'm using: https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
2023-06-12 21:05:18 +0000 <ke8cqc> IDK
2023-06-12 21:06:13 +0000 <ke8cqc> On workspaces with no windows it doesn't show, so I'd probably say no.
2023-06-12 21:07:02 +0000 <ke8cqc> What is avoidStruts?
2023-06-12 21:14:06 +0000 <geekosaur> it tells xmonad to leave room for dock windows
2023-06-12 21:17:57 +0000 <ke8cqc> Do I just do include avoidStruts at the top of xmonad.hs???
2023-06-12 21:21:34 +0000 <geekosaur> nope
2023-06-12 21:22:07 +0000 <geekosaur> but apparently it's included in `withEasySB`; I'm not sure I like that, it means you can't do clever things like have it active only on some workspaces
2023-06-12 21:22:10 +0000 <geekosaur> guess it
2023-06-12 21:22:21 +0000 <geekosaur> 's a good thing I can't use withEasySB in my own config
2023-06-12 21:23:49 +0000 <ke8cqc> I'll have to do some googling around. Maybe I'll find an answer that way.
2023-06-12 21:25:43 +0000 <geekosaur> you would put it on line 45 in your original paste
2023-06-12 21:26:07 +0000 <geekosaur> avoidStruts (tiled ||| Mirror tiled ||| Full ||| threeCol)
2023-06-12 21:26:14 +0000 <geekosaur> but apparently it won't help
2023-06-12 21:26:24 +0000 <geekosaur> if you';re not seeing xmobar on an empty workspace
2023-06-12 21:30:02 +0000 <ke8cqc> Yeah that's not the issue.
2023-06-12 21:36:51 +0000 <ke8cqc> I need to walk away from this. I have another working window manager on this machine, so getting xmonad working correctly isn't critical. I'll be back in here to bang on it again soon.
2023-06-12 21:36:57 +0000 <ke8cqc> Thanks for the suggestions.
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2023-06-12 22:16:07 +0000 <liskin> Hm looks like my trip to ZuriHac will be a bit cheaper than expected \o/
2023-06-12 22:16:42 +0000 <liskin> The downside being that I'm not getting any sleep today because this bloody Euronight train is no longer a sleeper train
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