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2022-12-13 00:53:00 +0100 <[Leary]> liskin: You should just enjoy your break! The PRs aren't urgent or anything, I just need to get them off my PC and into the world.
2022-12-13 00:53:27 +0100 <[Leary]> AskYourself[m]: try `journalctl -f`.
2022-12-13 00:54:01 +0100 <[Leary]> New output should appear there as the logs are written.
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2022-12-13 01:04:29 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Ahh ok.
2022-12-13 01:04:37 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Is there a way to pipe that to a file.
2022-12-13 01:04:46 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> I can see some output there that deff has to do with this.
2022-12-13 01:05:02 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> But it seems like since the journal is (always?) being written to, it can't be piped in the normal way.
2022-12-13 01:05:24 +0100Maeda(~Maeda@91-161-10-149.subs.proxad.net)
2022-12-13 01:05:40 +0100 <geekosaur> use script?
2022-12-13 01:06:03 +0100 <geekosaur> although journalctl probably has some option
2022-12-13 01:06:17 +0100geekosaurdoesn't really know journalctl
2022-12-13 01:07:26 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Hmm ok, I'll see if I can find the option.
2022-12-13 01:07:39 +0100 <[Leary]> You can do e.g. `journalctl -b0 | tail -n 100 > filename` to get the last 100 lines of the current boot log.
2022-12-13 01:10:01 +0100AskYourself[m]posted a file: (9KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/VwVcxkKvlJMIVyIXqEekocee/journal.txt >
2022-12-13 01:10:04 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> There we go.
2022-12-13 01:10:06 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Thx.
2022-12-13 01:11:56 +0100nrv(~nrv@217.199.233.203)
2022-12-13 01:16:51 +0100 <geekosaur> hrm. settings window is getting moved, dunno if it's centered but at least its y position changes to be much higher on the screen
2022-12-13 01:18:33 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> It still is in the same place when I look at it.
2022-12-13 01:19:25 +0100 <geekosaur> you would not see it in the position it originally requested, unless steam moves it back there after doCenterFloat moves it
2022-12-13 01:21:50 +0100 <geekosaur> it requests to be placed at (2927,618). doCenterFloat places it at (2510,247)
2022-12-13 01:22:36 +0100 <geekosaur> my guess is that steam moves it back to the position it originally requested, which places it partially offscreen
2022-12-13 01:25:40 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Does that mean there's no workaround?
2022-12-13 01:26:12 +0100 <geekosaur> convince steam to move it elsewhere. if you try to work around it from within xmonad you may just start an infinite loop of repositionings
2022-12-13 01:26:32 +0100 <geekosaur> some apps are just badly behaved
2022-12-13 01:29:41 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Hmm.
2022-12-13 01:29:47 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> I'll see if there is anything in settings.
2022-12-13 01:29:57 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Oh wait.
2022-12-13 01:30:02 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> 🤦‍♂️
2022-12-13 01:30:35 +0100 <geekosaur> mod-left mouse button to move it, since it's floating anyway?
2022-12-13 01:30:48 +0100 <geekosaur> or mod-right mouse button to resize, or both
2022-12-13 01:32:24 +0100 <geekosaur> it might even remember where you move/resize it to so this won't happen next time
2022-12-13 01:33:07 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> None of those commands have any effect.
2022-12-13 01:33:22 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Ohh weird.
2022-12-13 01:33:29 +0100 <geekosaur> huh?
2022-12-13 01:33:33 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> It notices them only if I use the real mod, not my supermod.
2022-12-13 01:33:48 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> I think I don't have the supertab set up to work with mouse.
2022-12-13 01:33:53 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> So I thought it wasn't working.
2022-12-13 01:33:59 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Using the original key works.
2022-12-13 01:36:57 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> I am so f*** confused right now.
2022-12-13 01:37:07 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> I just gave up and deleted everything.
2022-12-13 01:37:10 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Now it centers it everytime..
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2022-12-13 13:23:17 +0100kalj(~kalj@78-71-20-170-no193.tbcn.telia.com)
2022-12-13 13:25:44 +0100 <kalj> I am trying to set up building my local xmonad config using ghcup, but I am lost. Should I use cabal-install, stack, or something else?
2022-12-13 13:26:31 +0100 <geekosaur> up to you. the tutorial will guide you through both cabal and stack
2022-12-13 13:27:00 +0100 <geekosaur> https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
2022-12-13 13:27:42 +0100 <geekosaur> most eople find stack a bi8t easier. I use cabal, but in a fully cabalized setup (not covered by the tutorial) so HLS will work
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2022-12-13 13:28:50 +0100 <kalj> Yeah, I looked in the tutorial. It assumes I have cloned xmonad and xmonad-contrib repos. I was hoping to be able to install them using some package manager.
2022-12-13 13:28:50 +0100 <kalj> I did cabal install --libs xmonad xmonad-contrib, but now xmonad --recompile doesn't find them.
2022-12-13 13:29:01 +0100[Leary](~Leary]@user/Leary/x-0910699)
2022-12-13 13:29:48 +0100 <geekosaur> did you run it in your xmonad directory?
2022-12-13 13:30:09 +0100 <geekosaur> if not then the environment file got written to the wrong place and won't be used
2022-12-13 13:30:12 +0100 <kalj> The "cabal install ..." command?
2022-12-13 13:30:16 +0100 <geekosaur> yes
2022-12-13 13:30:58 +0100 <kalj> okay, but the installed libraries end up in ~/.cabal/... right? So how can I set up an env file_
2022-12-13 13:31:00 +0100 <kalj> ?
2022-12-13 13:32:32 +0100 <geekosaur> if you run it from your home directoty then you probably have a ~/.ghc.environment.(whatever) in your home dir
2022-12-13 13:32:41 +0100 <geekosaur> created by the --lib option
2022-12-13 13:32:51 +0100 <geekosaur> you could try moving that to your xmonad directory
2022-12-13 13:33:28 +0100 <kalj> Okay ,I think I have an environment file in the right place now.
2022-12-13 13:33:48 +0100 <kalj> And it does accept "import XMonad" now!
2022-12-13 13:34:28 +0100 <kalj> But now it can't find Control.Monad.Cont from mtl. How do I fix that?
2022-12-13 13:34:50 +0100 <kalj> I guess I need to add it somehow to the env file?
2022-12-13 13:35:04 +0100 <geekosaur> cabal install --lib mtl
2022-12-13 13:35:26 +0100 <geekosaur> which won';t reinstall it but should add a reference to the store copy to the environment file
2022-12-13 13:35:56 +0100 <geekosaur> this kind of thing is why users often find stack easier, they can just create a stack.yaml
2022-12-13 13:36:14 +0100 <geekosaur> that said, I'm afraid to ask what you;re doing that needs Cont in your xmonad.hs 🙂
2022-12-13 13:38:50 +0100 <kalj> It's for this thing: https://github.com/kalj/dotfiles/blob/master/.xmonad/lib/MaxWidth.hs
2022-12-13 13:40:04 +0100 <kalj> It seems "cabal install --lib mtl" does not touch the environment file?
2022-12-13 13:40:45 +0100 <geekosaur> if it's run in the xmonad dir it should
2022-12-13 13:51:05 +0100 <kalj> Well, it doesn't for me :)
2022-12-13 13:57:52 +0100 <kalj> Ah, it seemed I needed to specify --package-env=$HOME/.xmonad/
2022-12-13 14:01:09 +0100 <Solid> [Leary]: sounds good :) I've been pretty wrecked with work recently and wanted to get back into the swing of things anyways, so that sounds like a good oportunity
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2022-12-13 14:16:21 +0100 <[Leary]> Solid: Sweet---the bulk are already in a state to post, more or less, so I should be putting them up some time tomorrow. :]
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2022-12-13 18:58:14 +0100 <geekosaur> @tell kalj oh sorry, right. in that case you now have a global environment file which can break things. remove ~/.ghc/*/environments/default
2022-12-13 18:58:14 +0100 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2022-12-13 19:03:39 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Hey, so ChaoticMist has been helping me get Taffybar running. And during debugging I had xmobar running in the background. If you look at line 11, that was **not** commented out during debugging:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/e0044142ab2c7f0f0c634bb427e3d9819d42…>)
2022-12-13 19:03:52 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> * Hey, so ChaoticMist has been helping me get Taffybar running. And during debugging I had xmobar running in the background. If you look at line 13, that was **not** commented out during debugging:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/129df447f3a54253151f03396979ad7965e4…>)
2022-12-13 19:07:46 +0100 <geekosaur> do you have avoidStruts in your layoutHook?
2022-12-13 19:11:13 +0100 <geekosaur> you may also want to add the toggle-struts keybinding manually since you're not using withEasySB any more
2022-12-13 19:11:43 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Right ok.
2022-12-13 19:11:45 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Trying.
2022-12-13 19:12:21 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Ok that fixed it, and yes I'll add the toggle.
2022-12-13 19:12:24 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Tyvm.
2022-12-13 19:21:08 +0100thyriaen(~thyriaen@2a01:aea0:dd4:4bae:6245:cbff:fe9f:48b1)
2022-12-13 19:21:46 +0100 <JulioBorjaBarra[> hi all! I'm trying to use trayer with xmobar, but xmobar is covering it. I tried lowerOnStart but it seems not to be working. This is xmobar 0.45. I also noticed the 'centering' (using alignSep) is not working properly. The item in the middle moves left and right depending on the length of the content in the left. Do you know how can I solve either problem? My configuration is: http://ix.io/4ix0
2022-12-13 19:23:35 +0100 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Util-Hacks.html#v:trayerAbov…
2022-12-13 19:23:56 +0100 <geekosaur> I can't help with the centering part, though
2022-12-13 19:33:21 +0100 <JulioBorjaBarra[> thank you!
2022-12-13 19:34:18 +0100 <JulioBorjaBarra[> I don't know what happened with the centering. I'm tempted to report it since I discovered this after an update (would have to check which version I had before) and I made no changes to my config.
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2022-12-13 20:59:35 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> Does it make any sense that I would set an manage hook up, and that this could somehow alter a program such that even when the hook is deleted, some kind of behaviour from the hook remains?
2022-12-13 20:59:52 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> I think something like this happened with the Steam stuff I was going on about the other day.
2022-12-13 21:00:24 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> It seems like steam "remembers" to always fill the screen.
2022-12-13 21:09:29 +0100 <geekosaur> some apps remember window positions, yes. I told you that yesterday and even pointed to an example (the update dialog on ubuntu)
2022-12-13 21:09:56 +0100 <geekosaur> \positions and sizes
2022-12-13 21:10:12 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> I know, I realized that and then deleted my message. Sorry for double post.
2022-12-13 21:10:14 +0100 <AskYourself[m]> My bad.
2022-12-13 21:41:39 +0100 <geekosaur> I should probably mention that IRC has no way to delete messages; once they're sent, they're immutable. So I didn't see the deletion, although I just did on my phone where I run Element