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2022-09-30 01:19:37 +0000 <Linux> use the noTaskbar
2022-09-30 01:20:29 +0000 <geekosaur> that doesn't hide the NSP workspace though
2022-09-30 01:20:50 +0000 <Linux> Oh you can hide the NSP workspace?
2022-09-30 01:20:52 +0000 <Linux> How?
2022-09-30 01:22:20 +0000 <Linux> I see
2022-09-30 01:22:43 +0000 <Linux> manageHook = manageDocks <+> myManageHook <+> namedScratchpadManageHook scratchpads <+> manageHook def <- I have like so
2022-09-30 01:22:52 +0000 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar-PP.html#v:fi…
2022-09-30 01:23:10 +0000 <geekosaur> but that's for xmobar, not for polybar
2022-09-30 01:23:30 +0000 <geekosaur> if it uses EWMH to get workspace information then you have to do something trickier
2022-09-30 01:23:35 +0000 <Linux> I see
2022-09-30 01:23:45 +0000 <Linux> I'd like to hid NSP on the KDE plasma panel I use
2022-09-30 01:23:51 +0000 <Linux> Any idea about that?
2022-09-30 01:24:11 +0000 <Linux> I also used dynamic log from years ago, and probably need to update to statusbar the one you linked
2022-09-30 01:24:11 +0000 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Util-WorkspaceCompare.html#v…
2022-09-30 01:24:48 +0000 <geekosaur> the docs tell you how to use it to filter NSP out of the EWMH workspaces, so polybar and plasma-panel won't see it
2022-09-30 01:24:55 +0000 <Linux> Ok I will try it
2022-09-30 01:25:05 +0000 <Linux> I don't know the language of haskell
2022-09-30 01:25:07 +0000 <Linux> :)
2022-09-30 01:25:26 +0000 <geekosaur> I'm not going to be up a whole lot longer though
2022-09-30 01:25:35 +0000 <geekosaur> maybe someone else can help
2022-09-30 01:25:37 +0000 <Linux> I'm not in a rush, I'll try it round, see what I can do
2022-09-30 01:25:48 +0000 <Linux> I will come back later when you guys are awake and have time
2022-09-30 01:25:49 +0000 <geekosaur> (my sleep monitor is already yelling at me because I'm not in bed yet)
2022-09-30 01:25:52 +0000 <Linux> Ok thanks man
2022-09-30 01:25:54 +0000 <Linux> I appreciate you
2022-09-30 01:40:14 +0000 <Linux> xmproc <- spawnPipe ("/usr/bin/xmobar ~/.xmobar/xmobarrc") <- am I still supposed to run xmobar like this?
2022-09-30 02:01:45 +0000 <Linux> Hello I have tried to update my xmonad/mobar config to .17
2022-09-30 02:01:53 +0000 <Linux> https://bpa.st/IGWQ <- xmonad.hs
2022-09-30 02:01:59 +0000 <Linux> https://bpa.st/4ZQA xmobarrc
2022-09-30 02:02:11 +0000 <Linux> I get no errors, but also, I don't get xmobar anymore. It doesn't launch/run.
2022-09-30 02:02:20 +0000 <Linux> What am I doing wrong?
2022-09-30 02:02:59 +0000 <Linux> -- xmproc <- spawnPipe ("/usr/bin/xmobar ~/.xmobar/xmobarrc") <- I commented this out.
2022-09-30 02:03:24 +0000 <Linux> mySB = statusBarProp "xmobar" (pure def) I added this line 283
2022-09-30 02:03:42 +0000 <Linux> line 288: xmonad . withSB mySB $ docks $ ewmhFullscreen . ewmh $ def <- I added mySB here
2022-09-30 02:04:10 +0000 <Linux> , logHook = myLogHook -- <+> myXmobarLogHook xmproc <- then I commented out the xmobarlog hook and xmproc
2022-09-30 02:04:37 +0000 <Linux> https://bpa.st/4ZQA#1L40 Run XMonadLog, in xmobarrc
2022-09-30 02:04:45 +0000 <Linux> -- Run StdinReader comment this out
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2022-09-30 02:04:52 +0000 <Linux> template = "%XMonadLog% load this in template
2022-09-30 02:05:14 +0000 <Linux> I did all the things they said, and I get no errors, but I get no bar. Am I still supposed to run the bar with Spawn?
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2022-09-30 02:15:28 +0000 <Linux> nm, my xmobar binary path was wrong
2022-09-30 02:15:38 +0000 <Linux> I build latest in stack and removed /usr/bin that came from ubuntu
2022-09-30 02:15:51 +0000 <Linux> xmproc <- spawnPipe ("/home/stoned/.local/bin/xmobar ~/.xmobar/xmobarrc") <- without spawnpip I can't get it
2022-09-30 02:15:55 +0000 <Linux> so please advise.
2022-09-30 02:23:26 +0000 <Linux> also the xmobar I build from stack, won't use my configured font
2022-09-30 02:23:52 +0000banc(banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc)
2022-09-30 02:24:47 +0000 <Linux> xmobar from ubuntu respects my config. So maybe I didn't build it right?
2022-09-30 02:25:05 +0000 <Linux> back to using dynamiclog for the time being, until we can figure out statusbarpp stuff
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2022-09-30 09:42:18 +0000 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib alexandersokolow * v0.17.1-20-g9e55ae91: expose more messages in MouseResizableTile layout (16 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/9e55ae9184a5
2022-09-30 09:42:18 +0000 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-21-ge15f2d17: Merge pull request #758 from alexandersokolow/master (4 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/e15f2d17e54d
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2022-09-30 17:01:03 +0000 <geekosaur> whoops! that's embarrassing
2022-09-30 17:01:16 +0000liskin[m](~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768)
2022-09-30 17:01:53 +0000 <geekosaur> was about to file a bug report against cabal for not doing a rebuild when I pulled the above change… went in to reproduce it, discovered I was on a dev branch instead of master…
2022-09-30 17:02:08 +0000 <geekosaur> (so I didn't actually get the change)
2022-09-30 17:05:27 +0000 <geekosaur> at least I discovered it before I filed the issue
2022-09-30 17:32:51 +0000 <mekeor[m]> geekosaur: relieved to see that even experienced experts like you, make silly little mistakes sometimes :)
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2022-09-30 23:25:24 +0000 <HP-UX> https://ia802309.us.archive.org/4/items/TheStumpWMExperience/TheStumpWMExperience.ogg
2022-09-30 23:25:32 +0000 <HP-UX> People have been trying to sell me on spatial navigation in stumpwm
2022-09-30 23:25:37 +0000 <HP-UX> Does Xmonad have anything similar?
2022-09-30 23:25:42 +0000 <HP-UX> https://demosthenes.org/tmp/StumpWMSpatialGroups.mp4
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2022-09-30 23:30:46 +0000geekosaurhas sensory difficulties and as such will not be watching videos to find out
2022-09-30 23:33:46 +0000 <mekeor[m]> having skimmed the videos, i'd guess (!) that it's about selecting/focusing a certain window by using three numbers: one for the workspace; and two other for column and row (or coordinates, if you will)
2022-09-30 23:36:05 +0000 <geekosaur> sounds like something WindowNavigation could be adapted to do
2022-09-30 23:36:56 +0000 <HP-UX> Hmm
2022-09-30 23:37:39 +0000 <HP-UX> It's like, every 'workspace' is a 'desktop' in stump, and each desktop has arbitrarfy number of windows, arranged in a grid, and you can navigate to them using arrow keys, so you know which way is what app... apparently
2022-09-30 23:40:00 +0000 <HP-UX> XMonad.Actions.WindowNavigation : This module is experimental. You'll have better luck with the original.
2022-09-30 23:40:12 +0000 <HP-UX> Hmm. I wonder if it's gonna be okay to try
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2022-09-30 23:46:23 +0000 <HP-UX> So using the window navigation, how would you layout windows in a grid, full screen, to navigate using u/d/l/r keys
2022-09-30 23:46:32 +0000 <HP-UX> like
2022-09-30 23:46:45 +0000 <HP-UX> []
2022-09-30 23:46:48 +0000 <HP-UX> [] [] []
2022-09-30 23:47:13 +0000 <HP-UX> So if you'e on left, you have to go middle to go up, can't just go from left one to up, like that
2022-09-30 23:47:28 +0000 <HP-UX> that's one workspace, and in that workspace, windows are laid out like this in a grid
2022-09-30 23:47:40 +0000 <HP-UX> How is this possible?
2022-09-30 23:53:53 +0000 <HP-UX> There is an actions gridselect...
2022-09-30 23:54:02 +0000 <HP-UX> X.A.GridSeelct
2022-09-30 23:54:33 +0000 <HP-UX> Oh no that's not it. Doh.
2022-09-30 23:55:31 +0000 <geekosaur> X.L.Grid{,Variants}?
2022-09-30 23:57:30 +0000 <HP-UX> in a workspace, how can windows be laid out using xy grid like coordinates, like cener is [-1,0] [0,0] [1,0]
2022-09-30 23:58:01 +0000 <HP-UX> [0,-1]
2022-09-30 23:58:03 +0000 <HP-UX> [-1,0] [0,0] [1,0]
2022-09-30 23:58:09 +0000 <HP-UX> etc...
2022-09-30 23:58:54 +0000 <HP-UX> you can define how to layout windows like this in a workspace, and switch to them using left/right/arrow stuff
2022-09-30 23:59:34 +0000 <HP-UX> [-2,0] [-1,0] [0,0] [1,0] [2,0] ... so forth, if that makes sense.
2022-09-30 23:59:47 +0000 <geekosaur> I don't think we have a layout that works like that as such; most people want layouts that use as much of the screen space as possible, not leave lots of space in the corners