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| 2022-12-01 02:03:08 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | Is there any obvious reason why deploying Xmonad to my laptop would cause me to lose mousepad functionality? |
| 2022-12-01 02:04:23 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | Some further details: plugging in a mouse works, and the screen activates from touching the trackpad, but there is no cursor movement. |
| 2022-12-01 02:16:47 +0100 | <liskin> | AskYourself[m]: seems like something that would happen in any other X11 window manager as well |
| 2022-12-01 02:16:57 +0100 | <liskin> | can you possibly try and verify that? |
| 2022-12-01 02:19:58 +0100 | <liskin> | probably don't even need another wm, just doing "startx /usr/bin/xterm" should give you a very barebones session where you can try moving the pointer |
| 2022-12-01 02:24:16 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | I don't seem to have startx, I could get it though and try this. |
| 2022-12-01 02:24:30 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | This still makes sense to do on NixOS right? |
| 2022-12-01 02:30:15 +0100 | <liskin> | might be easier for you to get another wm like i3 or openbox or fluxbox or whatever and try that rather than getting startx to work |
| 2022-12-01 02:30:34 +0100 | <liskin> | dunno really |
| 2022-12-01 02:31:00 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | I think I'll try that. |
| 2022-12-01 02:31:16 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | Cause I never used xinit and startx and all that stuff. |
| 2022-12-01 02:31:24 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | I just use the NIx module. |
| 2022-12-01 02:31:24 +0100 | <liskin> | anyway, I'll fall asleep soon, so: if your mouse problems happen with another WM as well, it's a problem with your xorg server or its configuration |
| 2022-12-01 02:31:40 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | Right, of course. |
| 2022-12-01 02:31:46 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | Ok, thank you. |
| 2022-12-01 02:31:54 +0100 | <liskin> | if it's just with xmonad, then… that's some weird magic and I have no idea anyway :-D |
| 2022-12-01 02:32:10 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | Hahaha, ok hoping for former.... |
| 2022-12-01 02:50:43 +0100 | <_Ity[m]> | <AskYourself[m]> "This still makes sense to do..." <- Just nix run might work |
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| 2022-12-01 09:34:40 +0100 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
| 2022-12-01 09:45:24 +0100 | <kora9> | geekosaur: Oh! Thanks, I had no idea about the appName/className distinction in WM_CLASS. The <&&> to combine queries is also great knowledge, I was wondering about that! :-) |
| 2022-12-01 09:48:23 +0100 | <Solid> | kora9: the EDSL that ManageHelpers provides is pretty full features; and if something's not there already, it's usually pretty easy to add :) |
| 2022-12-01 09:49:15 +0100 | <kora9> | Solid: That goes for all of Xmonad I find! I'm usually just limited by my own lack of haskell knowledge, and that feels great. That there *is* a way to do anything you want, you just have to read up a bit :) |
| 2022-12-01 09:49:24 +0100 | <kora9> | I'm a huge fan already, but definitely need to learn more haskell |
| 2022-12-01 09:50:31 +0100 | <kora9> | I've gotten to the point where I mostly understand the config at least and have a bunch of custom things set up (based on modified examples mostly) |
| 2022-12-01 09:50:41 +0100 | <Solid> | very good |
| 2022-12-01 09:50:44 +0100 | <Solid> | you're always welcome to ask for help here, of course! :) |
| 2022-12-01 09:55:13 +0100 | <kora9> | Solid: Thanks :) I'm also really impressed by how fast and stable xmonad is. I've often found that if a wm has a ton of functionality, that it tends to be unstable (or even slow). Xmonad is one of the most stable wm's I've tried, and super fast. |
| 2022-12-01 09:55:56 +0100 | <kora9> | Do you have a config I can take a peek at to get some more ideas on what one can do? :) |
| 2022-12-01 10:02:07 +0100 | <Solid> | Yes, but I will warn you that it might be a little hard to understand ^^' |
| 2022-12-01 10:02:35 +0100 | <kora9> | Solid: That's good, it forces me to learn :) |
| 2022-12-01 10:02:43 +0100 | <Solid> | https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/blob/master/xmonad/.config/xmonad/src/xmonad.hs |
| 2022-12-01 10:03:00 +0100 | <Solid> | Actually, I think most of the complexity has been upstreamed at this point |
| 2022-12-01 10:03:12 +0100 | <kora9> | Thanks :) |
| 2022-12-01 10:11:46 +0100 | <kora9> | Solid: Any idea why title ^? "Keybase: " wouldn't work in a scratchpad find thingy, but title =? "Keybase: ActivityName" does? |
| 2022-12-01 10:12:42 +0100 | <kora9> | (It changes out the ActivityName portion in the appname). I've managed to implement it using a bunch of <||> statements to specifically target each thus far |
| 2022-12-01 10:13:32 +0100 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a0c:6a00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-12-01 10:13:36 +0100 | <Solid> | kora9: which version of xmonad[-contrib] are you on? I remember ^? being implemented wrong before 0.17.1 |
| 2022-12-01 10:13:54 +0100 | <kora9> | Solid: 0.17.1 |
| 2022-12-01 10:14:09 +0100 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a0c:6a00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) |
| 2022-12-01 10:15:58 +0100 | <Solid> | kora9: random thought: `title` refers to the actual title of the window; is that what you want to match on? Because above you talked about entries in WM_CLASS |
| 2022-12-01 10:18:04 +0100 | <kora9> | Solid: Yeah, using the appName or className makes it target some other portions of its tray functionality which causes issues :) |
| 2022-12-01 10:18:16 +0100 | <Solid> | ah |
| 2022-12-01 10:19:16 +0100 | <kora9> | Using <||> statements to target each of its 8 different category titles is the best I've gotten it to work so far. Now I just need to figure out a way to "spawn" it without that just spawning its tray dash thing |
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| 2022-12-01 11:56:31 +0100 | vanvik1 | vanvik |
| 2022-12-01 12:08:11 +0100 | thyriaen | (~thyriaen@2a01:aea0:dd4:470d:6245:cbff:fe9f:48b1) |
| 2022-12-01 12:08:37 +0100 | <thyriaen> | can i rename the title ( shown in tabs ) of my windows ? |
| 2022-12-01 12:28:47 +0100 | rpana | (~rpana@141.30.130.27) |
| 2022-12-01 12:57:02 +0100 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad Tomas Janousek * v0.17.1-38-g1d1c012: ci: Drop ppa:hvr/ghc (5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 6-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/1d1c012cb9b0 |
| 2022-12-01 13:02:07 +0100 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad github-actions * v0.17.1-39-gc167030: man: Update (5 minutes ago, 2 files, 126+ 124-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/c1670303c0ac |
| 2022-12-01 13:05:23 +0100 | rpana | (~rpana@141.30.130.27) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2022-12-01 13:07:13 +0100 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad Tomas Janousek * v0.17.1-40-ge632996: ci: Pin runner in hlint, nix workflows to ubuntu-20.04 (7 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/e6329968ffe8 |
| 2022-12-01 13:07:14 +0100 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tomas Janousek * v0.17.1-101-g18eca4e8: ci: Drop ppa:hvr/ghc (15 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 6-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/18eca4e8d640 |
| 2022-12-01 13:07:21 +0100 | <xmonadtrack> | X11 Tomas Janousek * 1.10.3-12-g86754a2: ci: Drop ppa:hvr/ghc (15 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 6-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11/commit/86754a204f37 |
| 2022-12-01 13:12:18 +0100 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tomas Janousek * v0.17.1-102-gb7afb0c0: ci: Pin runner in hlint, nix workflows to ubuntu-20.04 (12 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/b7afb0c0bc3f |
| 2022-12-01 13:12:20 +0100 | <xmonadtrack> | X11-xft Tomas Janousek * v0.3.4-15-g2011e0b: ci: Drop ppa:hvr/ghc (20 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 6-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/2011e0b71934 |
| 2022-12-01 13:13:27 +0100 | <liskin> | where is my hacktoberfest tshirt though, am I doing this shit for free? :-D |
| 2022-12-01 13:14:33 +0100 | janlely[m] | (~janlelyjj@2001:470:69fc:105::2:b911) () |
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| 2022-12-01 15:00:52 +0100 | <geekosaur> | thyriaen, no, the tab shows WM_NAME which is set by the application |
| 2022-12-01 15:02:54 +0100 | <geekosaur> | Solid, ^? was implemented correctly, it was documented incorrectly (cited `isInfixOf` instead of `isPrefixOf`) |
| 2022-12-01 15:05:21 +0100 | <Solid> | geekosaur: no, it used to be implemented as `q ^? x = fmap (`isPrefixOf` x) q`, which checked whether (e.g.) the title was a prefix of whatever the user gave it |
| 2022-12-01 15:05:25 +0100 | <Solid> | definitely the wrong way around :) |
| 2022-12-01 15:05:38 +0100 | <geekosaur> | oh |
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| 2022-12-01 20:39:53 +0100 | Guest71 | (~Guest71@93-35-162-240.ip55.fastwebnet.it) |
| 2022-12-01 20:39:59 +0100 | <Guest71> | Hi there |
| 2022-12-01 20:40:19 +0100 | <Guest71> | I was wondering, why is it named xmonad? |
| 2022-12-01 20:41:13 +0100 | <geekosaur> | haskell joke of sorts, including that pretty much everything lives in the X monad |
| 2022-12-01 20:41:34 +0100 | <Guest71> | Oh gotcha |
| 2022-12-01 20:41:43 +0100 | <Guest71> | Thanks |
| 2022-12-01 20:41:53 +0100 | <Guest71> | Bye |
| 2022-12-01 20:42:17 +0100 | <dminuoso> | If I was to ever work it, I would call it xfunctor |
| 2022-12-01 20:43:02 +0100 | Guest71 | (~Guest71@93-35-162-240.ip55.fastwebnet.it) (Client Quit) |
| 2022-12-01 20:53:28 +0100 | <AskYourself[m]> | <liskin> "anyway, I'll fall asleep soon..." <- Ok, so I got around to this. The issue is there with other WMs. Any idea how to approach debugging? |
| 2022-12-01 20:58:58 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I'd start by looking at what xinput has to say about the device |
| 2022-12-01 21:00:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | `xinput list` to get device name/id, `xinput list-props <device>` to see its properties (in my case the first property says it's disabled, because I use the trackpoint or external mouse) |
| 2022-12-01 21:02:04 +0100 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/3j6b0stD |
| 2022-12-01 21:02:40 +0100 | <liskin> | dminuoso: why? |
| 2022-12-01 21:03:55 +0100 | <dminuoso> | liskin: an xmonad is just an xfunctor in the category yof xenofunctors. clearly |
| 2022-12-01 21:04:04 +0100 | <dminuoso> | puns everywhere. |
| 2022-12-01 21:06:16 +0100 | <liskin> | :-D |
| 2022-12-01 21:07:49 +0100 | <_Ity[m]> | dminuoso: Good one |
| 2022-12-01 21:08:45 +0100 | <xmonadtrack> | X11-xft Tomas Janousek * v0.3.4-16-g3961e45: ci: Install libxft-dev dep in Stack workflow (3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/3961e45fbe32 |
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| 2022-12-01 22:30:04 +0100 | <aureliju[m]> | > <@aureliju:matrix.org> Hello there,... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/6357d5994c22f1cc09c02b70f712450b2e22…>) |
| 2022-12-01 22:30:06 +0100 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’ |
| 2022-12-01 22:35:09 +0100 | ChanServ | +o geekosaur |
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| 2022-12-01 22:35:18 +0100 | aureliju[m] | geekosaur (aureliju[m]) |
| 2022-12-01 22:35:25 +0100 | geekosaur | -o geekosaur |
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