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2022-10-29 00:32:48 +0200thyriaen_(~thyriaen@2a01:aea0:dd4:470d:6245:cbff:fe9f:48b1)
2022-10-29 00:33:42 +0200 <thyriaen_> Is there a way to not draw a border around a specific application ? and is there a way to have a certain workspace always use fullscreen ( or make a workspace fullscreen as soon as a certain application appears ? )
2022-10-29 00:35:16 +0200 <vrs> thyriaen_: smartborders in https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Layout-NoBorders.html and https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Layout-PerWorkspace.html
2022-10-29 00:38:58 +0200 <geekosaur> \smartBorders would be all apps in a workspace though, not a specific app
2022-10-29 00:39:51 +0200 <geekosaur> manageHook: className =? "Whatever" --> ask >>= \w -> liftX (withDisplay $ \d -> io $ setWindowBorderWidth d w 0 >> idHook)
2022-10-29 01:23:23 +0200 <[Leary]> `setInitialProperties` runs in `windows` afterwards, so it won't stick if you change border width in the `manageHook`.
2022-10-29 01:24:07 +0200 <geekosaur> sigh. I keep forgetting that
2022-10-29 01:24:14 +0200geekosaurwonders if that can be reordered
2022-10-29 01:24:21 +0200 <[Leary]> Looks like X.H.BorderPerWindow can do it, though, by postponing the action to the `logHook`.
2022-10-29 01:24:24 +0200 <[Leary]> thyriaen_: ^
2022-10-29 01:26:20 +0200 <[Leary]> Re the reording, frankly it's weird for `setInitialProperties` to run anywhere but `manage`. Maybe it's necessary for reading in old windowsets from the state file or something?
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2022-10-29 01:32:35 +0200 <thyriaen_> i will look into it thanks
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2022-10-29 01:40:22 +0200 <geekosaur> you'd want a changed borderWidth to take effect across mod-q
2022-10-29 01:40:59 +0200 <[Leary]> Ah, right.
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2022-10-29 02:18:35 +0200 <dminuoso> geekosaur: xwininfo says its the root window
2022-10-29 02:23:08 +0200 <dminuoso> Im starting to think, is there a way to get information about *all* windows currently active?
2022-10-29 02:24:58 +0200 <dminuoso> I think I have a window id
2022-10-29 02:25:05 +0200 <geekosaur> queryTree starting from the root window for all windows, W.integrate' for windows in the StackSet
2022-10-29 02:25:18 +0200 <dminuoso> `wmctrl -l` seemed like the easier thing :)
2022-10-29 02:27:32 +0200 <dminuoso> https://gist.github.com/dminuoso/a613cb39b04c9dc6895f0d9573f1e58a
2022-10-29 02:27:38 +0200 <dminuoso> Im about 70% sure its the right window
2022-10-29 02:29:22 +0200 <dminuoso> Window type: Huddles-host-draw-window
2022-10-29 02:33:08 +0200 <dminuoso> That... seems like breaking the specs
2022-10-29 02:33:20 +0200 <dminuoso> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s05.html
2022-10-29 02:33:23 +0200 <dminuoso> _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE
2022-10-29 02:33:33 +0200 <dminuoso> `The Client SHOULD specify window types in order of preference (the first being most preferable) but MUST include at least one of the basic window type atoms from the list below. This is to allow for extension of the list of types whilst providing default behavior for Window Managers that do not recognize the extensions.`
2022-10-29 02:35:58 +0200 <liskin> Yeah inventing new ewmh window types is not something you're meant to do these days
2022-10-29 02:36:27 +0200 <liskin> Even if you tried to actually discuss it with the community and standardize it you'd still be told to fuck off
2022-10-29 02:38:00 +0200 <dminuoso> Im more concerned with the lack of a basic type at all.
2022-10-29 02:38:24 +0200 <dminuoso> Meaning there's no fallback if you dont support this magic exotic window type (which by itself dont really care about)
2022-10-29 02:39:45 +0200 <dminuoso> Can this explain the behavior? Im trying to find any refernece in xmonad where the window type is being inspected in vain
2022-10-29 02:52:16 +0200 <liskin> I'm unfortunately drunk and half asleep so unable to help further at this point.
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2022-10-29 07:52:37 +0200 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/772 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/772
2022-10-29 07:52:37 +0200 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Illia Bobyr https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/772 * v0.17.1-53-g5ee71cf0: EwmhDesktops: _NET_CLIENT_LIST_STACKING: In focus order (37 minutes ago, 2 files, 30+ 4-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/5ee71cf05681
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2022-10-29 11:07:08 +0200 <thyriaen> is there a focus screen on hover ? because when i mouse over a window in my 2nd screen and then press mod-shift-2 it throws the window into my first screen - i first have to click one time on my second monitor giving it "real" focus -- so there is this strange phase where a window on my 2nd monitor has focus but my monitor does not yet
2022-10-29 11:07:42 +0200 <thyriaen> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/tW5WjuR5
2022-10-29 11:24:14 +0200 <thyriaen> brb
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2022-10-29 11:55:17 +0200 <dminuoso> Mmm, this window is iconified.
2022-10-29 11:55:42 +0200 <thyriaen> iconified ?
2022-10-29 11:55:49 +0200 <dminuoso> Yes
2022-10-29 11:55:58 +0200 <dminuoso> Not talking about your problem, though.
2022-10-29 13:26:33 +0200 <thyriaen> what do you mean ?
2022-10-29 13:32:10 +0200 <thyriaen> i have the same issue as https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/364 but my window shows the root window
2022-10-29 13:59:34 +0200 <thyriaen> another "issue" i have: if i have a twopane layout i want to have a single button to push a window form left to right pane and if i press it again to the right monitor and another button for the other direction
2022-10-29 14:00:15 +0200 <thyriaen> and can i set default layouts of my workspaces ?
2022-10-29 14:08:29 +0200 <thyriaen> i basically want this behaviour in all 4 cases of setups: https://ibb.co/drt1319
2022-10-29 14:08:42 +0200 <thyriaen> with one button
2022-10-29 14:25:32 +0200 <[Leary]> thyriaen: An approach that may or may not work is via X.A.MessageFeedback. If moving a window in a direction that's a no-op is treated as an unhandled message, then you can get that feedback and fall back on a shift-monitor action.
2022-10-29 14:31:12 +0200 <thyriaen> Leary I think that is outside of my abilities
2022-10-29 14:35:22 +0200 <[Leary]> So rather than `sendMessage (Move R)`, it would be `do { handled <- sendMessageB (Move R); unless handled $ ... }`.
2022-10-29 14:37:54 +0200 <thyriaen> i think i am also missing the Move R thing entirely
2022-10-29 14:38:02 +0200 <thyriaen> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/tW5WjuR5
2022-10-29 14:47:02 +0200 <[Leary]> Well your layout seems to use WindowNavigation already. That's where `Move` is from; it probably just works. I don't use the module myself, so I don't know the details.
2022-10-29 14:47:50 +0200 <thyriaen> Leary ah so Move R will just work ? ok i will check it
2022-10-29 14:51:48 +0200 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-51-geaab5bfb: New module: XMonad.Hooks.OnPropertyChange (31 hours ago, 4 files, 138+ 97-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/eaab5bfbbace
2022-10-29 14:51:48 +0200 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-54-gc27a1f07: Merge pull request #770 from slotThe/bikeshed/dynamicproperty (3 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/c27a1f07915a
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2022-10-29 20:00:33 +0200 <kora9> Hmm. I'm trying to use the Network plugin of xmobar to list my WireGuard VPN interface but it's not appearing, and there isn't an error message. Anyone have any experience with this?
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2022-10-29 21:39:04 +0200ElKowar(~ElKowar@srv-fin.xware-gmbh.de)
2022-10-29 23:01:08 +0200 <kora9> Fixed it :)
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