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2022-11-04 02:26:55 +0100seanchapel[m](~seanchape@2001:470:69fc:105::2:b2e9)
2022-11-04 02:34:25 +0100 <seanchapel[m]> Hi, I'm a newbie to xmonad and I'm having two issues. 1) I like to mod + right click to resize a window however for some reason that is toggling floating mode for the window. 2) it seems like when electron apps get notifications that the app freezes for a long time (bspwm also has this issue tho)
2022-11-04 02:36:17 +0100 <seanchapel[m]> here is my config incase it's helpful https://seoushi.dynu.net/-/snippets/2
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2022-11-04 04:27:03 +0100 <geekosaur> it's kinda meaningless to resize a tiled window without floating it. unless you want https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Layout-MouseResizableTile.html
2022-11-04 04:27:17 +0100rundown(~eb0t@33bb498f.skybroadband.com)
2022-11-04 04:28:24 +0100 <geekosaur> for the second one, I use Matrix sometimes and it doesn'[t seem to freeze for me. do you have a notification daemon of some kind running? a nice minimalistic one is dunst
2022-11-04 04:28:35 +0100 <geekosaur> seanchapel[m] ^^
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2022-11-04 04:42:40 +0100 <seanchapel[m]> thanks. mouseresizabletile is what I want. I don't have a notif daemon running, I will try that and see if solves the issue.
2022-11-04 04:43:33 +0100 <seanchapel[m]> from what I can tell mouse and right click still floats a window by default. I just need to figure out how to override the mouse keybindings now... doing some research
2022-11-04 04:43:40 +0100 <seanchapel[m]> s/mouse/mod/
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2022-11-04 10:50:01 +0100 <thyriaen> I just started up my pc and created 2 workspaces on my main monitor running independentScreens - then when i kept switching from workspace 1 and 2 - something really strange happened - xmonad switched the windows between workspace 1 and 2 between the monitors, however both workspaces "0_1" and "0_2" are supposed to "belong" to screen 1
2022-11-04 10:50:24 +0100 <thyriaen> maybe it is of interest: i didn't have any windows on screen 2 nor did i click there once giving it focus
2022-11-04 10:50:43 +0100 <thyriaen> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/tW5WjuR5 this is my xmonad.hs
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2022-11-04 11:31:37 +0100 <thyriaen> I have a two pane layout - how can i move a window from the left pane to the right pane and back ?
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2022-11-04 13:49:25 +0100 <geekosaur> thyriaen, you probably want to set up WindowNavigation to move windows between panes
2022-11-04 13:50:18 +0100 <geekosaur> as to the other, probably you were supposed to replace W.view with W.greedyView
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2022-11-04 14:43:01 +0100 <thyriaen> if you check my xmonad.sh
2022-11-04 14:43:08 +0100 <thyriaen> i already have greedyView geekosaur
2022-11-04 14:44:18 +0100 <geekosaur> yeh, I think I had that backwards. greedyView flips things so the ws you're focusing moves to the current monoitor. you want view
2022-11-04 14:44:20 +0100 <thyriaen> and i think i already did setup windowNavigatioin
2022-11-04 14:44:49 +0100 <geekosaur> then you want to use the bindings for `sendMessage (Move L)` etc.
2022-11-04 14:44:51 +0100 <thyriaen> ( but usually it works ) it flipped it only this morning
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2022-11-04 17:01:02 +0100 <jabuxas> I seem to be having a problem with a game on steam on xmonad, the game works perfectly on xfce and awesome (as far as I can tell, i'm testing on awesome rn and it is working), but on xmonad, the game launches and I can play, but, after 10-15 minutes the game and xmonad crashes and I'm forced to log out and log back in.
2022-11-04 17:01:22 +0100 <jabuxas> https://0x0.st/ogEh.txt xmonad config
2022-11-04 17:01:26 +0100liskin[m](~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768)
2022-11-04 17:11:05 +0100 <geekosaur> can you check your session log (usually ~/.xsession-errors but sddm uses ~/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log and startx will log to the original virtual console unless redirected) to see if any errors are logged from xmonad?
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2022-11-04 17:26:33 +0100 <jabuxas> https://0x0.st/og6v.txt
2022-11-04 17:27:39 +0100 <jabuxas> the game crashed right at startup. also the logs don't seem useful, maybe i'm not getting the right ones?
2022-11-04 17:27:53 +0100 <jabuxas> my whole xmonad turns unresponsive after this and i'm forced to log out and log back in
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2022-11-04 17:36:57 +0100 <jabuxas> should I try to go on awesome and see if those `Unknown property in AccoladeProgressId` happens there too?
2022-11-04 17:39:50 +0100 <geekosaur> you can check but that looks a little early
2022-11-04 17:39:57 +0100tremon(~tremon@83-84-18-241.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl)
2022-11-04 17:40:16 +0100 <geekosaur> also you appear to have DynamicLog configured somewhat oddly for modern xmonad; I'll have to check your config re that
2022-11-04 17:40:25 +0100 <geekosaur> but it's at least not going to block
2022-11-04 17:41:26 +0100 <geekosaur> it should not be possible for a user config to cause xmonad to crash, unless it's doing non-xmonad things. I didn't actually look at your config because I was more interested in any error logs, guess that's next
2022-11-04 17:44:14 +0100 <jabuxas> the game is crashing xmonad, idk how, I was thinking that maybe it's a core thing that my xmonad.hs is missing but i'm not sure
2022-11-04 17:47:59 +0100 <geekosaur> I don't see anything missing
2022-11-04 17:48:56 +0100 <geekosaur> I did see why there are DynamicLog outputs in your logfile… why do you have `logHook = dynamicLogWithPP . filterOutWsPP ["NSP"] $ def` ?
2022-11-04 17:49:26 +0100 <geekosaur> it won't affect the PPs that are actually used for output, it'll just spit stuff to xmonad's stdout
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2022-11-04 17:51:28 +0100 <jabuxas> I thought that was how I made NSP workspace (which is a scratchpad) gone from my bar. It doesn't actually work because that's probably implemented wrongly as you said, but I can take that off no problem
2022-11-04 17:51:29 +0100 <geekosaur> you would want to apply filterOutWsPP to myXmobarPP, not there
2022-11-04 17:52:02 +0100 <geekosaur> in any case it's not really doing anything aside from proving that your log is a log 🙂
2022-11-04 17:52:23 +0100 <geekosaur> (that is, that it's capturing xmonad's output)
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2022-11-04 17:52:58 +0100 <jabuxas> oh yeah put it in myxmobarpp now works
2022-11-04 17:53:32 +0100 <jabuxas> my friend also seems to be crashing on kde, and i'm crashing on xmonad
2022-11-04 17:53:38 +0100rundown(~eb0t@90.202.12.12)
2022-11-04 17:53:55 +0100 <jabuxas> i'm not sure the relationship between that, as I can run fine on awesome and xfce (plus im on gentoo) and he's on arch
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2022-11-04 17:56:04 +0100 <jabuxas> I tried running xmonad on xfce but I couldn't get it working without dramastically changing my config, xmobar wasn't showing up, xfce panels were invisible, and 2nd monitor workspaces looked rather odd, I tried that because I thought that maybe it was missing something but as you said, it isn't so that is out of the way
2022-11-04 17:58:59 +0100 <jabuxas> I thought maybe the compositor (picom) was crashing the game but that would also not make sense since I run picom on xfce and awesome too (i tried without it just in case and it's the same)
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2022-11-04 19:08:35 +0100 <jabuxas> I seem to have figured it out, geekosaur.
2022-11-04 19:08:55 +0100 <jabuxas> I took DXVK_ASYNC off of my launch parameters and now, after 1 hour of gameplay, still no crashes.
2022-11-04 19:09:25 +0100 <jabuxas> what I would hope to know now is why that is a problem on xmonad and not on other things i've tested
2022-11-04 19:09:47 +0100 <jabuxas> i have no problem playing with that off so yeah problem kinda solved
2022-11-04 19:11:03 +0100 <geekosaur> possibly we don't initialize the video card when other things do, xmonad being minimal and DXVK appearing to be related to 3D drawing
2022-11-04 19:11:22 +0100 <geekosaur> so maybe there's something you can run at session startup
2022-11-04 19:12:23 +0100 <geekosaur> (alternately it's conceivable that the DXVK async code doesn't like borders much. we've seen that kind of thing before; nvidia drivers used to have horrible problems there)
2022-11-04 19:13:19 +0100 <geekosaur> which may mean it's not xmonad that's crashing but the X server. /var/log/Xorg.0.log usually
2022-11-04 19:13:33 +0100 <geekosaur> (a new server would be launched for the greeter)
2022-11-04 19:16:39 +0100 <geekosaur> hm, might have to hope it backs up the old log since the greeter's restart of the X server would overwrite it
2022-11-04 19:17:08 +0100 <geekosaur> yeh, I have /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old on my ubuntu
2022-11-04 19:17:41 +0100 <geekosaur> but you'd have to use a terminal session to grab it, logging in under X would replace it with the greeter server's log
2022-11-04 19:20:16 +0100 <jabuxas> if X crashed wouldn't my gui just dissapear automatically?
2022-11-04 19:21:15 +0100 <jabuxas> because when the game crashed, my cpu fans would go up and if I opened a terminal for example, my prompt wouldn't appear, my keyboard wouldn't really type anything, usually that's some I/O stuff
2022-11-04 19:22:43 +0100 <jabuxas> I do have https://0x0.st/oglx.txt , it *should* be from my last startX (when it crashed)
2022-11-04 19:23:03 +0100 <geekosaur> you should have mentioned that
2022-11-04 19:23:36 +0100 <geekosaur> in any case that's not an xmonad crash as such, *that* would have dumped you back to the greeter
2022-11-04 19:24:26 +0100 <geekosaur> so now I wonder if the game is spinning for some reason
2022-11-04 19:26:16 +0100 <jabuxas> my bad
2022-11-04 19:28:05 +0100 <geekosaur> I have a still-undiagnosed situation where something is eating all of my memory and OOMing, and xmonad disappears without a log message (strongly suggesting it's xmonad that is OOMing, but I can't see how)
2022-11-04 19:28:33 +0100 <geekosaur> but it leaves the rest of my session because I run xmonad under MATE so mate-session is still running
2022-11-04 19:29:12 +0100 <geekosaur> was wondering of that might be related, but unless you're running under a session manager xmonad OOMing would kill your session
2022-11-04 19:29:16 +0100 <geekosaur> *if that
2022-11-04 19:29:53 +0100 <geekosaur> might use top if you can get something to respond (already-open terminal?) to see what's spinning
2022-11-04 19:30:47 +0100 <jabuxas> yeah I'll remember to do that, i usually have a terminal open either way
2022-11-04 19:31:29 +0100 <geekosaur> but that again might require a session manager if xmonad is what's spinning, since it would presumably ignore switching focus in that situation
2022-11-04 19:32:34 +0100 <jabuxas> oh it does respond to focus
2022-11-04 19:32:41 +0100 <geekosaur> hm, I can open a terminal without requiring xmonad but if it were still running it'd have to manage it. so still wouldn't help
2022-11-04 19:32:45 +0100 <geekosaur> oh goood
2022-11-04 19:33:59 +0100 <jabuxas> by session manager do you mean a display manager like sddm or lightdm?
2022-11-04 19:34:20 +0100 <geekosaur> no, something like xfce4-session or mate-session
2022-11-04 19:34:32 +0100 <geekosaur> or even a minimal one like xsm
2022-11-04 19:34:45 +0100 <jabuxas> oh i dont have that
2022-11-04 19:35:31 +0100 <jabuxas> well even if it lost focus, i could still switch to a tty and do top there
2022-11-04 19:35:39 +0100 <geekosaur> I rely on that to get5 things running again if I manage to crash xmonad, since (1) my session keeps running (2) I can pop a terminal via the mate menu without a window manager being involved, and restart xmonad from there
2022-11-04 19:35:45 +0100 <jabuxas> now i am kinda hoping it crashes again so i can figure out what it culd be
2022-11-04 19:36:58 +0100 <jabuxas> with the way my config is now, if i were to use xmonad with a DE would I really need to change anything?
2022-11-04 19:37:23 +0100 <jabuxas> i looked at xmonad.config.xfce and it just does ewmh stuff, no?
2022-11-04 19:38:29 +0100 <geekosaur> also swaps mod-shift-q to the xfce logout dialog and mod-p (or maybe mod-shift-p) to its run dialog
2022-11-04 19:39:16 +0100 <geekosaur> xfce's one of the more minimal integrations; mate integration also includes some dbus stuff to tell the session manager that xmonad has started
2022-11-04 19:40:36 +0100 <geekosaur> if you did want to log some xmobar-like stuff under xfce, you'd either have to configure xmobar to display somewhere other than where xfce4-panel was or you'd have to build the xfce flavor of xmonad-log-applet and plumb it into your config manually because it uses dbus
2022-11-04 19:43:37 +0100 <jabuxas> my xfce panel is on the left of the screen and xmobar on top, but even like that both were invisible, no idea what happened. i might try it out at a later date if i have time
2022-11-04 19:43:44 +0100 <jabuxas> for now everything is working
2022-11-04 19:44:24 +0100 <jabuxas> ty again geekosaur
2022-11-04 19:51:43 +0100darkkaster(~user@206.62.170.243)
2022-11-04 19:53:25 +0100 <darkkaster> I get this error when I start xorg https://termbin.com/omhg
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2022-11-04 20:02:44 +0100 <geekosaur> are you just runing xmonad at a terminal?
2022-11-04 20:03:04 +0100 <geekosaur> hm, no, that would be an openDisplay error
2022-11-04 20:04:04 +0100 <geekosaur> but we only use the required Atoms on startup, and should be creating e.g. the EWMH atoms as needed
2022-11-04 20:04:27 +0100 <darkkaster> i run xmonad using xinitrc but redirect the output to a text file
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2022-11-04 20:12:02 +0100 <geekosaur> X_ChangeProperty error… doesn't seem like we should be doing that
2022-11-04 20:12:31 +0100 <geekosaur> oh, WM_STATE. but if that atom's not defined (or its type isn't defined) there should be bigger problems than just xmonad failing
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2022-11-04 20:14:00 +0100 <geekosaur> sometimes I wish we used the standard error reporter, be nice to have a clue about where / when this was failing
2022-11-04 20:14:11 +0100 <geekosaur> then again xmonad should be continuing after this
2022-11-04 20:14:23 +0100 <geekosaur> because the error handler we use tries to recover
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2022-11-04 20:56:32 +0100 <jabuxas> is this normal? https://0x0.st/ogUD.png both xmobars consuming ~4% cpu
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2022-11-04 21:12:04 +0100geekosaurhas no clue
2022-11-04 21:18:12 +0100 <jabuxas> Solid, what do you think?
2022-11-04 21:19:10 +0100 <geekosaur> istr that liskin worked a bit on xmobar performance, but I don't know what current "normal" is
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2022-11-04 22:09:42 +0100 <jabuxas> hmm
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2022-11-04 22:49:28 +0100mojowings[m](~mojowings@2001:470:69fc:105::2:b42f)
2022-11-04 22:51:20 +0100 <mojowings[m]> I have a system 76 laptop with integrated and nvidia graphics. I have used xmonad for years but my actual understanding of WM related things is sadly shallow so apologies for the potentially simple question.
2022-11-04 22:54:26 +0100 <mojowings[m]> * I have a system 76 laptop with integrated and nvidia graphics. I have used xmonad for years but my actual understanding of WM related things is sadly shallow so apologies for the potentially simple question.
2022-11-04 22:54:26 +0100 <mojowings[m]> When I set hybrid use of integrated and nvidia (or strict use of nvidia), starting xmonad with startx results in an entirely black screen where I am unable to open terminals. Xmonad is running and does not crash. If I restrict to integrated only, then I can use xmonad as expected. I am happy to investigate anything on my end to facilitate this, but I'm unsure where to start.
2022-11-04 22:55:50 +0100 <mojowings[m]> * I have a system 76 laptop with integrated and nvidia graphics. I have used xmonad for years but my actual understanding of WM related things is sadly shallow so apologies for the potentially simple question.
2022-11-04 22:55:50 +0100 <mojowings[m]> When I set hybrid use of integrated and nvidia (or strict use of nvidia), starting xmonad with startx (or via the login manager) results in an entirely black screen where I am unable to open terminals. Xmonad is running and does not crash. If I restrict to integrated only, then I can use xmonad as expected. I am happy to investigate anything on my end to facilitate this, but I'm unsure where to start.
2022-11-04 22:59:31 +0100 <jabuxas> what distro are you using and how are the drivers installed?
2022-11-04 23:00:35 +0100 <mojowings[m]> I am using pop!_os which handles these things for me.
2022-11-04 23:02:07 +0100 <jabuxas> oh yeah stupid question of me, totally forgot pop os is from system76
2022-11-04 23:03:05 +0100 <jabuxas> do you have any other wm installed where you can try and launch to see if it works as expected?
2022-11-04 23:03:16 +0100 <mojowings[m]> * No worries! I am usually a debian or ubuntu user but pop os is based on ubuntu. Typically xmonad works fine for me on ubuntu so I was surprised by this.
2022-11-04 23:04:54 +0100 <mojowings[m]> ahhh no i dont. it does work in integrated only mode. i wish there was a straightforward way to debug this but it probably involves x11 understanding etc...
2022-11-04 23:15:09 +0100 <geekosaur> can you post your Xorg.0.log to a pastebin?
2022-11-04 23:15:13 +0100 <geekosaur> @where paste
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2022-11-04 23:15:35 +0100 <geekosaur> should be /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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