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2022-08-28 07:46:57 +0200 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.0-236-gc701a750: X.P.OrgMode: Require whitespace before priority (13 minutes ago, 2 files, 30+ 15-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/c701a75002bf
2022-08-28 07:57:02 +0200 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Brandon S Allbery KF8NH * v0.17.0-237-gf5de0fc7: Document `WNConfig` (12 hours ago, 1 file, 17+ 5-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/f5de0fc7647d
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2022-08-28 11:12:31 +0200 <thyriaen> Howdy I have some bug in my dualTab layout ( line 158 ) - when there is only one window open i lose my spacingRaw - how can i avoid this ?
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2022-08-28 11:14:05 +0200 <thyriaen> ah i am dumb - reading the documentation helps :p i found it
2022-08-28 11:15:03 +0200 <thyriaen> no actually - i have set the smartBorder to false - so it should infact display the gap but it doesn't
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2022-08-28 15:09:41 +0200 <thyriaen> Howdy I have some bug in my dualTab layout ( line 158 ) - when there is only one window open i lose my spacingRaw - how can i avoid this ? https://paste.sqt.wtf/d639dc
2022-08-28 15:12:45 +0200 <thyriaen> And is there a way to make the border of my windows include the tabs and not just around the window itself ?
2022-08-28 15:15:35 +0200 <geekosaur> the tabs have their own borders, since they're actually independent windows. and the borders are built into the windows, so can't be expanded
2022-08-28 15:18:18 +0200 <thyriaen> is it possible to remove the borders on the top when taps are on them and change the outer borders of the tabs ? :p
2022-08-28 15:18:21 +0200 <geekosaur> I don't see any reason why spacingRaw would cease working; tabs generally go away if there's only one window, but that's independent
2022-08-28 15:18:48 +0200 <geekosaur> you can change the borders of the tabs, but they can't be controlled per side
2022-08-28 15:19:01 +0200 <thyriaen> geekosaur, yeath, the taps do go away but when i only have one window in the dualTabs view i have no gaps
2022-08-28 15:19:20 +0200 <geekosaur> yes, I read that
2022-08-28 15:19:34 +0200 <geekosaur> it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, that's independent of the tabs
2022-08-28 15:19:52 +0200 <thyriaen> i thought the first boolean value controls if the gaps are smart or not
2022-08-28 15:20:14 +0200 <thyriaen> and since i set it to false it shouldn't go away if only one window exist
2022-08-28 15:20:45 +0200 <thyriaen> i think it has something todo with the combining of the twoPane layout - which layout is chosen when there is only one window ?
2022-08-28 15:22:02 +0200 <[Leary]> Looks like it doesn't use either of them.
2022-08-28 15:22:33 +0200 <thyriaen> can I define a fallback layout when there is only one window somehow ?
2022-08-28 15:23:00 +0200 <[Leary]> I suggest you try pulling addTabs and gap outside of combineTwo first.
2022-08-28 15:23:03 +0200 <geekosaur> XMonad.Layout.IfMax
2022-08-28 15:23:33 +0200 <[Leary]> (You *can*, but it will make your layout hackier.)
2022-08-28 15:23:53 +0200 <thyriaen> [Leary], i think there are some spacing issues with the tabs then - i remember i had it this way a few weeks ago
2022-08-28 15:24:35 +0200geekosauris remembering that, yeh
2022-08-28 15:24:42 +0200 <[Leary]> The problem then was that gap was outside of tabs. So long as you apply those two in the right order, you should be able to put combineTwo inside.
2022-08-28 15:24:54 +0200 <[Leary]> iirc anyway
2022-08-28 15:25:11 +0200 <[Leary]> Seems like addTabs just wants to be outermost
2022-08-28 15:26:29 +0200 <thyriaen> ah
2022-08-28 15:26:33 +0200 <[Leary]> Well, I'm not certain how clever addTabs is, it might not actually handle combineTwo properly, that might require sublayouts...
2022-08-28 15:26:33 +0200 <thyriaen> so you suggest
2022-08-28 15:26:52 +0200 <thyriaen> addTabs gap combineTwo
2022-08-28 15:26:55 +0200 <thyriaen> in that order ?
2022-08-28 15:27:08 +0200 <[Leary]> Yeah, at least give it a try.
2022-08-28 15:27:30 +0200 <geekosaur> addTabs isn't very clever
2022-08-28 15:27:52 +0200 <geekosaur> it's also abusing Decoration in ways that sometimes cause problems
2022-08-28 15:30:02 +0200 <thyriaen> i am having trouble creating anything that compiles :p
2022-08-28 15:31:16 +0200 <thyriaen> gap $ addTabs shrinkText myTabConfig ( TwoPane 0.03 0.5 ) -- this gives me something but without tabs at all
2022-08-28 15:32:15 +0200 <geekosaur> I was trying to figure out why [Leary] would suggest that, since the "tabs" would be for the sublayouts, but those aren't actually windows and would confuse it
2022-08-28 15:32:34 +0200 <thyriaen> yea
2022-08-28 15:32:42 +0200 <thyriaen> i think the tabs should be directly at the window
2022-08-28 15:32:47 +0200 <thyriaen> and not at the layout
2022-08-28 15:33:55 +0200 <[Leary]> I was thinking: dualTab = addTabs shrinkText myTabConfig . gap $ combineTwo (TwoPane 0.03 0.5) Simplest Simplest
2022-08-28 15:34:19 +0200 <[Leary]> But I do suspect it's not quite right.
2022-08-28 15:34:28 +0200 <thyriaen> did you run it ?
2022-08-28 15:36:15 +0200 <thyriaen> Ambiguous type variable 'a0' arising from a use of 'combineTwo'
2022-08-28 15:38:07 +0200 <thyriaen> it actually works :p
2022-08-28 15:38:49 +0200 <thyriaen> now it would be good for me to understand whats going on with that .
2022-08-28 15:39:47 +0200 <thyriaen> i know it is a combination of functions but how to rewrite it without the . ?
2022-08-28 15:40:11 +0200 <[Leary]> . is function composition: f $ g $ x === f . g $ x === (f . g) x === f (g x)
2022-08-28 15:41:44 +0200 <thyriaen> thanks
2022-08-28 15:46:16 +0200 <thyriaen> i found something really really interesting
2022-08-28 15:48:11 +0200 <thyriaen> this does work: https://paste.sqt.wtf/24cb24
2022-08-28 15:49:16 +0200 <thyriaen> and so does this https://paste.sqt.wtf/fb824b
2022-08-28 15:49:55 +0200 <thyriaen> but this doesn't https://paste.sqt.wtf/38f88c, because myTest has two different types now
2022-08-28 15:51:28 +0200 <[Leary]> It would probably work if you gave it a general enough type signature, or disabled the MonomorphismRestriction.
2022-08-28 15:52:01 +0200 <thyriaen> okay what would be the correct type of it ? xD
2022-08-28 15:53:29 +0200 <[Leary]> You can probably read it off the docs for `addTabs`. GHC might be able to tell you if you give it a "hole" to fill like: `myTest :: _`
2022-08-28 15:53:48 +0200 <thyriaen> oh really ?
2022-08-28 15:56:06 +0200 <[Leary]> By the way, if you want to take your test further, you should be able to move `gap` in there too, then apply `myTest` outside of the ||| those two layout share.
2022-08-28 15:57:24 +0200 <thyriaen> i don't quite catch how the syntax should be for that
2022-08-28 15:57:33 +0200 <thyriaen> but yeath the gap should also be in there
2022-08-28 15:58:00 +0200 <thyriaen> myTest x = addTabs shrinkText myTabConfig ( gap x ) ?
2022-08-28 15:59:40 +0200 <[Leary]> Normally this is where you use composition, but that is equivalent, yes.
2022-08-28 15:59:55 +0200 <thyriaen> ah you mean
2022-08-28 16:00:11 +0200 <thyriaen> addTabs shrinkText myTabConfig . gap
2022-08-28 16:00:18 +0200 <[Leary]> Right.
2022-08-28 16:00:31 +0200 <thyriaen> ah
2022-08-28 16:00:40 +0200 <thyriaen> when i use my x notation it works fine
2022-08-28 16:00:49 +0200 <thyriaen> with the . it again can't figure out the type T_T
2022-08-28 16:02:17 +0200 <thyriaen> could you help me figure out the right type for it ?
2022-08-28 16:02:24 +0200 <geekosaur> likely the monomorphism restriction, but also haskell has trouble inferring types of layouts when they're not used
2022-08-28 16:02:35 +0200 <thyriaen> i wonder
2022-08-28 16:02:43 +0200 <geekosaur> [Leary] already pointed out the use of holes
2022-08-28 16:02:47 +0200 <thyriaen> isn't combineTwo (TwoPane 0.03 0.5) Simplest Simplest just TwoPane ?
2022-08-28 16:02:59 +0200 <geekosaur> you could also give it an incorrect type and have it tell you the correct one
2022-08-28 16:03:19 +0200ectospasm(~ectospasm@user/ectospasm)
2022-08-28 16:03:41 +0200 <geekosaur> not quite, since you have to manually move windows between panes
2022-08-28 16:03:59 +0200 <geekosaur> (this actually gives you more control than you;d normally have, I think)
2022-08-28 16:04:39 +0200 <thyriaen> i am not quite successful with the _
2022-08-28 16:05:30 +0200 <geekosaur> can you pastebin the error it produces? (it always produces one, unless you enable an extension that allows it to proceed with the inferred type)
2022-08-28 16:05:52 +0200 <thyriaen> i somehow cannot copy out of the xmessage window
2022-08-28 16:06:06 +0200 <thyriaen> ah there is an error log somewhere, right ?
2022-08-28 16:06:51 +0200 <thyriaen> https://termbin.com/ogwn
2022-08-28 16:07:44 +0200 <[Leary]> This is why we don't bother giving our layout helpers types in xmonad. <.<
2022-08-28 16:07:59 +0200 <[Leary]> It just becomes a mess.
2022-08-28 16:08:07 +0200 <thyriaen> hihi
2022-08-28 16:09:29 +0200 <[Leary]> In any case, you *could* copy that type signature, generalising the argument type (and where it appears in the result type) to some type variable `l`.
2022-08-28 16:10:17 +0200 <[Leary]> But I would just use {-# LANGUAGE NoMonomorphisRestriction #-} at the top of the config.
2022-08-28 16:10:28 +0200 <[Leary]> It's GHC's job to infer these things for you.
2022-08-28 16:10:49 +0200 <[Leary]> phism*
2022-08-28 16:10:49 +0200 <thyriaen> what is a good reason for there being MonomorphisRestrictions enabled ?
2022-08-28 16:10:58 +0200 <geekosaur> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L51 ๐Ÿ™‚
2022-08-28 16:11:26 +0200 <[Leary]> It helps share work in some cases.
2022-08-28 16:11:43 +0200 <[Leary]> Here, I don't think it really matters.
2022-08-28 16:12:45 +0200 <thyriaen> awesome
2022-08-28 16:12:55 +0200 <thyriaen> works and looks cleaner aswell :p
2022-08-28 16:15:34 +0200 <thyriaen> i love haskell so much
2022-08-28 16:15:44 +0200 <thyriaen> although it really messes up my head
2022-08-28 16:22:22 +0200 <geekosaur> it does that to a lot of people ๐Ÿ™‚
2022-08-28 16:23:05 +0200 <thyriaen> i always wondered why on earth do i want to use a language with lots of abstraction like java when i can just use c
2022-08-28 16:23:29 +0200 <geekosaur> I can think of lots of reasons. starting woth, er, strings
2022-08-28 16:23:30 +0200 <thyriaen> until i met haskell and i never wanted to go back to imperative stuff
2022-08-28 16:23:33 +0200 <geekosaur> *with
2022-08-28 16:24:13 +0200 <thyriaen> yea sure - but i am talking about the object orientation stuff
2022-08-28 16:24:28 +0200 <thyriaen> sure it is nice to have sane data types :p
2022-08-28 16:25:09 +0200 <thyriaen> https://paste.sqt.wtf/a8aa26 this is now a thing of beauty
2022-08-28 16:25:28 +0200 <thyriaen> i think i want it on a T-Shirt
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2022-08-28 18:03:05 +0200codehia(~codehia@103.24.85.233)
2022-08-28 18:09:08 +0200 <geekosaur> hm. Solid, someone needs help with multiscreen xmobar in -unlogged
2022-08-28 18:24:35 +0200codehia10(~codehia@103.24.85.233)
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2022-08-28 18:25:36 +0200catman(~catman@user/catman) (Quit: WeeChat 3.6)
2022-08-28 18:25:49 +0200codehia49(~codehia@103.24.85.233) (Client Quit)
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2022-08-28 18:34:45 +0200alternateved(~user@staticline-31-183-146-203.toya.net.pl) (Remote host closed the connection)
2022-08-28 19:15:48 +0200 <geekosaur> going to be debugging my network for a bit. popping off irc; the bot I will try to keep running but don't be surprised if it falls off too
2022-08-28 19:15:55 +0200geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Quit: Leaving)
2022-08-28 19:27:07 +0200geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur)
2022-08-28 19:30:46 +0200jao-(~jao@cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
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2022-08-28 20:11:53 +0200 <geekosaur> this router issue becomes more peculiar all the timeโ€ฆ
2022-08-28 20:13:22 +0200Magiciandeepy
2022-08-28 21:13:54 +0200wonko(~wjc@2a0e:1c80:2::130)
2022-08-28 21:24:58 +0200codehia(~codehia@103.24.85.233) (Quit: Client closed)
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2022-08-28 23:05:26 +0200catman(~catman@user/catman) (Quit: WeeChat 3.6)
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