| 2022-08-15 00:03:25 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | not for me personally, i'm just curious if there are plans to move. i'm under the impression that wayland has a lot of advantages over x11 |
| 2022-08-15 00:05:31 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it also has a bunch of disadvantages though. it's crashy still, it still doesn't handle multiple monitors even as well as x11 does (even though it has the potential to do better), etc. |
| 2022-08-15 00:06:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if an x11 component wigs out you can restart it. if something connected to the compositor wigs out your whole session is toast |
| 2022-08-15 00:09:16 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it still handles the case of an internal standard res monitor and an external 4k monitor worse than x11, even though it should be better |
| 2022-08-15 00:12:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | red hat was forced by its customers to commit to x11 support through 2030 because they rejected wayland |
| 2022-08-15 00:18:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | anyway, it's on the list, there isn't a lot of rush for it though |
| 2022-08-15 00:19:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we'll probably have to pay someone to write it given the compositor situation in wayland (that is, that we would have to provide our own and the compositor is effectively the equivalent of an X11 server) |
| 2022-08-15 00:22:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the current waymonad uses sway's compositor, which is a poor fit and leads to it being unstable |
| 2022-08-15 00:23:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | especially since sway makes no promises about api/abi stability of wlroots for uses other than sway itself |
| 2022-08-15 00:29:24 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hmm ok i didn't realize there were trade offs, i thought basically that wayland was just the new thing |
| 2022-08-15 00:29:32 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | good points |
| 2022-08-15 00:36:56 +0200 | noex | (~null@user/noex) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2022-08-15 00:38:22 +0200 | noex | (~null@user/noex) |
| 2022-08-15 00:44:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | personally I'm still waiting for RH to find itself between a rock and a hard place |
| 2022-08-15 00:44:47 +0200 | <geekosaur> | its customers are still pissed that it forced them over to systemd when it wasn't stable |
| 2022-08-15 00:45:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | they're not sitting still for the same with wayland |
| 2022-08-15 00:45:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but the gnome devs (who de facto are the wayland devs) keep trying to desupport x11 |
| 2022-08-15 00:46:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I suspect they're going to lose some major customers before it gets through that they mean it |
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| 2022-08-15 01:47:27 +0200 | vreahli | (~vreahli@2601:647:5700:1380::59e1) |
| 2022-08-15 01:50:20 +0200 | vreahli10 | (~vreahli@2601:647:5700:1380:7900:ab45:4951:dbee) |
| 2022-08-15 01:51:42 +0200 | <vreahli10> | Heya - I finished compiling xmonad a few hours ago, but after adding it to .xinitrc it runs, the process dies (somewhere), and Xorg stays running. Any ideas on troubleshooting or what to check? |
| 2022-08-15 01:55:32 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | What does your .xinitrc look like? |
| 2022-08-15 01:58:15 +0200 | <vreahli> | Currently: https://gist.github.com/vreahli/a89b54a6f343cca75636f4d75ca40a5c - ending with `exec xmonad` |
| 2022-08-15 02:01:25 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5ce3:8500::a1ec) |
| 2022-08-15 02:05:31 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that implies that xmonad was still running, since the X session would exit when xmonad does |
| 2022-08-15 02:05:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so what's your xmonad.hs? |
| 2022-08-15 02:06:06 +0200 | vreahli10 | (~vreahli@2601:647:5700:1380:7900:ab45:4951:dbee) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-15 02:07:35 +0200 | <vreahli> | Current xmonad.hs here: https://gist.github.com/vreahli/00231e22e6a65feaa9c4db6c17d25677 (the three lines from the starter tutorial.) |
| 2022-08-15 02:08:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | huh. that should not crash. how do you know that the process dies? |
| 2022-08-15 02:08:48 +0200 | <vreahli> | I guessed xmonad stopped because `killall xmonad` couldn't find a process, however `killall Xorg` was able to get rid of the blank screen and return me to the virtual console |
| 2022-08-15 02:09:11 +0200 | <vreahli> | I'm not certain the process died, but it's a guess '=D |
| 2022-08-15 02:09:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | xmonad will have replaced itself by a process named xmonad-x86_64-linux (or whatever arch and system you're on) which is the compiled config |
| 2022-08-15 02:09:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | what happens if you press alt-shift-return? (make sure xterm is installed) |
| 2022-08-15 02:11:23 +0200 | vreahli86 | (~vreahli@2601:647:5700:1380:7900:ab45:4951:dbee) |
| 2022-08-15 02:11:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/afWxOZ2v |
| 2022-08-15 02:12:13 +0200 | vreahli | (~vreahli@2601:647:5700:1380::59e1) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2022-08-15 02:13:33 +0200 | <vreahli86> | Ah - good news - `~/.cache/xmonad/xmonad-x86_64-linux` is alive |
| 2022-08-15 02:14:35 +0200 | <vreahli86> | alt+shift+enter unfortunately doesn't do anything. FWIW, there's also no cursor present. |
| 2022-08-15 02:15:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that sounds odd |
| 2022-08-15 02:15:11 +0200 | <vreahli86> | goddangit - alt+shift+enter works! Apologies! |
| 2022-08-15 02:15:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | again, is xterm installed? these days it's usually not, and overriding the terminal is one of the first things the tutorial has you do |
| 2022-08-15 02:15:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | okay |
| 2022-08-15 02:16:09 +0200 | <vreahli86> | Yup! Xterm is installed, sorry about that! I kept using i3 shortcuts without thinking about it. |
| 2022-08-15 02:16:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | alt-/ shows a cheatsheet if you need a reminder 🙂 |
| 2022-08-15 02:16:49 +0200 | <vreahli86> | Thank you for the help! FWIW I've been stuck on this for a few hours '=D |
| 2022-08-15 02:16:54 +0200 | <vreahli86> | I will never forget that one :D |
| 2022-08-15 02:17:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sorry alt-shift-/ aka alt-? |
| 2022-08-15 02:17:35 +0200 | <vreahli86> | It's all good, I got the cheat sheet up :) |
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| 2022-08-15 12:05:27 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | I need help with this code block:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/14508e951ab2b078a1efee90cfdbbdbb72bb…) |
| 2022-08-15 12:05:31 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | geekosaur: |
| 2022-08-15 12:08:55 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | I want to edit this submap to do:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/25223ac5b155f2e95c7462f0efd5b7626a7c…) |
| 2022-08-15 12:09:35 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | M-o a sends the focus to workspace 1... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9dacd8dac4a0fe87c1f250eb1215e651347e…) |
| 2022-08-15 12:15:01 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | * `M-o a` sends the focus to workspace 1... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/bf9e5886f2a176c2022a580bb321460419c8…) |
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| 2022-08-15 14:17:16 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | how can I make a mod + f toggle keybinding to toggle fullscreen. I am using ewmh fullscreen |
| 2022-08-15 14:25:50 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5ce3:8500::a1ec) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2022-08-15 14:30:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | Alok[m], the application has to do the fullscreening |
| 2022-08-15 14:30:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we could force the window fullscreen but there's no guarantee the app would follow suit |
| 2022-08-15 14:30:32 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | how does other wms handle this? |
| 2022-08-15 14:30:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | unless you mean switching temporarily to Full layout, in which case look at https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-ToggleLayouts.html |
| 2022-08-15 14:31:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | which is not quite the same thing as EWMH fullscreen |
| 2022-08-15 14:35:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | there are differences between this and ewmh fullscreen. if you press F11 in a browser ewmh fullscreen is used, and since the browser is initiating the fullscreen it can do things like hide the titlebar and address bar |
| 2022-08-15 14:44:36 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | <geekosaur> "unless you mean switching..." <- I mean overlapping all windows |
| 2022-08-15 14:46:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | then you want the Full layout and you want to look at the module I indicated |
| 2022-08-15 14:46:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | just don't expect it to behave like pressing F11 |
| 2022-08-15 15:17:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | zim0369[m]1, didn''t you ask for that code block to do what it currently does? |
| 2022-08-15 15:17:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (which I'm not even sure of, I don't recall shiftRL any more) |
| 2022-08-15 15:20:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | [ ((0,k),windows $ W.greedyView i) | (i,k) <- zip myWorkspaces [xK_a .. xK_i] ] |
| 2022-08-15 15:35:49 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | <geekosaur> "zim0369, didn''t you ask for..." <- Umm.. Yea.. But |
| 2022-08-15 15:36:09 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | > <@zim0369:matrix.org> I want to edit this submap to do:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/2bace14c1ec57dc7e02d4eda667bba701645…) |
| 2022-08-15 15:36:11 +0200 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’ |
| 2022-08-15 15:36:32 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | Alok: I think XMonad.Layout.MultiToggle is what you're looking for. Here's the relevant part of my config: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/unSQP0XI |
| 2022-08-15 15:36:52 +0200 | <geekosaur> | MultiToggle is the same as Toggle but harder to use because it supports multiple toggles |
| 2022-08-15 15:37:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I pointed to single-toggle, which is simpler |
| 2022-08-15 15:37:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | zim0369[m]1, so I gave you a replacement list comprehension that does what you want |
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| 2022-08-15 16:25:50 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | is it correct? |
| 2022-08-15 16:27:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | presuming you also have the layout part to receive the message, yes |
| 2022-08-15 16:28:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | myLayout = toggleLayout Full $ (rest of your layout here) |
| 2022-08-15 16:28:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | or however you have your layouts set up |
| 2022-08-15 16:34:13 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | <geekosaur> "myLayout = toggleLayout Full..." <- what is `toggleLayout Full`? |
| 2022-08-15 16:34:27 +0200 | Alok[m] | uploaded an image: (77KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HsxrbLEXMLcGaQVhQqVWcegK/image.png > |
| 2022-08-15 16:34:29 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | I have it like this |
| 2022-08-15 16:34:48 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | <geekosaur> "presuming you also have the..." <- ummm no probably |
| 2022-08-15 16:36:40 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | Sorry I'll have to get back to my desktop first |
| 2022-08-15 16:38:32 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | But `toggleLayout Full` is the part you need for the message to work |
| 2022-08-15 16:43:54 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | <geekosaur[m]> "But `toggleLayout Full` is the..." <- I can't find what `toggleLayout` is |
| 2022-08-15 16:44:14 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | I have imported that package though |
| 2022-08-15 16:44:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | did you read the page I sent? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-ToggleLayouts.html |
| 2022-08-15 16:44:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it shows how to use it |
| 2022-08-15 16:44:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | simply importing a package in Haskell only makes names available for use, it doesn't actually do anything |
| 2022-08-15 16:46:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | `myLayout = smartBorders $ toggleLayout Full $ tiled ||| Mirror tiled ||| Full` |
| 2022-08-15 16:46:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (leave the following `where` clause as is) |
| 2022-08-15 16:49:47 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | geekosaur: there's no variable `toggleLayout` |
| 2022-08-15 16:49:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you might at some point learn how to use a pastebin, it's hard to copy from an image 🙂 |
| 2022-08-15 16:49:59 +0200 | Alok[m] | uploaded an image: (12KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/mhxCMfNLTPSInwYMDzIOGJgn/image.png > |
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| 2022-08-15 16:50:13 +0200 | justache | (~justache@user/justache) |
| 2022-08-15 16:50:21 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sorry, it's `toggleLayouts` |
| 2022-08-15 16:50:31 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | geekosaur: oh ok sorry |
| 2022-08-15 16:50:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | exampple from the webpage |
| 2022-08-15 16:50:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | myLayout = toggleLayouts Full (Tall 1 (3/100) (1/2)) ||| etc.. |
| 2022-08-15 16:50:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | main = xmonad def { layoutHook = myLayout } |
| 2022-08-15 16:51:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | because it could be more than one conceivably |
| 2022-08-15 16:51:13 +0200 | <geekosaur> | using ||| to separate them just as with the main layout |
| 2022-08-15 16:51:23 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | yes, I did exactly the same |
| 2022-08-15 16:51:41 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | Should I send full config? |
| 2022-08-15 16:54:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and error message if any, yes |
| 2022-08-15 16:54:30 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | ok it changes layout, but nothing happens to the windows lol |
| 2022-08-15 16:55:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | how do you know it changed layout if nothing happens to the windows? |
| 2022-08-15 16:55:20 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | I am expecting the current window to go full screen |
| 2022-08-15 16:55:37 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | I'm not sure if I am doing the right thing |
| 2022-08-15 16:55:37 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | with bar hidden and no space on edges |
| 2022-08-15 16:56:10 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | * full screen, when theres a single window |
| 2022-08-15 16:56:59 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | * full screen, when there's only one window. If multiple windows, it works almost fine, by making the focused window fullscreen but doesn't overlap the bar) |
| 2022-08-15 16:57:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, you need to add something for the bar to toggle off because that's separate |
| 2022-08-15 16:57:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | where is `avoidStruts` in your config? |
| 2022-08-15 16:58:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I suspect you have `layout = avoidStruts myLayout` somewhere? |
| 2022-08-15 17:01:04 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | there's no avoidStruts |
| 2022-08-15 17:01:36 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | https://batbin.me/unthorny |
| 2022-08-15 17:02:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | huh. I wonder how the bar is visible at all, then. must be on top instead of below |
| 2022-08-15 17:03:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (which means it's overlapping windows instead of displaying below/above them) |
| 2022-08-15 17:03:44 +0200 | <geekosaur> | do you have an xmobar config? |
| 2022-08-15 17:04:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | `myLayout = smartBorders $ toggleLayouts Full $ avoidStruts $ tiled ||| Mirror tiled ||| Full` |
| 2022-08-15 17:04:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and make sure xmobar is set with `lowerOnStart = True` |
| 2022-08-15 17:05:19 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | geekosaur: it was on top, I changed it to below lol. I was following official xmonad tutorial |
| 2022-08-15 17:05:30 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | geekosaur: Ye, lemme send |
| 2022-08-15 17:05:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | not lower as in bottom of the screen, lower as in "below all other windows" |
| 2022-08-15 17:06:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | instead of overlapping them because it's over them |
| 2022-08-15 17:06:56 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | https://batbin.me/overurbanization |
| 2022-08-15 17:07:09 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | geekosaur: oh no |
| 2022-08-15 17:07:43 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | sometimes it is above them sometimes below, idk how but yeah I've noticed that too |
| 2022-08-15 17:12:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | right, without the `lowerOnStart` it'll be wherever it was relative to other windows when it launched, so it'll float around. `avoidStruts` and `lowerOnStart` should make it behave |
| 2022-08-15 17:13:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and the modified `myLayout` aith `avoidStruts` should stop it from overlapping when `Full` is toggled on, once `lowerOnStart` is set |
| 2022-08-15 17:17:06 +0200 | <Alok[m]> | how to fix ;( |
| 2022-08-15 17:17:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | ? |
| 2022-08-15 17:17:44 +0200 | <geekosaur> | didn't I just tell you? |
| 2022-08-15 17:19:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | first, edit your xmobar config and add `, lowerOnStart = True` to it, just after the first line |
| 2022-08-15 17:19:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | second, change your xmonad config the way I said earlier |
| 2022-08-15 17:19:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | [15 15:04:38] <geekosaur> `myLayout = smartBorders $ toggleLayouts Full $ avoidStruts $ tiled ||| Mirror tiled ||| Full` |
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| 2022-08-15 20:32:05 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | <geekosaur> "[ ((0,k),windows $ W.greedyView..." <- not exactly what I'm trying to do |
| 2022-08-15 20:33:23 +0200 | zim0369[m]1 | sent a hs code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/3cc62d6066da8a53f6df89ac9ed1ef4db7d9… |
| 2022-08-15 20:33:50 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | but I prolly would have to do something like a nested submap |
| 2022-08-15 20:34:57 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | No, that would replace the existing one since they both bind the same keys |
| 2022-08-15 20:35:27 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | But I guess I don't understand how you're expecting to have both |
| 2022-08-15 20:36:02 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | no I want the last one to be under a "m" submap instead of using shift |
| 2022-08-15 20:36:40 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | `M-o m a` to move a window to workspace 1 and take focus to workspace 1 |
| 2022-08-15 20:36:40 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | while `M-o a` to just take focus to workspace 1 |
| 2022-08-15 20:36:59 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | Then yes, you need another submap |
| 2022-08-15 20:39:40 +0200 | zim0369[m]1 | sent a hs code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/4f1cbbacaabbbc547ad568d5df28052553ba… |
| 2022-08-15 20:42:16 +0200 | <geekosaur> | no, that's not quite right. the list comprehension produces a complete list, you need to append to it with ++, not just add an item with a comma |
| 2022-08-15 20:42:17 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | or maybe this?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/1ba9aa96cd556474deb78c535aea92f40c4c…) |
| 2022-08-15 20:44:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/h12iePrn |
| 2022-08-15 20:45:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (I haven't syntax checked that but I think everything matches up) |
| 2022-08-15 20:47:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | a comma inside a list comprehension introduces a filter condition, not a new list item |
| 2022-08-15 20:52:02 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | geekosaur: I couldn't quite understand this |
| 2022-08-15 20:52:04 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | but your implementation works flawlessly |
| 2022-08-15 20:52:21 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | I'm rather convinced with the use of `++` and why it didn't come to my mind |
| 2022-08-15 21:04:49 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | but doesn't work |
| 2022-08-15 21:04:50 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | I'm trying to combine this with the previous implementation:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/6ecf610b50f32bbe88849a6b05a602a7c8fe…) |
| 2022-08-15 21:05:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think you need to pastebin your whole xmonad.hs, or at least the whole keybindings part |
| 2022-08-15 21:07:51 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-15 21:08:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | tbh I tried checking it locally and had an unmatched brace somewhere, but I had to make several edits because my workspace list is named differently and I don't have shiftRL |
| 2022-08-15 21:09:55 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.156.66) |
| 2022-08-15 21:10:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | missed a line when testing in ghci, maybe it's okay as is |
| 2022-08-15 21:11:30 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/b5iF3uJf |
| 2022-08-15 21:14:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | not sure that would work as written, since additionalKeysP doesn't control the submap you manually created |
| 2022-08-15 21:15:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/egfv9ETB |
| 2022-08-15 21:16:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you would have to have additionalKeysP create the submaps for you, by defining the keys as e.g. "M-o a" |
| 2022-08-15 21:18:43 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | oh just had to add it inside the submap list |
| 2022-08-15 21:18:47 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | nice |
| 2022-08-15 21:18:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | right |
| 2022-08-15 21:19:15 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | sometimes I feel like I get the smartest ideas about/for tiling wms |
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| 2022-08-15 21:19:33 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | sorry to butt in, i have this xmobar config. but no matter what i do to it, it doesn't seem to change, the status bar just always looks the same. tried rebooting, building, recompiling xmonad. not sure what to do. this is my current file: |
| 2022-08-15 21:20:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | not sure I can help much since I don't really do xmobar. I think Solid has some clue about this but don't know if he's about |
| 2022-08-15 21:22:32 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | any chance you wanna show what your status bar looks like? iirc you said you built it just using xmonad? |
| 2022-08-15 21:22:40 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | isaacthekind[m]: why don't u put your xmobar config in .xmobarrc instead? |
| 2022-08-15 21:22:41 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | and yeah hopefully solid shows up, i'm stuck |
| 2022-08-15 21:22:54 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | zim0369[m]1: vastly prefer working with haskell |
| 2022-08-15 21:23:15 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | oh |
| 2022-08-15 21:23:43 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | then I can't help with this way of configuring things. I've configured xmobar a lot before with the traditional way. |
| 2022-08-15 21:24:30 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | that's ok, i am patient, i'll work on xmonad for now |
| 2022-08-15 21:25:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | my status bar isn't xmobar |
| 2022-08-15 21:25:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's mate-panel, using xmonad-log-applet via dbus |
| 2022-08-15 21:28:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I did find Solid's own xmobar config, dunno how much that might help you: https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/blob/master/xmobar/.config/xmobarrc/src/xmobarrc.hs |
| 2022-08-15 21:32:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you probably want to install it under a name different from "xmobar" so you don't run the standard one with its defaults instead |
| 2022-08-15 21:32:31 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | could you clarify that last bit |
| 2022-08-15 21:33:03 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | the file is somewhat helpful, but it's not the haskell syntax part that's weird. it's that i think i'm not calling it properly elsewhere and it's defaulting to whatever the base config is. |
| 2022-08-15 21:33:16 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | that's at least what it looks like, without knowing what's happening under the hood |
| 2022-08-15 21:33:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | right, so when yiou build the xmobar config, are you building it separately like Solid is or are you passing your .hs as a parameter? |
| 2022-08-15 21:35:02 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | no, i'm doing the first, i didn't realize the second was possible |
| 2022-08-15 21:35:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so what is the name of the result? |
| 2022-08-15 21:35:56 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'm really confused with that kinda stuff. like i don't really understand any of the compilation things, i just know how to write the actual haskell code and run it in a cmd line. |
| 2022-08-15 21:36:02 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | like what is the "result" |
| 2022-08-15 21:36:27 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i can show my basic structure here if that helps. |
| 2022-08-15 21:36:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | when you compile a config like this (or an xmonad.hs) it produces an executable |
| 2022-08-15 21:36:54 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | oh |
| 2022-08-15 21:36:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/blob/master/xmobar/.config/xmobarrc/xmobarrc.cabal <-- Solid calls his "xmobar" and then uses hiw $PATH to make sure the correct "xmobar" is run |
| 2022-08-15 21:37:01 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | like the executable name specified in the cabal |
| 2022-08-15 21:37:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *his |
| 2022-08-15 21:37:38 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | mine is "xmobad" |
| 2022-08-15 21:37:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | ok, so that shouldn't collide |
| 2022-08-15 21:38:12 +0200 | isaacthekind[m] | uploaded an image: (123KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LJkqjFyWFUrlzpTVIzAGJpNX/image.png > |
| 2022-08-15 21:38:14 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | this is my dir structure |
| 2022-08-15 21:38:20 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | then this is how i call it in xmonad.hs |
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| 2022-08-15 21:38:41 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | code is a bit cluttered atm |
| 2022-08-15 21:39:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | directory structure doesn't really matter here, the questions are (a) is it actually getting rebuilt? (b) where is the executable getting put? |
| 2022-08-15 21:40:27 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah i'm not sure how to approach those questions |
| 2022-08-15 21:40:39 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | aside from just spending a bunch of time learning cabal (which i do intend to do at some point) |
| 2022-08-15 21:44:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | when you make changes to your xmobar.hs, do you do anything else afterward? |
| 2022-08-15 21:45:33 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | not consistently, cause i can't figure out what works. i've tried building after, installing, updating, recompiling and restarting xmonad |
| 2022-08-15 21:45:38 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | none of those seemed to do it |
| 2022-08-15 21:45:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "cabal install" in the same directory as your xmobar.hs |
| 2022-08-15 21:46:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (no package name) |
| 2022-08-15 21:48:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | after that, presuming you're using `withEasySB`, you press `mod-q` to restart xmonad and xmobar/xmobad |
| 2022-08-15 21:52:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm, XMonadLog. so you're doing it the old way with a pipe? then `mod-q` should work. but if you're using `withEasySB` you probably aren't using a pipe to communicate with xmobad and things won't work well |
| 2022-08-15 21:53:51 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hmm |
| 2022-08-15 21:53:54 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | no effect |
| 2022-08-15 21:54:18 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | idx about pipe, i haven't been able to play with it at all yet cause i can't get it to respond to config changes |
| 2022-08-15 21:54:32 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | s/idx/idk/ |
| 2022-08-15 22:04:54 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | also one separate q wrt xmonad. i notice i have a case where i can use ++ or ^++^, i've never seen the latter before, and i can't find any docs on it. could someone explain what that is |
| 2022-08-15 22:07:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I have no idea, it's not a standard operator or one we define? |
| 2022-08-15 22:08:17 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | https://github.com/altercation/dotfiles-tilingwm/blob/master/.xmonad/xmonad.hs |
| 2022-08-15 22:08:26 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | check line 1204 |
| 2022-08-15 22:08:37 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | he uses a bunch of them around there |
| 2022-08-15 22:13:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-NamedActions.html#v:-94… |
| 2022-08-15 22:13:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it apparently combines named keymaps |
| 2022-08-15 22:13:40 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ohh i see |
| 2022-08-15 22:13:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (the `Submap "name here" (` things) |
| 2022-08-15 22:14:27 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i bet the list it's producing is actually not of the right type when i use the normal concat |
| 2022-08-15 22:14:28 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | thank you for finding that |
| 2022-08-15 22:14:55 +0200 | Forkk_ | (~forkk@li926-228.members.linode.com) (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) |
| 2022-08-15 22:15:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's a wrapped list that has to be combined specially, I think |
| 2022-08-15 22:18:05 +0200 | Forkk | (~forkk@li926-228.members.linode.com) |
| 2022-08-15 22:20:50 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok noted |
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| 2022-08-15 23:08:28 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | Solid: if you're around later today to answer a q or two about using a haskell xmobar config, that would be killer. |
