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| 2023-03-08 07:56:21 +0100 | <Solid> | liskin: All of the other things I mostly do with X.P. (that reminds me that I've always wanted to clean up that mess…) or Emacs (in the case of emoji entry), but that "focusing a browser tab by title" sounds really interesting; do you know how that's implemented? |
| 2023-03-08 08:07:59 +0100 | incertia | (~incertia@209.122.71.127) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 2023-03-08 08:14:21 +0100 | <Solid> | In other news: what do people think about https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/793#issuecomment-1459627557 ? The tl;dr is that X.L.Cross has not been touched in any significant way since 2009 and it just seems to have bitrotted to a point of near uselessness by now, so I'd just like to deprecate the module alltogether |
| 2023-03-08 08:31:47 +0100 | <geekosaur> | what are the alternatives you mentioned? |
| 2023-03-08 08:32:04 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (I'm having a white night, it's 0230 here) |
| 2023-03-08 08:35:06 +0100 | <Solid> | I was thinking along the lines of ThreeColumns, CenteredSingle (granted, that's only for the first window), or CenteredMaster |
| 2023-03-08 08:35:47 +0100 | <geekosaur> | oh right, ThreeColMid |
| 2023-03-08 08:36:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and I guess nobody's using it or we'd have heard of it by now |
| 2023-03-08 08:37:49 +0100 | derfflinger | (~derffling@user/derfflinger) |
| 2023-03-08 08:42:32 +0100 | <Solid> | exactly, yeah |
| 2023-03-08 08:42:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | also I'm surprised more of contrib hasn't bitrotted |
| 2023-03-08 08:42:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (or maybe it has but nobody's using the bitrotted parts?) |
| 2023-03-08 08:43:06 +0100 | incertia | (~incertia@209.122.71.127) |
| 2023-03-08 08:45:21 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: yes I do know, because I did it myself :-) |
| 2023-03-08 08:46:40 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: plasma-browser-integration gives me a dbus api and I then it's just some busctl and jq in bash |
| 2023-03-08 08:47:04 +0100 | <liskin> | It's a bit slow though, so I don't use it as much |
| 2023-03-08 08:48:32 +0100 | <geekosaur> | "plasma"? KDE based? or just intended for use with KDE but actually more general? |
| 2023-03-08 08:50:08 +0100 | <liskin> | The latter |
| 2023-03-08 08:50:35 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/.bashrc.d/50_aliases.sh#L91 and https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/bin/rofi-plasma-browser-integration |
| 2023-03-08 08:51:16 +0100 | <liskin> | (and then I have my own fork of https://github.com/erichgoldman/add-url-to-window-title but I don't remember why) |
| 2023-03-08 08:52:19 +0100 | <Solid> | liskin: should've known :P But thanks, I'll check it out! |
| 2023-03-08 08:53:08 +0100 | <liskin> | Oh, just to make it work with Firefox, which I actually don't use. |
| 2023-03-08 08:53:09 +0100 | <Solid> | geekosaur: pulls in about 110 dependencies on my system, so it seems *very* well-integrated into KDE at least |
| 2023-03-08 08:53:41 +0100 | <liskin> | Primarily because running webextensions from local git clones is such a massive pain in the ass. |
| 2023-03-08 08:55:17 +0100 | <liskin> | Whichever moron thought that there's no middle ground between "users who can't be trusted to admin they own computer" and "users willing to patch and compile Firefox" should get some torture. |
| 2023-03-08 08:57:52 +0100 | <liskin> | It wouldn't be difficult to do the whole thing yourself without all the deps |
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| 2023-03-08 16:17:57 +0100 | gauthier | (~user@84.218.126.109) |
| 2023-03-08 16:19:13 +0100 | <gauthier> | Hi! So, my machine dies of low battery again, without notifying me, again. I use xfce4-power-manager, to notify my at 15 %, but it doesn't. Any idea where these notifications might get lost? On Ubuntu 20.04 |
| 2023-03-08 16:20:48 +0100 | <geekosaur> | are you running a notification utility? dunst is popular with xmonad, alternately you can run xfce4-notifyd if you like xfce stuff |
| 2023-03-08 16:21:15 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it will not be started automatically |
| 2023-03-08 16:22:21 +0100 | <gauthier> | that might be the issue. Chrome does show notifications, so I thought this was taken care of. But maybe Google did some magic secret stuff that bypasses anything? |
| 2023-03-08 16:22:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | chrome does its own built-in notifications if there's nothing listening on the dbus endpoint |
| 2023-03-08 16:22:54 +0100 | <geekosaur> | so does firefox |
| 2023-03-08 16:24:07 +0100 | <gauthier> | oh, so now that you made me run dunst (thanks :) ), it will catch the chrome and firefox notifications? That might be a good feature, since I wanted to keep them but make them silent |
| 2023-03-08 16:24:42 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you may have to change a setting, at one point it was configurable in the settings although I didn't see it last time I went through them |
| 2023-03-08 16:25:27 +0100 | <gauthier> | the settings of chrome, you mean? That's where you were able to tell it to send to a different notifier? |
| 2023-03-08 16:26:09 +0100 | <gauthier> | well, a restart of Chrome and now it sends notifications to dunst |
| 2023-03-08 16:26:53 +0100 | <geekosaur> | well, tell it not to use its built-in notifications |
| 2023-03-08 16:27:10 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but it seems I got it right the first time and it checks for a dbus endpoint |
| 2023-03-08 16:28:30 +0100 | <gauthier> | That's awesome (well no, that's xmonad), thanks! The weird thing is that I've seen these notifications in the past, without running dunst explicitly. It might be from the time I was still running xmobar, or trayer, or mabe something else that handled notifications |
| 2023-03-08 16:29:03 +0100 | <gauthier> | but I'm happy with chrome using dunst, especially if that gives me more control than Chrome offered for their built-in ones. |
| 2023-03-08 16:29:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | xfce4 became a full desktop environment at some point, maybe something you did caused it to launch its notifyd |
| 2023-03-08 16:29:53 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (that is, running individual xfce programs is no longer supported and may launch the full DE) |
| 2023-03-08 16:32:37 +0100 | <gauthier> | only it's the other way around, I run xfce4-power-manager, but it does not seem to launch notifyd. But I'm still on Ubuntu 20.04, so maybe that will start happening when I upgrade to 22.04 (might as well wait for 2024 now) and apt upgrades xfce4-power-manager |
| 2023-03-08 16:32:58 +0100 | <gauthier> | I'll keep that in mind if xfce4 tries to take over in the future. Good info. |
| 2023-03-08 16:33:30 +0100 | <gauthier> | quick effective answer to my problem, thanks again! |
| 2023-03-08 16:34:45 +0100 | hightower2 | (~hightower@85.94.71.188) |
| 2023-03-08 16:38:14 +0100 | <fizzie> | Last I looked at Chrome, it had some (minimal) requirements for the notification daemon, and as long as it met those (dunst certainly would) it would use the system one by default. |
| 2023-03-08 16:38:29 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yep |
| 2023-03-08 16:38:56 +0100 | <geekosaur> | we're trying to figure out why at some point a different notification daemon wasn't running (I just suggested dunst) |
| 2023-03-08 16:39:44 +0100 | <gauthier> | can't trayer to that? |
| 2023-03-08 16:40:01 +0100 | <gauthier> | or maybe I had another power manager that did that. |
| 2023-03-08 16:40:17 +0100 | <geekosaur> | maybe, I don't run trayer. but I thought that was the notification area, not notification windows |
| 2023-03-08 16:40:22 +0100 | <gauthier> | oh, I used to have gnome-power-manager |
| 2023-03-08 16:40:35 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (which are confusingly named) |
| 2023-03-08 16:41:06 +0100 | <gauthier> | it is the popup notifications, I don't think it would be relevant for trayer to touch these, but you never know. |
| 2023-03-08 16:42:17 +0100 | <gauthier> | or maybe xmobar... but most likely some locally install package, which I don't remember. Maybe I had some notifyd on the computer that created that memory in my brain. |
| 2023-03-08 16:42:54 +0100 | <gauthier> | Anyway, it's not very important how it worked years ago, I'm happy to have them back now! And happy to understand why Chrome still had them |
| 2023-03-08 16:44:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | for a long time chrome didn't even try to use a notification daemon, it used its own always. that was annoying when chrome and the native notification daemon displayed something at the same time |
| 2023-03-08 16:45:38 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (which, because I have a calendar applet in chrome and a calendar program in MATE, happens regularly for me) |
| 2023-03-08 17:09:12 +0100 | <gauthier> | the thing that annoys me the most with the Chrome notifications is that I cannot make them silent. I want to see them, but I don't want them to go DING in the open office. I have my system notifications silent for that reason, but that did not apply, for a reason that I only now understand. |
| 2023-03-08 17:09:33 +0100 | <gauthier> | The fact that chrome did not let me set the sound is... astonishing. |
| 2023-03-08 17:16:29 +0100 | <geekosaur> | there may be some hidden setting |
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| 2023-03-08 19:23:51 +0100 | <kora9> | geekosaur: (that is, running individual xfce programs is no longer supported and may launch the full DE) <-- I didn't know that! I used to use xfce4 a lot, many moons ago |
| 2023-03-08 19:24:30 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yeh, it changed a number of years back. they used to support picking and choosing stuff instead of running the full DE |
| 2023-03-08 19:24:43 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I think only LXDE/LXQt supports that now |
| 2023-03-08 19:25:30 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's just getting harder and harder to give users a "desktop environment" without having everything tightly tied together |
| 2023-03-08 19:26:05 +0100 | <liskin> | Hm, are those dings actually related to the notification itself? I thought it's always the website playing a sound at the same time it sends a notification |
| 2023-03-08 19:26:50 +0100 | <liskin> | I've had to disable sounds in every single website that notifies. Which isn't many in my case, but still m |
| 2023-03-08 19:26:54 +0100 | <geekosaur> | notifications that go through the notification manager don't separately ding |
| 2023-03-08 19:27:02 +0100 | <liskin> | s/ m/./ |
| 2023-03-08 19:27:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (mate's notification manager doesn't have sound, at least in the version I'm running) |
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| 2023-03-08 20:16:11 +0100 | <kora9> | liskin: Do you have a script for the rofi emoji input you can share? :) |
| 2023-03-08 20:22:59 +0100 | <liskin> | kora9: https://github.com/liskin/emoji-rofi-menu |
| 2023-03-08 20:23:51 +0100 | <liskin> | Hm, used to be a fork, but looks like the original author left GitHub |
| 2023-03-08 20:29:03 +0100 | <kora9> | liskin: Thanks :) |
| 2023-03-08 20:29:22 +0100 | <kora9> | I hadn't considered using rofi for that, but that's a cool use case! |
| 2023-03-08 21:02:45 +0100 | <liskin> | Do take a look at the rofi-dmenu-frece bit as well |
| 2023-03-08 21:02:55 +0100 | <liskin> | Gives you frecency sort |
| 2023-03-08 21:04:16 +0100 | <liskin> | It's a pile of hacks though, my all dotfiles are. |
| 2023-03-08 21:04:32 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you should see mine 🙂 |
| 2023-03-08 21:05:07 +0100 | <liskin> | I seriously doubt you'd have more bash in there than I have |
| 2023-03-08 21:05:23 +0100 | <liskin> | But let's not turn this into a dick measuring contest :-D |
| 2023-03-08 21:05:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (https://github.com/geekosaur/dotty) |
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