| 2022-08-17 00:04:07 +0200 | [Leary] | (~Leary]@122-58-224-198-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-17 01:07:47 +0200 | twiclo1 | (~twiclo@vpn.utahbroadband.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2022-08-17 01:09:59 +0200 | twiclo1 | (~twiclo@mail.twil.cx) |
| 2022-08-17 01:18:20 +0200 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc06:ee00:4f0b:15e9:107f:312) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2022-08-17 01:50:15 +0200 | catman | (~catman@user/catman) |
| 2022-08-17 02:27:50 +0200 | jabuxas | (~jabuxas@2804:14d:ba4c:831e:2ed4:c29b:22c4:6309) |
| 2022-08-17 02:29:29 +0200 | <jabuxas> | hello |
| 2022-08-17 02:30:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hello |
| 2022-08-17 02:31:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (I'm headed off to bed shortly and it doesn't look like anyone else is around at the moment; you may have to wait around a few hours…) |
| 2022-08-17 02:35:03 +0200 | <jabuxas> | its ok |
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| 2022-08-17 03:40:12 +0200 | [Leary] | (~Leary]@122-58-223-158-adsl.sparkbb.co.nz) |
| 2022-08-17 04:02:49 +0200 | banc | (banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
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| 2022-08-17 06:41:19 +0200 | noex | (~null@user/noex) (Quit: :q!) |
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| 2022-08-17 07:16:51 +0200 | steve_ | (~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2022-08-17 07:21:16 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | is there a way to set a certain application to always open on primary display? |
| 2022-08-17 07:21:33 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | and to always go fullscreen on said display |
| 2022-08-17 07:21:40 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | (a game in this case) |
| 2022-08-17 07:27:12 +0200 | <Solid> | that's what the managehook is for |
| 2022-08-17 07:27:25 +0200 | <Solid> | if you can somehow match the window |
| 2022-08-17 07:45:38 +0200 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc06:ee00:4e2b:7ca9:316d:45c) |
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| 2022-08-17 07:54:08 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hmm ok lemme explore that thx |
| 2022-08-17 08:33:01 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-146-203.toya.net.pl) |
| 2022-08-17 08:43:29 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-146-203.toya.net.pl) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2022-08-17 11:00:49 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
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| 2022-08-17 14:11:18 +0200 | <Solid> | uff, munic is expensive :/ |
| 2022-08-17 14:11:32 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) |
| 2022-08-17 14:15:34 +0200 | <Solid> | s/ic/ich/ |
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| 2022-08-17 14:50:31 +0200 | catman | (~catman@user/catman) (Quit: WeeChat 3.6) |
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| 2022-08-17 15:52:40 +0200 | <Zedgamer9128[m]> | Is there any command to open an app in workspace from the terminal like i want to open nvim in workspace 2 directly from the commandline |
| 2022-08-17 15:55:00 +0200 | <vrs> | you'll have to set up a managehook |
| 2022-08-17 15:55:43 +0200 | <vrs> | I tend to use hookNext from https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-ToggleHook.html#v:hook… |
| 2022-08-17 15:56:17 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | There isn't really a reliable way to associate a terminal command with a window opening since unix is asynchronous |
| 2022-08-17 15:57:07 +0200 | <vrs> | yeah but the unreliable way works 99% of the time |
| 2022-08-17 15:57:17 +0200 | <vrs> | if you're not spawning many windows at once that is |
| 2022-08-17 17:09:10 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-146-203.toya.net.pl) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2022-08-17 19:08:59 +0200 | Maeda | (~Maeda@91-161-10-149.subs.proxad.net) |
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| 2022-08-17 19:18:31 +0200 | Maeda | (~Maeda@91-161-10-149.subs.proxad.net) |
| 2022-08-17 19:20:26 +0200 | <Maeda> | Hello there, is it possible to use relative paths (like "~/") with appendFilePrompt to specify the notes file? |
| 2022-08-17 19:22:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that's not a relative path, but it is using a shell metacharacter and appendFilePrompt does not go through the shell |
| 2022-08-17 19:25:12 +0200 | <Solid> | we have some function that expands ~/ in X.Prelude now, so I would imagine it'd just be a matter of telling X.P.AppendFile about it |
| 2022-08-17 19:25:36 +0200 | <Maeda> | I think I saw some other supporting this (I might be wrong of course). |
| 2022-08-17 19:26:02 +0200 | <davean> | ~ isn't even POSIX is it? Its shell specific I think. If you want the POSIX version its $HOME? |
| 2022-08-17 19:26:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | probably put it in doAppend |
| 2022-08-17 19:26:19 +0200 | <davean> | I think ~ is a cshellism |
| 2022-08-17 19:26:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but we don't expand envars either, we just call appendFile directly |
| 2022-08-17 19:26:39 +0200 | <davean> | Oh I'm just saying it isn't clear what ~ does |
| 2022-08-17 19:26:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and yes, ~ is a cshellism that made its way into bash and zsh |
| 2022-08-17 19:27:13 +0200 | <geekosaur> | along with its cousin ~username |
| 2022-08-17 19:27:16 +0200 | <Maeda> | $HOME might be OK too, I just want to avoid the full path |
| 2022-08-17 19:27:32 +0200 | <davean> | Right, so the only way to expand ~ correctly is "ask the shell" |
| 2022-08-17 19:27:38 +0200 | <davean> | we DO know how $HOME works |
| 2022-08-17 19:27:58 +0200 | <davean> | zsh has a lot of stuff around ~ |
| 2022-08-17 19:28:05 +0200 | <Maeda> | Out of the box $HOME will not work with appendFile, am I right? |
| 2022-08-17 19:28:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | correct because we don't handle envars either |
| 2022-08-17 19:29:10 +0200 | jeeeun4 | (~jeeeun@78.40.148.178) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2022-08-17 19:29:35 +0200 | geekosaur | looks at mkAbsolutePath and immediately dislikes it |
| 2022-08-17 19:31:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Prelude.hs#L112-L118 the default case seems like it's just asking to confuse people |
| 2022-08-17 19:33:00 +0200 | jeeeun4 | (~jeeeun@78.40.148.178) |
| 2022-08-17 19:33:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | Maeda, since 99% of the time (100% if using a display manager to log in) your current directory will be $HOME, you can probably just use a relative pathname |
| 2022-08-17 19:33:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and the remaining 1% of the time you probably didn't intend to run startx from somewhere other than ~ |
| 2022-08-17 19:35:41 +0200 | <Maeda> | $HOME is already known in the system, so using this in `(("M-n"), appendFilePrompt myXPConfig "$HOME/NOTES")` can make it but need to import that Prelude part to make that $HOME usable. |
| 2022-08-17 19:37:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | no? XMonad.Prelude won't cause environment variables to be expanded. and no import does anything except make functions available for use, it doesn't e.g. change how strings are interpreted |
| 2022-08-17 19:39:36 +0200 | <Maeda> | OK so to use the relative pathname without $HOME (or ~/), do you have some example (just NOTES?) |
| 2022-08-17 19:39:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | just NOTES |
| 2022-08-17 19:40:19 +0200 | Maeda | is trying that NOTES :p |
| 2022-08-17 19:42:00 +0200 | <Maeda> | Works like a charm! Thank you :) |
| 2022-08-17 19:43:03 +0200 | <Solid> | probably not that difficult to ake mkAbsolutePath expand env vars |
| 2022-08-17 19:44:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | right, I just put it on my bucket list |
| 2022-08-17 19:44:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and I looked at the code again and realized it's not quite as WRONG as the comment makes it out to be |
| 2022-08-17 19:44:52 +0200 | <Maeda> | For me it is just that it is not obvious to just type a name and expect it to create in home folder. But at least that works. |
| 2022-08-17 19:48:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | for me it'd be surprising for my basic environment/wm to not be in my home directory |
| 2022-08-17 19:48:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | windows can be wherever but the wm itself should be in ~ |
| 2022-08-17 19:56:24 +0200 | <Solid> | oh, yeah, the comment is wrong |
| 2022-08-17 19:57:44 +0200 | qbt | (~qbt@user/edun) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-17 20:03:22 +0200 | <Solid> | geekosaur: is there some standard as to which characters env var names can include? |
| 2022-08-17 20:05:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap08.html |
| 2022-08-17 20:05:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | names can include anything except an equal sign, but in practice are limited to uppercase letters, digits, and underscore |
| 2022-08-17 20:06:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | in particular shells are unlikely to be able to process names with characters outside of that set |
| 2022-08-17 20:06:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (well, they can handle lowercase, but the shell convention is that names with lowercase in them are process local and all uppercase names come from the environment) |
| 2022-08-17 20:08:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | at one point bash tried to export functions by putting names with parentheses in them in the environment. that ended poorly |
| 2022-08-17 20:09:12 +0200 | zim0369 | (~zim0369@114.143.131.219) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2022-08-17 20:10:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *lots* of programs that look at envars crashed on encountering those names, not just non-bash shells |
| 2022-08-17 20:11:14 +0200 | zim0369 | (~zim0369@114.143.131.219) |
| 2022-08-17 20:16:58 +0200 | <Solid> | hah |
| 2022-08-17 20:17:03 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'm struggling a bit with workspaces and projects, i have these different projects built. like for ex i have one that is 3 terminals. but i can't seem to get keybinds working to switch between projects. yet whenever my leftmost monitor is empty, if i click it suddenly 3 terminals show up (aka my project)... |
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