| 2022-08-10 00:00:53 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hmmm ok. well i guess i'm just looking for how to get from the state i have right now (partial lsp support) to full lsp support. |
| 2022-08-10 00:00:57 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/tree/skkukuk is my setup but it has some things you won't care about in it (like compton.conf) |
| 2022-08-10 00:01:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | basically you choose one of those build scripts, put it in the same directory as your `xmonad.hs`, name it `build`, and `chmod +x build` |
| 2022-08-10 00:01:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | then xmonad will use it |
| 2022-08-10 00:02:44 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you will want to use `cabal init` or `stack init` as appropriate (and, for cabal, edit the resulting file so it's not using the whole src/app thing cabal likes to suggest) |
| 2022-08-10 00:03:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | see the example in my setup. (you can remove the dbus and utf8-string dependencies, they're specific to my local setup) |
| 2022-08-10 00:06:11 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok so i get the idea of adding it making executable then it'll be used |
| 2022-08-10 00:06:49 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i am gonna rebuild what i had before (basically xmonad running fine, but not full lsp) then do that and see if it resolves the lsp issue. |
| 2022-08-10 00:07:13 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'm not sure what you mean with cabal init there, is the idea that i have to do some kind of update after adding the build script |
| 2022-08-10 00:07:31 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | (thanks for this help btw) |
| 2022-08-10 00:07:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | right. this should not change the xmonad side of things beyond slightly slower rebuilds because it has to go via cabal instead of directly, but the cabal information will allow lsp to find everything it wants |
| 2022-08-10 00:08:46 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok nice, yeah that's best case, i'm hoping i just put this on top of what i had before and it magically works. |
| 2022-08-10 00:08:49 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ill report back |
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| 2022-08-10 09:01:06 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok so i rebuilt the whole system to clear any potential junk. i have xmonad up and running, i can see changes i make to the config taking effect, so all looks good. i've now added the build-with-cabal.sh file to ~/.xmonad, but the lsp stuff still isn't fully functional (i get snippets and formatting, but still as you can see by the red crosses, some packages not being found): |
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| 2022-08-10 09:03:20 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | maybe i didn't quite understand the instructions, but if someone could clarify where to go from here that would be great |
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| 2022-08-10 09:10:41 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-10 09:12:02 +0200 | <Lears> | LSP (apparently) expects a (cabal) package, so you have to turn your config into one. The build script is just a way to make xmonad accept that change. |
| 2022-08-10 09:12:39 +0200 | <Lears> | It's a consequence of the solution, not the solution itself. |
| 2022-08-10 09:15:33 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-10 09:16:00 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hmmm ok. thanks. i'm still not exactly clear on how to proceed from here though, bit of a noob. could you clarify how to do that next step? |
| 2022-08-10 09:16:48 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
| 2022-08-10 09:16:55 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) |
| 2022-08-10 09:19:01 +0200 | <Solid> | you need a cabal file; something that looks a little bit like https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/blob/master/xmonad/.config/xmonad/xmonadrc.cabal |
| 2022-08-10 09:21:49 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ohhh ok i see there is also a cabal in what geekosaur sent, i'll try adding this and restarting |
| 2022-08-10 09:22:00 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | thank you |
| 2022-08-10 09:27:02 +0200 | totte | (~totte@h-82-196-112-155.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2022-08-10 09:28:22 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'm not sure what happened but that seems to have totally broken it lol |
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| 2022-08-10 09:28:31 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | now the lsp doesn't seem to work at all |
| 2022-08-10 09:28:55 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | and even when i remove the script and cabal an reboot the lsp stays fully broken |
| 2022-08-10 09:29:29 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | what i did was place the cabal file in ~/.xmonad |
| 2022-08-10 09:31:39 +0200 | aliosablack | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc15:5e00:d0f9:9fe4:8717:f94d) |
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| 2022-08-10 09:39:17 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | not sure if this is helpful, but when i added the cabal file and the lsp fully broke, the output of `:LspInfo` became: |
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| 2022-08-10 09:40:04 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | before that it was successfully attaching haskell lsp, but just not finding everything |
| 2022-08-10 09:45:17 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | I've not used LSPs on nvim, but have you checked `:h nvim-lsp-installer-quickstart`? |
| 2022-08-10 09:47:56 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2022-08-10 09:51:40 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah it just tells you to call the setup function, which i do in my lsp setup. if i open an elm file, or bash or smth it'll give automatically load up the relevant lsp stuff. |
| 2022-08-10 09:51:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | note that if you're using my cabal file, you need to remove the dbus and utf8-string dependencies. don't forget to also remove the comma at the end of line 23 |
| 2022-08-10 09:52:23 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok i'll try that one. |
| 2022-08-10 09:52:53 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | to be clear, geekosaur. all i'm aiming for here is add your cabal and your script to ~/.xmonad, then restart xmonad? |
| 2022-08-10 09:53:13 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-08-10 09:53:24 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | thx |
| 2022-08-10 09:53:24 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | (add making the appropriate edits to the cabal, as you said) |
| 2022-08-10 09:53:25 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok |
| 2022-08-10 09:53:46 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | s/add/and/ |
| 2022-08-10 09:53:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I don't know if hls has cache information that may need to be removed |
| 2022-08-10 09:54:05 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | if you tell me where to look i can poke around |
| 2022-08-10 09:54:10 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | that seems highly likely |
| 2022-08-10 09:54:28 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i tried getting rid of dist-newstyle and letting it regen but that didn't fix it |
| 2022-08-10 09:54:48 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i assume some weird thing maybe got cached if i remove changes, reboot, and it's stays broke. |
| 2022-08-10 09:55:44 +0200 | <geekosaur> | doesn't look like it does |
| 2022-08-10 09:56:34 +0200 | <geekosaur> | oh, sorry. ~/.cache/ghcide is the cache directory (ghcide is the old name for lsp) |
| 2022-08-10 09:58:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | gah, it's 0400, I need to be asleep 😞 |
| 2022-08-10 09:59:01 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok yeah i added both files, removed the last 2 lines and the command, still getting same error |
| 2022-08-10 09:59:15 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i can clear that dir tho |
| 2022-08-10 10:01:39 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | also cleared ghcide, still same error, i have no clue how this got busted so badly. literally was working fine except lsp wasn't finding some things, now lsp is fully broken, and all i did was add those 2 files to /.xmonad. i could try reinstalling arch and strating over maybe, idk i'm pretty far over my head trying to fix this lsp thing. |
| 2022-08-10 10:01:58 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | and yes it is late, thanks very much for the help tho |
| 2022-08-10 10:02:06 +0200 | <Solid> | what's the error message that lsp gives you? |
| 2022-08-10 10:02:19 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | now it's this |
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| 2022-08-10 10:02:35 +0200 | <Solid> | I mean HLS itself, not neovim |
| 2022-08-10 10:02:35 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | but i could get it back to this by re-installing arch i'm sure: |
| 2022-08-10 10:02:56 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'm not sure how i would see something like that |
| 2022-08-10 10:03:21 +0200 | <Solid> | easiest way would probably be to just run `haskell-language-server-wrapper` in the project directory |
| 2022-08-10 10:04:04 +0200 | isaacthekind[m] | uploaded an image: (55KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/sVhKVvSwOjUDjPEknNPfgDqV/image.png > |
| 2022-08-10 10:04:09 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | it's complaining about the hie |
| 2022-08-10 10:04:23 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i will add, i have tried the basic stuff here |
| 2022-08-10 10:04:26 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | like implicit-hie |
| 2022-08-10 10:04:54 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | (not on this install, but on a previous install where i got this error complaining about the hie.yaml) |
| 2022-08-10 10:04:59 +0200 | <Solid> | don't worry about having an hie.yaml; HLS is normally smart enough to figure this out by itself |
| 2022-08-10 10:05:17 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hm ok |
| 2022-08-10 10:05:18 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-08-10 10:06:30 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | What's xmonad-bse? Does that package exist? (Maybe meant to be xmonad, base?) |
| 2022-08-10 10:06:40 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | that came from geekosaur |
| 2022-08-10 10:06:47 +0200 | <Solid> | seems like cabal can't even build the project |
| 2022-08-10 10:06:50 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | oh wait one sec i may have misspoke |
| 2022-08-10 10:07:27 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah i have no clue why it would not build |
| 2022-08-10 10:07:34 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | incase you missed the earlier stuff.. |
| 2022-08-10 10:07:49 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | this was the initial state i had it in |
| 2022-08-10 10:08:03 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | after a fresh arch install and just putting the basic xmonad stuff on there |
| 2022-08-10 10:08:05 +0200 | isaacthekind[m] | uploaded an image: (103KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/GJAwqjTwWSLSKgLuyiroNdxx/image.png > |
| 2022-08-10 10:08:24 +0200 | <Solid> | It's really hard to debug things from pictures; do you have a repo somewhere or something? |
| 2022-08-10 10:08:24 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | you can see the lsp is connecting fine, it's just not finding some of the packages, |
| 2022-08-10 10:09:12 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i could easiely build one, or i could hop on screenshare (if matrix has that?) |
| 2022-08-10 10:09:28 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | What's the terminal output when you build it? |
| 2022-08-10 10:09:51 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | is that just cabal build in the relevant dir |
| 2022-08-10 10:09:58 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | Yes |
| 2022-08-10 10:10:28 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | complained about update |
| 2022-08-10 10:10:31 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | running cabal update.. |
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| 2022-08-10 10:13:01 +0200 | <Solid> | oh, you're trying to build git |
| 2022-08-10 10:13:49 +0200 | <Solid> | that's not on hackage yet, so cabal naturally can't build it and fails; you're probably going to have to point it to the git repo or a local directory somehow (I don't use cabal without stack, so I don't know how to do this) |
| 2022-08-10 10:15:23 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | so i have tried this way also |
| 2022-08-10 10:15:24 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | https://xmonad.org/INSTALL.html#build-using-cabal-install |
| 2022-08-10 10:15:47 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | For now you could try replacing the version dependencies to allow whatever is the most recent version in hackage |
| 2022-08-10 10:16:03 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | in the cabal file? |
| 2022-08-10 10:16:30 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | Yes. Something like xmonad ^>= 0.17 && < 0.18, and the same for xmonad-contrib |
| 2022-08-10 10:16:34 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | But I'm not familiar with cabal either |
| 2022-08-10 10:17:07 +0200 | <Lears> | ^>= 0.17 should work; the rest is redundant. |
| 2022-08-10 10:17:10 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | looks as though that's how it's set up |
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| 2022-08-10 10:17:29 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | oh ok, sry sent that before lears' message came through |
| 2022-08-10 10:17:46 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | oh but if it's redundant then i guess that makes no diff |
| 2022-08-10 10:17:53 +0200 | <Lears> | No, the issue is the 0.9 |
| 2022-08-10 10:18:02 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | oh ok |
| 2022-08-10 10:18:04 +0200 | <Lears> | That's not on hackage yet, so cabal doesn't find it. |
| 2022-08-10 10:18:33 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | sry when you said redundant i thought you meant it like |
| 2022-08-10 10:18:39 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | extra info that makes no diff |
| 2022-08-10 10:18:45 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | changing it |
| 2022-08-10 10:19:18 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hey it's doing something, this is great! :p |
| 2022-08-10 10:19:19 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | It's the && < 0.18 that's redundant, because 0.18 doesn't exist yet. |
| 2022-08-10 10:19:26 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | OH |
| 2022-08-10 10:19:29 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok i see |
| 2022-08-10 10:19:59 +0200 | <Lears> | Rather, it's implied by ^. |
| 2022-08-10 10:20:28 +0200 | <Lears> | If I'm not mistaken. |
| 2022-08-10 10:20:53 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | idk |
| 2022-08-10 10:20:54 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i don't know the whole versioning syntax, i guess it will be implied by ^ until the current verison is higher than .18? |
| 2022-08-10 10:21:17 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | haskell's version stuff has always been kinda arcane to me, it's one of those thing i need to like sit down and properly learn at some point |
| 2022-08-10 10:22:34 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok... |
| 2022-08-10 10:22:40 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | so it got through almost the whole build |
| 2022-08-10 10:22:41 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | till this |
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| 2022-08-10 10:23:10 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | gonna add the dep |
| 2022-08-10 10:23:14 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | try again |
| 2022-08-10 10:23:45 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | I find there's sometimes a bit of trail and error with dependencies |
| 2022-08-10 10:23:50 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | *trial |
| 2022-08-10 10:24:02 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | But the error messages don't tend to be too bad |
| 2022-08-10 10:24:05 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah i think this is just cause i'm using the darcs templaite |
| 2022-08-10 10:24:14 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah this is what i'm used to seeing |
| 2022-08-10 10:24:33 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i think i just pulled a template that calls things that geekosaur didn't need in his cabal |
| 2022-08-10 10:25:00 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | HLS should also be able to tell you when you need to add / remove dependencies, once you have it working. |
| 2022-08-10 10:25:16 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | really? |
| 2022-08-10 10:25:24 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ohh you mean like in file |
| 2022-08-10 10:26:19 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | I get it inline next to module imports, but I use emacs so nvim may be different. |
| 2022-08-10 10:27:17 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah i started wanted nvim for like use in servers (super easy to pull down a config, and terminal based works everywhere), speed (faster than vsc) and mostly config via lua (not as good as config via haskell, but still way more flexible than what i had before with vsc) |
| 2022-08-10 10:27:51 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | you can get that stuff in nvim, i think it looks a bit better in vsc, but maybe there are ways to get it nicer in nvim if you know your way around |
| 2022-08-10 10:28:07 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | right now i just get indicators and i press gl to reveal more |
| 2022-08-10 10:29:41 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | WOW ok... |
| 2022-08-10 10:29:46 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i don't wanna speak too soon, but i am pretty sure you all got it working |
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| 2022-08-10 10:30:16 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | the feedback isn't errors bout finding stuff anymore, just seems like normal lsp feedback |
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| 2022-08-10 10:30:29 +0200 | <isaacthekind[m]> | thank you, this has been owning me for like 3 days |
| 2022-08-10 10:31:01 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | Yay! |
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| 2022-08-10 17:26:41 +0200 | logzet | (~quassel@2001:9e8:e53a:7700:dabb:c1ff:fed3:a1b9) |
| 2022-08-10 17:58:25 +0200 | Quelklef | (~Quelklef@2600:100d:bf06:1800:52cc:d4b5:1694:d7f7) |
| 2022-08-10 17:58:41 +0200 | <Quelklef> | hello! |
| 2022-08-10 18:01:14 +0200 | <Quelklef> | I've written some code for myself that I think would be a good addition to xmonad-contrib |
| 2022-08-10 18:01:21 +0200 | <Quelklef> | CONTRIBUTING.md says to ask about it here first |
| 2022-08-10 18:02:08 +0200 | <Quelklef> | basically it's "two-dimensional workspaces, plus you can have workspaces share windows" |
| 2022-08-10 18:03:26 +0200 | <Quelklef> | it's implemented as a mostly plug-and-play extension using ExtensibleConfig and ExtensibleState |
| 2022-08-10 18:03:33 +0200 | <Quelklef> | is this something that sounds like it would be good in xmonad-contrib? |
| 2022-08-10 18:04:17 +0200 | <Quelklef> | an XMonad.Hooks.WorkspacesIn2D module or something |
| 2022-08-10 18:09:06 +0200 | Quelklef | (~Quelklef@2600:100d:bf06:1800:52cc:d4b5:1694:d7f7) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-10 18:14:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | what is the difference from XMonad.Actions.Plane? |
| 2022-08-10 18:33:41 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 2022-08-10 18:44:49 +0200 | EnlightenedUser | (~Enlighten@ip5f5af2d7.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 2022-08-10 18:46:05 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) |
| 2022-08-10 18:48:04 +0200 | sogens2 | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-10 18:50:32 +0200 | <EnlightenedUser> | Howdy friends, my xmonad.hs seems to be the issue that my enlightenment applications are completely transparent being rendered without content ( i am on a fresh fedora install and just installed terminology ) on a different wm on the same machine terminology runs fine - https://hastebin.com/halatetopu.lua |
| 2022-08-10 18:50:33 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2022-08-10 18:58:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you're not using XMonad.Hooks.Fade{Inactive,Windows} then xmonad knows exactly nothing about transparency. transparency is normally up to the window itself, since the window manager can't know what opacity the application rendering the window wants |
| 2022-08-10 19:00:51 +0200 | sogens2 | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-10 19:18:19 +0200 | Jade1 | (~Jade1@ip-178-201-128-039.um46.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 2022-08-10 19:21:59 +0200 | <Jade1> | Is it normal that when switching workspaces my background flashes for a split second? |
| 2022-08-10 19:21:59 +0200 | <Jade1> | In my compositor I have fading disabled but when quickly switching workspaces I can see my background for short times |
| 2022-08-10 19:22:17 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-10 19:23:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, it's entirely possible you can spot the background between when the old workspace's windows are unmapped and the new one's are mapped |
| 2022-08-10 19:23:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | compositing actually helps to minimize this |
| 2022-08-10 19:24:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | @ask Quelklef What's the difference between your WorkspacesIn2D and XMonad.Actions.Plane? |
| 2022-08-10 19:24:51 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
| 2022-08-10 19:26:12 +0200 | <Jade1> | geekosaur, so there's no way to make it "cover" it up in order to be 100% covered when just switching workspaces? |
| 2022-08-10 19:26:21 +0200 | <geekosaur> | there is not |
| 2022-08-10 19:26:27 +0200 | <Jade1> | because the flash is really annoying |
| 2022-08-10 19:26:30 +0200 | <Jade1> | ah ok thank you |
| 2022-08-10 19:26:37 +0200 | <Jade1> | I might go back to fading then |
| 2022-08-10 19:26:41 +0200 | <Jade1> | it covers it up well |
| 2022-08-10 19:26:44 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hypothetically we could map the new windows before unmapping the old but that's not what X.O.windows currently does |
| 2022-08-10 19:27:20 +0200 | <Jade1> | ok thanks! |
| 2022-08-10 19:28:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (and doing so might alter the stacking order and cause other obscure issues) |
| 2022-08-10 19:28:53 +0200 | <Jade1> | alright |
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| 2022-08-10 19:44:23 +0200 | ml| | (~ml|@user/ml/x-5298235) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
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| 2022-08-10 19:57:26 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-10 19:58:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | @tell EnlightenedUser for what it's worth I can duplicate it with terminology on my system. I presume that means it's looking for something that it doesn't autostart, that is presumably part of the enlightenment desktop |
| 2022-08-10 19:58:33 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
| 2022-08-10 20:01:53 +0200 | ml| | (~ml|@user/ml/x-5298235) |
| 2022-08-10 20:06:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | @tell EnlightenedUser it turns out that it's not using an opacity of 0; it's hanging before it can render anything, which also means the window can't be selected or etc. in particular I saw no shell associated with the window here |
| 2022-08-10 20:06:46 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
| 2022-08-10 20:10:18 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) (Quit: WeeChat 3.6) |
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| 2022-08-10 20:36:07 +0200 | Quelklef | (~Quelklef@64.67.70.25.res-cmts.tvh.ptd.net) |
| 2022-08-10 20:37:25 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-10 20:40:09 +0200 | <Quelklef> | geekosaur, good question |
| 2022-08-10 20:40:42 +0200 | <Quelklef> | I've never used XMonad.Actions.Plane before |
| 2022-08-10 20:40:53 +0200 | <Quelklef> | I'll try it out |
| 2022-08-10 20:41:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | keep in mind that I'm not saying "we already have that"; Plane is a huge ungainly hack that very few people trust |
| 2022-08-10 20:41:03 +0200 | <Quelklef> | off the bat, it looks similar except that it doesn't have this workspace-combining feature mine does |
| 2022-08-10 20:41:09 +0200 | <Quelklef> | oh, is it? |
| 2022-08-10 20:43:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | well, I think the code is small, the *hack* is big 🙂 |
| 2022-08-10 20:43:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it abuses the StackSet something fierce |
| 2022-08-10 20:43:28 +0200 | <Quelklef> | what's hacky about it? :O |
| 2022-08-10 20:43:30 +0200 | <Quelklef> | ahh |
| 2022-08-10 20:43:49 +0200 | <Quelklef> | well, I don't touch StackSet directly |
| 2022-08-10 20:43:58 +0200 | <Quelklef> | my implementation is on top of Workspaces |
| 2022-08-10 20:44:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that already makes it sound better |
| 2022-08-10 20:44:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | well, Workspace is part of StackSet |
| 2022-08-10 20:44:19 +0200 | <Quelklef> | it's slightly hacky, but in the "your output will be weird if you miss" a step way, not the "your xmonad will break if you do it wrong" way |
| 2022-08-10 20:44:31 +0200 | <Quelklef> | "... if you miss a step"* |
| 2022-08-10 20:44:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but forcibly swapping out Stacks is … fragile |
| 2022-08-10 20:45:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (a Workspace being the combination of a Layout and a Maybe Stack) |
| 2022-08-10 20:46:01 +0200 | <Quelklef> | to be clear by "on top of workspaces" i mean on top of workspace IDs |
| 2022-08-10 20:46:44 +0200 | <Quelklef> | I call out to stuff like (windows . greedyView) |
| 2022-08-10 20:48:13 +0200 | <Quelklef> | oh, this is interesting |
| 2022-08-10 20:48:27 +0200 | <Quelklef> | so Planes takes your existing set of workspace IDs and fits it onto a 2d grid |
| 2022-08-10 20:48:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-08-10 20:48:50 +0200 | <Quelklef> | mine requires control of generating the workspace ids |
| 2022-08-10 20:49:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so it's closer to something like IndependentScreens? |
| 2022-08-10 20:49:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | which treats actual workspace tags as <screenid>_<wsid> and gives you wrappers to manipulate each |
| 2022-08-10 20:49:50 +0200 | <Quelklef> | > Utility functions for simulating independent sets of workspaces on each screen (like dwm's workspace model), using internal tags to distinguish workspaces associated with each screen. |
| 2022-08-10 20:49:52 +0200 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:51: error: parse error on input ‘of’ |
| 2022-08-10 20:49:55 +0200 | <Quelklef> | yes, that sounds right |
| 2022-08-10 20:50:12 +0200 | <Quelklef> | I generate workspaces tags with format "y/x:name" |
| 2022-08-10 20:50:34 +0200 | <Quelklef> | and then expose an Endo PP for rendering them correctly |
| 2022-08-10 20:54:07 +0200 | <Quelklef> | although come to think of it I'm not sure that's really necessary |
| 2022-08-10 20:54:34 +0200 | <Quelklef> | it's a nice default implementation, but I think I could relax the API to give users completely control over workspace IDs if they want it |
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| 2022-08-10 22:07:13 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | geekosaur: you've got to help me now |
| 2022-08-10 22:07:23 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | I need to fix this. |
| 2022-08-10 22:07:50 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | I just checked the same config file that day on my other machine running endeavorOS and xmobar was working fine |
| 2022-08-10 22:08:03 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | I replicated the same setup on my main machine |
| 2022-08-10 22:08:23 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | i installed xmonad-git and xmonad-contrib-git from aur and then xmobar from pacman |
| 2022-08-10 22:08:54 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | but it still won't work on my main machine with a brand new installation |
| 2022-08-10 22:10:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I'm not sure how I'm supposed to help you. I can't compare your two installations to see how they differ |
| 2022-08-10 22:17:31 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | geekosaur: there must be something we cud do |
| 2022-08-10 22:17:38 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | can Solid help? |
| 2022-08-10 22:18:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | probably not at this point. if you have all your xmonad and xmobar stuff the same then I'd next start comparing environment variables and such |
| 2022-08-10 22:18:55 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | what should i look for? |
| 2022-08-10 22:20:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | initially I'd just compare shell startup files and such. except I seem to recall you decided to mess with /etc/environment on one system (although if it's the one you reinstalled, that won't matter any more) |
| 2022-08-10 22:21:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | iirc you run fish so you also need to check its special files |
| 2022-08-10 22:21:54 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | ill change to bash and see |
| 2022-08-10 22:23:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (anything in ~/.config/fish, including fish_variables) |
| 2022-08-10 22:25:21 +0200 | <geekosaur> | fwiw I (like a number of other people here, and indeed on github) keep my master set of dotfiles on github and can easily compare them that way |
| 2022-08-10 22:26:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | like, if something behaves differently on two of my systems I can git diff both against my dotfiles repo |
| 2022-08-10 22:26:57 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | https://github.com/zim0369/dots |
| 2022-08-10 22:27:19 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | i changed my shell to bash |
| 2022-08-10 22:27:42 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | i just installed endeavorOS a few hours ago |
| 2022-08-10 22:27:45 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | still no xmobar |
| 2022-08-10 22:28:09 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | wait |
| 2022-08-10 22:28:36 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | there's no xmobarrc but xmobar starts just fine from the terminal |
| 2022-08-10 22:29:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | xmobar has a built in default |
| 2022-08-10 22:30:00 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | i didn't do much after the fresh install |
| 2022-08-10 22:30:18 +0200 | <zim0369[m]1> | installed required packages and started with startx thats all |
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