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2023-02-16 04:03:46 +0000 <galactic_starfis> nah, encode them into your keyboards firmware, flash it and then send your keystrokes
2023-02-16 04:03:47 +0000 <galactic_starfis> (jk, lol)
2023-02-16 04:05:34 +0000 <galactic_starfis> is there a way for me to get X.H.WindowSwallowing to use X.L.Hidden, instead of its own XS.SwallowingState.currentlySwallowed field?
2023-02-16 04:06:16 +0000 <galactic_starfis> sometimes you'd like to peek at the stdout of the swallowed window, but you don't always know before you launch it...
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2023-02-16 04:23:14 +0000 <[Leary]> galactic_starfis: I don't use that module, but it looks like if you use `addTabs` in your layout and `swallowEventHookSub`, then a tab-switching keybind will let you toggle between the "swallowed" and "swallowing" windows.
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2023-02-16 04:58:37 +0000 <galactic_starfis> Hm... I've had bad experiences with sublayouts, but I guess I can try that
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2023-02-16 09:14:50 +0000 <Zevv> Good morning, could someone tell me what I am doing wrong here; I'm trying to configure font & colors of my tabs, but whatever I configure, the apperance does not change from the defaults. http://ix.io/4odW
2023-02-16 09:15:08 +0000 <Zevv> line 229 defins my tab configuration
2023-02-16 09:15:09 +0000unclechu(~unclechu@2001:470:69fc:105::354)
2023-02-16 09:16:57 +0000 <[Leary]> Zevv: You need to refresh your layout to see the changes. The default keybind for this is Mod+Shift+Space iirc.
2023-02-16 09:18:01 +0000 <Zevv> So recompiling & restarting is not enough? Let me try that.
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2023-02-16 09:18:09 +0000 <Zevv> I don't think any of the default keybinds apply to me though
2023-02-16 09:18:37 +0000 <Zevv> my config has been growing and mutation for the last 15 years :)
2023-02-16 09:20:07 +0000 <Zevv> I added a binding for `refresh`, but no luck yet
2023-02-16 09:20:17 +0000 <[Leary]> The issue is that layout state is full of your dynamic changes, which xmonad preserves across restart if it can---if the layout type does not change. However, it can't tell dynamic changes and stale config apart, so it has to keep both.
2023-02-16 09:20:50 +0000 <[Leary]> By refresh, I mean reset the workspace's layout to the default set in `layoutHook`.
2023-02-16 09:23:11 +0000 <Zevv> right; still no luck though. I must be doing somethign stupid
2023-02-16 09:25:14 +0000 <[Leary]> What action did you try? I guess it should be `setLayout (Layout myLayout)`.
2023-02-16 09:25:23 +0000 <Zevv> got it now, setLayout $ XMonad.layoutHook conf
2023-02-16 09:25:26 +0000 <Zevv> thanks!
2023-02-16 09:25:28 +0000 <[Leary]> Or that.
2023-02-16 09:25:45 +0000 <Zevv> i'll make that part of my restart
2023-02-16 09:27:39 +0000 <[Leary]> It only affects the current workspace, however. You'd need to traverse the windowset to make that happen everywhere, and your dynamic layout state won't persist.
2023-02-16 09:28:02 +0000 <Zevv> yeah, i just found that out. Anyway, solves my problem. thanks for your time
2023-02-16 10:00:49 +0000Zevv(~Zevvvvv@185.238.131.12) (and yet another great help on #xmonad, thanks people)
2023-02-16 10:24:01 +0000 <deip[m]> Hi, in my manage hook how can I target a window by its _NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) value?
2023-02-16 10:25:12 +0000 <galactic_starfis> isn't that just name?
2023-02-16 10:25:41 +0000 <Solid[m]> I think it's title, though note that titles don't tend to be very stable
2023-02-16 10:26:52 +0000 <galactic_starfis> for some apps they might be, but with others... not so much...
2023-02-16 10:27:01 +0000 <galactic_starfis> a terminal emulator is reliable
2023-02-16 10:27:12 +0000 <galactic_starfis> but Spotify... absolutely not
2023-02-16 10:27:26 +0000 <galactic_starfis> can't rely on anything for that flippin app
2023-02-16 10:27:51 +0000 <Solid[m]> Especially a terminal emulator should be unreliable—usually the title is just the current working directory, which obviously tends to change quite a lot
2023-02-16 10:28:24 +0000 <galactic_starfis> in a manageHook it should be fine though
2023-02-16 10:28:25 +0000 <galactic_starfis> right?
2023-02-16 10:28:50 +0000 <galactic_starfis> unless they're changing where they start it from, I suppose
2023-02-16 10:29:17 +0000 <deip[m]> can you give example please because it does not compile while trying with
2023-02-16 10:29:17 +0000 <deip[m]> ```
2023-02-16 10:29:17 +0000 <deip[m]> , name =? "Emulator" --> hasBorder False
2023-02-16 10:29:54 +0000 <galactic_starfis> I was mistaken, use title not name
2023-02-16 10:29:57 +0000 <Solid[m]> Yeah I was thinking something like alacritty's --working-directory could seriously mess it up
2023-02-16 10:30:39 +0000 <deip[m]> using title does not work, it compile but the window still have borders
2023-02-16 10:30:55 +0000 <galactic_starfis> unless they're using something like topics, not sure that applies to most people, but yeah, classname would be better here
2023-02-16 10:31:04 +0000 <galactic_starfis> try className, if you can
2023-02-16 10:31:12 +0000 <deip[m]> does not work
2023-02-16 10:31:19 +0000 <deip[m]> xprop give me that
2023-02-16 10:31:24 +0000 <deip[m]> WM_NAME(STRING) =
2023-02-16 10:31:24 +0000 <deip[m]> _NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "Emulator"
2023-02-16 10:32:44 +0000 <deip[m]> oh wait using that works
2023-02-16 10:32:48 +0000 <deip[m]> title ^? "Emulator"
2023-02-16 10:32:57 +0000 <deip[m]> okay thx!
2023-02-16 10:33:00 +0000 <galactic_starfis> ah, awesome
2023-02-16 10:33:03 +0000 <galactic_starfis> np
2023-02-16 10:51:43 +0000 <regina_hallad[m]> Hi 👋... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/094cda18a584a36cb9ba5298a4499d86279b…>)
2023-02-16 11:03:25 +0000 <deip[m]> wtf?
2023-02-16 11:04:16 +0000 <deip[m]> reported
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2023-02-16 11:45:33 +0000ChanServ+o Solid
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2023-02-16 11:46:26 +0000Solid+b regina_hallad[m]!*@*
2023-02-16 11:46:37 +0000regina_hallad[m]Solid (Kicked by Solid)
2023-02-16 11:47:36 +0000 <Solid> I wonder whether we actually have anyone who admins the matrix side
2023-02-16 11:47:46 +0000 <Solid> (and *which* matrix side, Iguess)
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2023-02-16 12:15:40 +0000 <liskin> I should be an admin of the Matrix room
2023-02-16 12:16:38 +0000 <liskin> Shall I make more people admins/mods?
2023-02-16 12:24:41 +0000 <Solid> I wouldn't mind, if only to delete that kind of spam
2023-02-16 12:24:58 +0000ChanServ-o Solid
2023-02-16 12:38:00 +0000 <geekosaur> the :libera.chat one is adminned from this side; the @matrix.org one from that side
2023-02-16 12:38:15 +0000 <geekosaur> also, hello
2023-02-16 12:40:40 +0000 <geekosaur> (I'm in the :libera.chat one; should I switch?)
2023-02-16 12:41:05 +0000 <geekosaur> I already am a mod in #haskell:matrix.org fwiw
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2023-02-16 14:03:29 +0000 <galactic_starfis> yeah, wouldn't mind someone deleting that sorta stuff
2023-02-16 14:04:13 +0000 <galactic_starfis> greedily I'd want it, but realistically I'm not sure I pop in often enough to warrant that
2023-02-16 14:04:40 +0000 <galactic_starfis> nor have I contributed enough to the project really...
2023-02-16 14:04:50 +0000 <galactic_starfis> but I plan on doing so at some point
2023-02-16 14:05:08 +0000 <galactic_starfis> I really want to express xmonad in a treelike structure underneath
2023-02-16 14:05:21 +0000 <galactic_starfis> I feel it would solve so many of our bugs and hacks
2023-02-16 14:08:47 +0000 <galactic_starfis> weird layout hacks: sublayouts, tabs/other decoration, floats, fullscreen
2023-02-16 14:08:47 +0000 <galactic_starfis> everything that causes main loop interruptions: gridselect, prompts (probably others, idk)
2023-02-16 14:08:47 +0000 <galactic_starfis> all of those would become seamless implementations without hacks, or any sort of trickery...
2023-02-16 14:10:48 +0000 <galactic_starfis> I think things like switching keybind sets would even become feasible...
2023-02-16 14:11:10 +0000 <galactic_starfis> but, so far, it's basically just in my head, so, who truly knows how well this would work
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2023-02-16 14:13:40 +0000 <geekosaur> might be time to start thinking about them; we're starting to plan out post-1.0 changes which are likely to be breaking (see for example [Leary]'s draft PRs)
2023-02-16 14:14:12 +0000 <galactic_starfis> Alright
2023-02-16 14:35:16 +0000 <geekosaur> there's also that layout tree draft PR, if it's not yours already
2023-02-16 14:36:43 +0000 <geekosaur> nope, not yours. https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/755 (which really belongs in the other repo)
2023-02-16 14:47:23 +0000 <galactic_starfis> Not what I'm talking about, but still intriguing I suppose
2023-02-16 14:49:02 +0000 <galactic_starfis> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/334
2023-02-16 14:49:02 +0000 <galactic_starfis> This is mine
2023-02-16 14:56:02 +0000 <geekosaur> so we've got two of these plus whatever [Leary] has in mind. you three should brainstorm together 🙂
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2023-02-16 15:14:17 +0000 <galactic_starfis> well, the second comment
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