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| 2022-08-04 08:34:03 +0200 | thyriaen | (~thyriaen@2a02:8109:8340:686c:3cdc:1de0:eddb:5de6) |
| 2022-08-04 08:35:04 +0200 | <thyriaen> | i am configuring the theme of tabs in my config file and reload xmonad afterwards but somehow it does not apply those changes to my current session - restarting the pc will do it though - what am i doing wrong ? |
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| 2022-08-04 08:52:31 +0200 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad Brandon S Allbery KF8NH {Tony Zorman} * v0.17.0-72-g8965e41: attempt to work around the join point bug (#389) (4 weeks ago, 2 files, 12+ 2-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/8965e41d0689 |
| 2022-08-04 08:52:31 +0200 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.0-73-ga13a1dc: Merge pull request #404 from geekosaur/forever-away (4 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/a13a1dcee832 |
| 2022-08-04 09:24:21 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-149-36.toya.net.pl) |
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| 2022-08-04 09:47:40 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | <thyriaen> "i am configuring the theme of..." <- I was trying to get this to work last week. It turns out you need to call 'setLayout layoutHook' |
| 2022-08-04 09:49:06 +0200 | <Solid> | this is bound to M-S-<Space> by default (layouts carry state, which is being transferred over on restarts. This is usually what one wants, except when actively changing bits of that) |
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| 2022-08-04 10:39:58 +0200 | Jade1 | (~Jade1@ip-178-201-128-039.um46.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 2022-08-04 10:41:03 +0200 | <Jade1> | I have some problem with fehbg in xmonad. I have this: |
| 2022-08-04 10:41:03 +0200 | <Jade1> | --- |
| 2022-08-04 10:41:04 +0200 | <Jade1> | myStartupHook = do |
| 2022-08-04 10:41:04 +0200 | <Jade1> | spawnOnce "~/.fehbg" |
| 2022-08-04 10:41:05 +0200 | <Jade1> | spawnOnce "picom --experimental-backends" |
| 2022-08-04 10:41:05 +0200 | <Jade1> | --- |
| 2022-08-04 10:41:06 +0200 | <Jade1> | in my `xmonad.hs` but the background does not load upon starting xmonad. |
| 2022-08-04 10:41:06 +0200 | <Jade1> | If I manually do `.fehbg &` everything works fine |
| 2022-08-04 10:46:06 +0200 | <[Leary]> | I would try the full path; I'm not sure ~ expansion works in spawn. |
| 2022-08-04 10:46:46 +0200 | <Jade1> | Also did not work |
| 2022-08-04 10:48:24 +0200 | <Solid> | ~ expansion should work, I think, but do note that spawnOnce really is about spawning the thing only once and so you will have to pretty much restart X for it to get executed again (simply pressing M-q is not enough) |
| 2022-08-04 10:48:51 +0200 | <Jade1> | I know, I did that |
| 2022-08-04 10:49:14 +0200 | <Jade1> | exited xmonad and manually `startx`'d again |
| 2022-08-04 10:49:23 +0200 | <Solid> | can you find anything in .xsession-errors (or a similar file)? |
| 2022-08-04 10:50:00 +0200 | <Jade1> | no file like that in my home directory |
| 2022-08-04 10:51:35 +0200 | <Solid> | mh, what distro are you on? |
| 2022-08-04 10:52:30 +0200 | <Solid> | try executing something like `startx >& ~/.xsession-errors` instead of only startx |
| 2022-08-04 10:52:39 +0200 | <Solid> | this should redirect errors to that file |
| 2022-08-04 10:57:10 +0200 | benin0 | (~benin@183.82.25.146) |
| 2022-08-04 11:06:35 +0200 | diep | (~diep@2a01:cb11:2d7:4a00:a13f:e40c:c4e8:736c) |
| 2022-08-04 11:06:57 +0200 | <Jade1> | minimal arch install |
| 2022-08-04 11:07:04 +0200 | Jade1 | (~Jade1@ip-178-201-128-039.um46.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2022-08-04 11:07:52 +0200 | Jade1 | (~Jade1@ip-178-201-128-039.um46.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 2022-08-04 11:08:30 +0200 | <Jade1> | ooo |
| 2022-08-04 11:08:46 +0200 | <Jade1> | it seems to not compile at all and fall back to an old version of the binary |
| 2022-08-04 11:09:02 +0200 | <Jade1> | it doesn't find the `XMonad` modules .. |
| 2022-08-04 11:09:15 +0200 | <Jade1> | I think it's due to installing ghcup next to the regular ghc |
| 2022-08-04 11:10:08 +0200 | <diep> | Hi, Im using a namedscratchpad to spawn firefox, as floating, but the firefox spawns no floating, here is the relevent config part https://paste.ofcode.org/yjDZgUpBSDpfCmd86kMuB3 Any idea about what can cause the problem? |
| 2022-08-04 11:14:37 +0200 | <Solid> | diep: matching on titles is very brittle because they can change rather uncontrollably. I don't know exactly what you're spawning, so I have no idea if the title is stable somehow; as a first approximation, however, I think you have to use an em dash (— ) instead of a normal dash (-) after the stuff (at least my firefox uses an em dash in the title) |
| 2022-08-04 11:14:54 +0200 | Guest8343 | (~Guest83@1.39.30.16) |
| 2022-08-04 11:15:17 +0200 | <Guest8343> | I need help with X11 |
| 2022-08-04 11:15:34 +0200 | <Guest8343> | import Graphics.X11.ExtraTypes.XF86 |
| 2022-08-04 11:15:49 +0200 | <Guest8343> | Adding the above line to get function keys working |
| 2022-08-04 11:15:55 +0200 | <Guest8343> | gives me this error |
| 2022-08-04 11:16:56 +0200 | <Jade1> | What DE integrates best with xmonad? |
| 2022-08-04 11:18:25 +0200 | <diep> | Solid: the title match is working I think because the shortcut spawn/hide/show/hide... the window as expected |
| 2022-08-04 11:20:22 +0200 | <diep> | and I give as parameter an URL, and the purpose is to stay on that URL once firefox spawns, but if I switch to another site, yes the match doesn't work anymore |
| 2022-08-04 11:20:38 +0200 | <diep> | but I dont know how to to a better matching |
| 2022-08-04 11:21:24 +0200 | <diep> | because I cant customize the window CLASS for example, or I didnt find how to do it |
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| 2022-08-04 11:28:06 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) |
| 2022-08-04 11:28:56 +0200 | Jade1 | (~Jade1@ip-178-201-128-039.um46.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2022-08-04 11:32:36 +0200 | Guest8343 | (~Guest83@1.39.30.16) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-04 11:35:31 +0200 | sogens[m]1 | (~sogensmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1:20a1) |
| 2022-08-04 11:37:22 +0200 | <sogens[m]1> | hello all love xmonad even though im currently using boring gnome |
| 2022-08-04 11:37:41 +0200 | qbt | (~qbt@user/edun) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-04 11:44:59 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-04 11:45:10 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) |
| 2022-08-04 11:45:24 +0200 | <diep> | Also, I have a terminal window with this WM_CLASS attribute <"Alacritty", "nnn"> and I fail to write a match using `className` |
| 2022-08-04 11:45:41 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) (Client Quit) |
| 2022-08-04 11:45:47 +0200 | <diep> | WM_CLASS(STRING) = "Alacritty", "nnn" |
| 2022-08-04 11:45:52 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens) |
| 2022-08-04 11:46:40 +0200 | <diep> | How Im suppose to write the matcher? Like `className =? "Alacritty, nnn"` doesnt work |
| 2022-08-04 11:50:51 +0200 | <Solid> | diep: className matches on the second string of WM_CLASS |
| 2022-08-04 11:51:07 +0200 | <Solid> | appName matches on the first |
| 2022-08-04 11:51:57 +0200 | <diep> | hmm this is not clear in the doc, but thx! Now the question is, how can I write this in haskell xD |
| 2022-08-04 11:52:12 +0200 | <diep> | to combine both matchs? |
| 2022-08-04 11:57:01 +0200 | <Solid> | something like `appName =? "Alacritty" <&&> className =? "nnn" --> doSomethingIdon'tKnow` should work |
| 2022-08-04 11:57:17 +0200 | <Solid> | and contributions wrt improving docs always welcome :) |
| 2022-08-04 11:58:58 +0200 | <diep> | big thx! For doc contribution, I'll check for it ;) |
| 2022-08-04 12:03:03 +0200 | redgloboli | (~redglobol@user/redgloboli) (Quit: ...enter the matrix...) |
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| 2022-08-04 13:50:39 +0200 | Guest8343 | (~Guest83@1.39.30.16) |
| 2022-08-04 13:51:08 +0200 | <Guest8343> | I'm trying to convert my old key map from `additionalKeys` to emacs style |
| 2022-08-04 13:51:31 +0200 | <Guest8343> | but I'm confused what I should do here: |
| 2022-08-04 13:51:44 +0200 | <Guest8343> | ```hs |
| 2022-08-04 13:51:44 +0200 | <Guest8343> | ((modm, xK_w), submap . M.fromList $ |
| 2022-08-04 13:51:45 +0200 | <Guest8343> | [ ((m, k), windows $ f i) |
| 2022-08-04 13:51:46 +0200 | <Guest8343> | , (f, m) <- [(W.greedyView, 0), (W.shift, shiftMask)] |
| 2022-08-04 13:51:46 +0200 | <Guest8343> | ]) |
| 2022-08-04 13:51:47 +0200 | <Guest8343> | ``` |
| 2022-08-04 13:52:19 +0200 | <Guest8343> | Anyone here? |
| 2022-08-04 13:55:45 +0200 | <sogens[m]1> | today I found out to quit emacs you just do the same thing you do in vim |
| 2022-08-04 13:55:54 +0200 | <sogens[m]1> | and to save too!!! |
| 2022-08-04 13:56:05 +0200 | <Guest8343> | huh? |
| 2022-08-04 13:56:50 +0200 | <sogens[m]1> | sorry I cant help you |
| 2022-08-04 13:56:58 +0200 | <Guest8343> | I was asking how do I convert the above submap I made for switching workspaces to emacs style |
| 2022-08-04 13:57:50 +0200 | logzet | (~quassel@2001:9e8:e50d:7a00:dabb:c1ff:fed3:a1b9) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-08-04 13:58:28 +0200 | <Solid> | depends on how deeply you want to do this; if it's just for type-checking purposes then changing the first (modm, xK_w) to "M-w" should be enough |
| 2022-08-04 13:59:54 +0200 | <Guest8343> | so i still need to import submap right? |
| 2022-08-04 14:00:59 +0200 | <Solid> | yes |
| 2022-08-04 14:04:53 +0200 | <Solid> | something like http://ix.io/46E2 would only use EZConfig syntax (since that actually supports submaps ootb), but I don't think it's necessarily more readable in this case |
| 2022-08-04 14:06:28 +0200 | <Guest8343> | Solid actually I was creating my new config from scratch as the old one was a big mess |
| 2022-08-04 14:06:35 +0200 | <Guest8343> | so I have a problem here |
| 2022-08-04 14:07:41 +0200 | <Guest8343> | Solid https://pastebin.com/aXsiSkbQ |
| 2022-08-04 14:08:08 +0200 | <Guest8343> | This is the current state of my config. How should I go about adding my old workspace switching submap to my new config? |
| 2022-08-04 14:09:31 +0200 | <Guest8343> | hey guys? |
| 2022-08-04 14:13:24 +0200 | <Solid> | well, first of all you probably don't want `keys = myKeys` since that would override _all_ of the default bindings |
| 2022-08-04 14:14:24 +0200 | <Solid> | try something like http://ix.io/46E6 |
| 2022-08-04 14:14:53 +0200 | <Solid> | might need to import qualified Data.Map as M as well |
| 2022-08-04 14:16:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | Solid, you got those reversed |
| 2022-08-04 14:17:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | Guest8343, see https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L231-L236 |
| 2022-08-04 14:17:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but use greedyView instead if view |
| 2022-08-04 14:17:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *of |
| 2022-08-04 14:18:43 +0200 | <Solid> | geekosaur: huh? |
| 2022-08-04 14:19:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think "Alacritty" is the className? |
| 2022-08-04 14:21:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | quite the active overnight |
| 2022-08-04 14:21:16 +0200 | <Solid> | I would also intuitively assume that but they posted `WM_CLASS(STRING) = "Alacritty", "nnn"` |
| 2022-08-04 14:21:19 +0200 | <alternateved> | sogens[m]1: I guess that depends if you use evil mode |
| 2022-08-04 14:21:26 +0200 | <Solid> | and className definitely gets the second string in WM_CLASS |
| 2022-08-04 14:21:52 +0200 | <Guest8343> | geekosaur currently facing this error: https://imgur.com/95kM3cD |
| 2022-08-04 14:22:32 +0200 | <alternateved> | Solid: how is your health? Is it better now? |
| 2022-08-04 14:22:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you probably shouldn't have called your list `workspaces`. since you did, you have to use `Main.workspaces` there |
| 2022-08-04 14:23:23 +0200 | <Solid> | alternateved: yeah all I have is a very light cough now, otherwise I'm all good; thanks for asking :) |
| 2022-08-04 14:23:38 +0200 | <alternateved> | Oh, that is great to hear |
| 2022-08-04 14:24:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | Jade1, at the moment KDE and MATE are the best desktop environments to use xmonad with. but KDE needs a patch (https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174) |
| 2022-08-04 14:24:02 +0200 | <alternateved> | s/hear/read |
| 2022-08-04 14:24:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I'm actively maintaining the MATE integration, since I use it myself |
| 2022-08-04 14:25:37 +0200 | <Guest8343> | geekosaur hey it is working now but just to make sure it's correct: https://pastebin.com/DkaF8Zba |
| 2022-08-04 14:26:07 +0200 | <Guest8343> | and i didn't understand it's context with https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/d60036ffd53c32d20452a5eef963c0f8503f20da/xmonad.hs#L23… |
| 2022-08-04 14:27:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | looks correct to me |
| 2022-08-04 14:27:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and I was showing how I do the list comprehension in emacs-keys mode |
| 2022-08-04 14:27:45 +0200 | <Guest8343> | Should I make changes similar to yours or is mine |
| 2022-08-04 14:27:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yours is fine |
| 2022-08-04 14:28:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | mine has a few more workspaces, and I don't use a submap |
| 2022-08-04 14:28:30 +0200 | <Guest8343> | and also out of the context, I don't know haskell. I just read and edit code. So should I learn a little haskell right now? |
| 2022-08-04 14:28:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it can help, but most people set up their config once and never touch it again so it may not help much 🙂 |
| 2022-08-04 14:29:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | @where books |
| 2022-08-04 14:29:03 +0200 | <lambdabot> | See `LYAH',`RWH',`YAHT',`SOE',`HR',`PIH',`TFwH',`wikibook',`PCPH',`HPFFP',`FSAF',`HftVB',`HTAC',`TwT',`FoP',`PFAD',`WYAH',`non-haskell-books'. Also <https://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/learn-sources. |
| 2022-08-04 14:29:03 +0200 | <lambdabot> | html>,<https://www.extrema.is/articles/haskell-books> |
| 2022-08-04 14:29:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm, pity that url gets broken in the middle |
| 2022-08-04 14:29:48 +0200 | <Guest8343> | vex |
| 2022-08-04 14:29:50 +0200 | <Guest8343> | ya |
| 2022-08-04 14:29:59 +0200 | <Guest8343> | I'll pick one short book |
| 2022-08-04 14:30:10 +0200 | <Guest8343> | or maybe if there's a nice blog |
| 2022-08-04 14:30:35 +0200 | <Guest8343> | btw, do you think the way distrotube configures his xmonad is a little terrible? |
| 2022-08-04 14:31:13 +0200 | <evilop> | a little? |
| 2022-08-04 14:31:56 +0200 | <Guest8343> | umm... kinda.. cause I've followed his way of doing things quite a few times and my config started becoming a big mess so I've started doing things from scratch now |
| 2022-08-04 14:32:41 +0200 | <Guest8343> | It got really broken when I started using Deocration for "one sided border" after taking a look at leary's comment on github |
| 2022-08-04 14:32:56 +0200 | <Guest8343> | Is there a better way to do "one sided border"? |
| 2022-08-04 14:33:10 +0200 | <alternateved> | My opinion is that the best route is doing things from scratch - this gives you the least issues as you understand what you are doing |
| 2022-08-04 14:33:41 +0200 | <Guest8343> | one sided border as show here: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/152#issuecomment-362716434 |
| 2022-08-04 14:33:54 +0200 | <alternateved> | If you use someone's config, you could get lost pretty quickly if you would want to change something |
| 2022-08-04 14:34:05 +0200 | <Guest8343> | alternateved agreed. same goes for my vim journey. |
| 2022-08-04 14:35:12 +0200 | <alternateved> | Also, I think it is much more valuable to get to know things by yourself without taking such shortcuts |
| 2022-08-04 14:35:53 +0200 | <alternateved> | But you know, there are different use-cases - some people just want to get something working and move on with their lives |
| 2022-08-04 14:44:13 +0200 | <alternateved> | Solid: you use X Emacs build and setDefaultCursor from X.U.Cursor, right? |
| 2022-08-04 14:44:53 +0200 | <Solid> | alternateved: yes |
| 2022-08-04 14:45:01 +0200 | <alternateved> | Did you ever had some situations where mouse pointer (cursor) gets colored pitch black? |
| 2022-08-04 14:45:17 +0200 | <alternateved> | Only in Emacs frame? |
| 2022-08-04 14:45:59 +0200 | <Solid> | mh, no, I've never had that happen |
| 2022-08-04 14:46:07 +0200 | <alternateved> | As lately I was trying the X build and this made mouse pointer unusable, when the Emacs theme is dark |
| 2022-08-04 14:46:22 +0200 | <alternateved> | Hmm |
| 2022-08-04 14:46:57 +0200 | <alternateved> | Haha, weirdly enough I have no such issues with pgtk build |
| 2022-08-04 14:47:35 +0200 | <Solid> | x) |
| 2022-08-04 14:47:37 +0200 | <alternateved> | At the same time, I cannot have floating scratchpad with pgtk build, while I could with X build |
| 2022-08-04 14:48:05 +0200 | <Solid> | i will note that I don't use GTK or something, I just build Emacs with lucid |
| 2022-08-04 14:48:06 +0200 | <alternateved> | I need to dig a bit what is causing the pointer color change only in Emacs |
| 2022-08-04 14:48:09 +0200 | <Solid> | so that may also have an effect |
| 2022-08-04 14:49:58 +0200 | <alternateved> | Oh, right |
| 2022-08-04 14:51:26 +0200 | <alternateved> | So `--with-x-toolkit=lucid` option, yes? |
| 2022-08-04 14:51:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | mouse pointer will be up to the toolkit |
| 2022-08-04 14:51:49 +0200 | <alternateved> | I was using just simple `--with-x`, but I am not sure what exactly this does |
| 2022-08-04 14:52:14 +0200 | <Solid> | yeah `--with-x-toolkit=athena` (but i think lucid also works) |
| 2022-08-04 14:52:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it just enables things like frame support, using the Athena toolkit |
| 2022-08-04 14:52:21 +0200 | <alternateved> | Apart from the using X Window System |
| 2022-08-04 14:53:29 +0200 | <Guest8343> | I was rewriting my config from scratch and copied this line: |
| 2022-08-04 14:53:30 +0200 | <Guest8343> | `[ ((modMask .|. shiftMask, xK_Return), spawn $ XMonad.terminal conf)` |
| 2022-08-04 14:53:30 +0200 | <Guest8343> | but xmessage says "variable conf not in scope" |
| 2022-08-04 14:53:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | correct, it won't be in scope using emacs-style |
| 2022-08-04 14:54:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it was originally extracted from the parameters to myKeys |
| 2022-08-04 14:55:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | asks XMonad.terminal . config >>= spawn |
| 2022-08-04 14:55:11 +0200 | <Guest8343> | so should I just do: spawn "alacritty" instead of adding myTerminal=alacritty and then doing terminal=myTerminal? |
| 2022-08-04 14:55:57 +0200 | <evilop> | or just do terminal="alacritty" |
| 2022-08-04 14:56:12 +0200 | <Guest8343> | okay |
| 2022-08-04 14:56:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | see the line with the >>= |
| 2022-08-04 14:56:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that's the equivalent for emacs-style, it extracts your terminal from the config and passes it to spawn |
| 2022-08-04 14:57:25 +0200 | <Guest8343> | so it extracts it from the line `myTerminal = "alacritty"`? |
| 2022-08-04 14:57:37 +0200 | <diep> | Hi again, I repost my previous question, Im using a namedscratchpad to spawn firefox, as floating, but the firefox spawns in a no floating window, here is the relevent config part https://paste.ofcode.org/yjDZgUpBSDpfCmd86kMuB3 Any idea about what can cause the problem? Please note that this scratchpad works correctly, the problem is just that the window is not floating |
| 2022-08-04 14:58:21 +0200 | <alternateved> | Is it really the title of the window? "stuff - Mozilla Firefox" |
| 2022-08-04 14:58:51 +0200 | <diep> | I replaced the real one by "stuff", this is not relevent |
| 2022-08-04 14:59:43 +0200 | <evilop> | firefox forking can make it a bit more complicated |
| 2022-08-04 15:00:00 +0200 | <diep> | When I press on the associated shortcut, it spawns/hides/shows/hides that window as expected, as far as I know |
| 2022-08-04 15:02:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the problem with browsers is nothing is set up whyen the window first spawns. chrome windows have a random string as the title (which is actually the component id of whatever manages new windows) until they're rendered. matching would work fine after that, but not when first spawned |
| 2022-08-04 15:02:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you need to use something like X.H.DynamicProperty to watch for the title being set afterward and float the window |
| 2022-08-04 15:04:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sadly, this also includes things that are mandatory-set at map time like class, name, role (that is, they ognore the "mandatory" and set them after mapping) |
| 2022-08-04 15:04:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | which is all because it's all done by JS that doesn't run until after mapping |
| 2022-08-04 15:08:47 +0200 | jao | (~jao@cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 2022-08-04 15:09:24 +0200 | <diep> | humm looks too complicated for me, I think I'll give up on this xD |
| 2022-08-04 15:31:34 +0200 | Guest8343 | (~Guest83@1.39.30.16) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2022-08-04 15:34:49 +0200 | Guest833 | (~Guest83@1.39.30.16) |
| 2022-08-04 15:35:25 +0200 | <Guest833> | geekosaur why does my current config expect me to use additionalKeys sytnax under the submap instead of string syntax? |
| 2022-08-04 15:36:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | because that's how submap is defined. additionalKeysP syntax integrates submaps though |
| 2022-08-04 15:36:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L199-L205 |
| 2022-08-04 15:38:17 +0200 | gdd1 | gdd |
| 2022-08-04 15:39:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so for example "M-C-cl" will automatically define M-C-c" as a submap and then define "l" as a key within it, and reuse that submap for the other ones starting with "M-C-c" |
| 2022-08-04 15:40:37 +0200 | <Guest833> | oh so i shouldn't be using M.fromlist but rather the emacs syntax all the way |
| 2022-08-04 15:40:57 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yep |
| 2022-08-04 15:41:13 +0200 | <geekosaur> | emacs syntax handles a bunch of things you'd otherwise have to do manually |
| 2022-08-04 15:41:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's why we recommend it these days |
| 2022-08-04 15:42:35 +0200 | <Guest833> | ` ("M-s s", asks XMonad.terminal . config >>= spawn), |
| 2022-08-04 15:42:36 +0200 | <Guest833> | ` is this wrong |
| 2022-08-04 15:43:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | oh, I may have missed some parens there. also that key sequence would be read as M-s space s |
| 2022-08-04 15:43:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | asks (XMonad.terminal . config) >>= spawn |
| 2022-08-04 15:44:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (and no, you can't use $) |
| 2022-08-04 15:45:07 +0200 | <Guest833> | but |
| 2022-08-04 15:45:14 +0200 | <Guest833> | from the docs |
| 2022-08-04 15:45:22 +0200 | <Guest833> | , ("M-x y", spawn "xmessage 'yay!'") -- type mod+x then y to pop up 'yay!' |
| 2022-08-04 15:45:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *Main> :t asks (XMonad.terminal . config) >>= spawn |
| 2022-08-04 15:45:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | asks (XMonad.terminal . config) >>= spawn |
| 2022-08-04 15:45:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | :: (MonadReader XConf m, MonadIO m) => m () |
| 2022-08-04 15:46:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm. maybe it does ignore spaces. I've always left them out |
| 2022-08-04 15:47:11 +0200 | <Guest833> | I didn't understand the above code you pasted |
| 2022-08-04 15:47:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | right, explicit space is <Space>. carry on then |
| 2022-08-04 15:47:25 +0200 | <Guest833> | Where is that supposed to go and what does it do |
| 2022-08-04 15:47:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that was just showing that the code typechecks in ghci |
| 2022-08-04 15:48:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (cabal repl on my config) |
| 2022-08-04 15:48:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | ":t" asks ghci the type of some expression |
| 2022-08-04 15:48:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it also works in lambdabot in here, but that doesn't and can't have xmonad loaded |
| 2022-08-04 15:49:38 +0200 | <Guest833> | I don't understand much |
| 2022-08-04 15:49:42 +0200 | <Guest833> | how should i be making this binding? |
| 2022-08-04 15:49:44 +0200 | <Guest833> | ("M-s s", launch my terminal), |
| 2022-08-04 15:50:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I would write it as: ("M-s s", asks (XMonad.terminal . config) >>= spawn) |
| 2022-08-04 15:51:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you don't really have to understand the "asks" part, suffice it that it's retrieving your config and looking up the "terminal" part |
| 2022-08-04 15:53:48 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-149-36.toya.net.pl) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:11 +0200 | <Guest833> | geekosaur |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:12 +0200 | <Guest833> | main = xmonad $ def |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:12 +0200 | <Guest833> | { modMask = mod4Mask, |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:13 +0200 | <Guest833> | terminal = "alacritty" |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:13 +0200 | <Guest833> | } |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:15 +0200 | <Guest833> | correct? |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:24 +0200 | <Guest833> | btw, I'm very sorry to bother you so much |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that's fine, it's why I hang out in here |
| 2022-08-04 15:54:49 +0200 | <Guest833> | I need to configure my xmonad rn just enough to get it working and then I'll take time to learn some haskell |
| 2022-08-04 15:58:26 +0200 | evilop | (~Urist@archlinux/op/MrElendig) (Quit: setting you up the bomb) |
| 2022-08-04 15:59:37 +0200 | MrElendig | (~Urist@archlinux/op/MrElendig) |
| 2022-08-04 16:09:46 +0200 | Nahra | (~user@static.161.95.99.88.clients.your-server.de) |
| 2022-08-04 16:10:28 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | <geekosaur> "you don't really have to..." <- That's interesting. Currently I'm passing my config record to my keybindings definition as a parameter and calling `spawn (terminal config)` (to avoid annoying type signatures, I define the config with `where` in `main`. |
| 2022-08-04 16:10:28 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | Would this `asks` function mean that I don't have to pass my config to my keybindings as a parameter, or am I misunderstanding? This would seem strange as otherwise my keybindings definition is pure. |
| 2022-08-04 16:10:58 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | * That's interesting. Currently I'm passing my config record to my keybindings definition as a parameter and calling `spawn (terminal config)` (to avoid annoying type signatures, I define the config with `where` in `main`. |
| 2022-08-04 16:10:58 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | Would this `asks` function mean that I don't have to pass my config to my keybindings as a parameter, or am I misunderstanding? This would seem strange as otherwise my keybindings definition is pure. |
| 2022-08-04 16:11:01 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | * That's interesting. Currently I'm passing my config record to my keybindings definition as a parameter and calling `spawn (terminal config)` (to avoid annoying type signatures, I define the config with `where` in `main`. |
| 2022-08-04 16:11:01 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | Would this `asks` function mean that I don't have to pass my config to my keybindings as a parameter, or am I misunderstanding? This would seem strange as otherwise my keybindings definition is pure. |
| 2022-08-04 16:11:12 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | * That's interesting. Currently I'm passing my config record to my keybindings definition as a parameter and calling `spawn (terminal config)` (to avoid annoying type signatures, I define the config with `where` in `main`. |
| 2022-08-04 16:11:12 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | Would this `asks` function mean that I don't have to pass my config to my keybindings as a parameter, or am I misunderstanding? This would seem strange as otherwise my keybindings definition is pure. |
| 2022-08-04 16:12:53 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | You may have defined them as pure but they run in X |
| 2022-08-04 16:13:41 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | Otherwise spawning wouldn't work |
| 2022-08-04 16:14:08 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | Ah yes, that makes sense thanks! |
| 2022-08-04 16:14:21 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | * That's interesting. Currently I'm passing my config record to my keybindings definition as a parameter and calling `spawn (terminal config)` (to avoid annoying type signatures, I define the config with `where` in `main`). |
| 2022-08-04 16:14:21 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | Would this `asks` function mean that I don't have to pass my config to my keybindings as a parameter, or am I misunderstanding? This would seem strange as otherwise my keybindings definition is pure. |
| 2022-08-04 16:14:56 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | If you look at the type it's (String -> X ()) |
| 2022-08-04 16:15:29 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | Sorry (String, X ()) |
| 2022-08-04 16:16:57 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | And everything in X can access my config record using `asks`? |
| 2022-08-04 16:17:17 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | Yes |
| 2022-08-04 16:19:00 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2022-08-04 16:22:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you want to poke around, `asks` looks things up in `XConf` and `gets` looks things up in `XState`, both of which are defined in `XMonad/Core.hs` |
| 2022-08-04 16:22:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (the difference is that `XConf` never changes after xmonad starts, while `XState` is the live "mutable" state of xmonad) |
| 2022-08-04 16:23:01 +0200 | sogens2 | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2022-08-04 16:24:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | btw all that editing works fine in Matrix but it makes a real mess in IRC |
| 2022-08-04 16:25:24 +0200 | sogens2 | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-04 16:25:34 +0200 | Guest833 | (~Guest83@1.39.30.16) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-04 16:25:42 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | Oh, sorry - I didn't realise this was also on IRC! Does it send a new message each time? I will try not to do that again |
| 2022-08-04 16:25:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-08-04 16:26:17 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | Thanks for letting me know |
| 2022-08-04 16:27:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yeh, we have the Matrix room joined to an IRC channel. it's convenient but gets messy when some of Matrix's fancier features get involved |
| 2022-08-04 16:35:21 +0200 | <Solid> | quarkQuark[m]: since you're asking about asks (heh): now is a great time for you to learn about reader monads! :> |
| 2022-08-04 16:45:12 +0200 | <quarkQuark[m]> | I suppose I'll give them a 'read'! |
| 2022-08-04 16:46:28 +0200 | <Solid> | :^) |
| 2022-08-04 16:46:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | they're not difficult, at least while wrapped in a Reader. (the unwrapped version is somewhat mind-bending, but it's simple and safe while wrapped) |
| 2022-08-04 16:48:25 +0200 | sogens2 | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-04 16:48:41 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-04 16:49:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | ("safe" with respect to your sanity, that is, there's nothing otherwise unsafe about them) |
| 2022-08-04 17:10:59 +0200 | diep | (~diep@2a01:cb11:2d7:4a00:a13f:e40c:c4e8:736c) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-08-04 17:12:28 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-04 17:12:44 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-04 17:15:13 +0200 | <Hash> | !monad |
| 2022-08-04 17:15:23 +0200 | <Hash> | Come on bot! |
| 2022-08-04 17:15:28 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Client Quit) |
| 2022-08-04 17:15:44 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-04 17:17:57 +0200 | qbt | (~qbt@user/edun) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-04 17:23:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | what were you looking for? |
| 2022-08-04 17:24:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | first off, there are only two (known) bots in here and neither responds to ! |
| 2022-08-04 17:24:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | second, the main bot you'd query doesn't accept that. |
| 2022-08-04 17:25:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | @google you could have invented monads |
| 2022-08-04 17:25:23 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Plugin `search' failed with: <<timeout>> |
| 2022-08-04 17:25:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | mm, still broken. sad |
| 2022-08-04 17:25:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | http://blog.sigfpe.com/2006/08/you-could-have-invented-monads-and.html |
| 2022-08-04 17:27:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, the concept derives from category theory. but th4ese aren't category theory monads and you don't care about category theory when using or even defining them |
| 2022-08-04 17:30:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (we don't even define it properly for category theory, that'd be join and fmap instead of return and bind) |
| 2022-08-04 17:31:43 +0200 | <Hash> | Oh ok |
| 2022-08-04 17:31:45 +0200 | <Hash> | I dunno the bots here yet |
| 2022-08-04 17:32:19 +0200 | <Hash> | Category theory. I did some stuff there in algorithm generation |
| 2022-08-04 17:32:28 +0200 | <Hash> | Robitics stuff. Fun. |
| 2022-08-04 17:32:50 +0200 | <Hash> | I never knew Robots need to generate algorithms for various problems on the fly. |
| 2022-08-04 17:32:59 +0200 | <Hash> | Pretty cool. But neither here nor there! |
| 2022-08-04 17:33:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that's the direction robotics has been going, yes |
| 2022-08-04 17:33:21 +0200 | <geekosaur> | because it's what we do, and fixed algorithms don't work well in the real world |
| 2022-08-04 17:49:49 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-08-04 18:00:12 +0200 | Melkor333[m] | (~melkor333@2001:470:69fc:105::2:3ef7) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
| 2022-08-04 18:02:44 +0200 | Guest8311 | (~Guest83@114.143.131.219) |
| 2022-08-04 18:03:20 +0200 | <Guest8311> | main = xmonad $ def |
| 2022-08-04 18:03:20 +0200 | <Guest8311> | { modMask = mod4Mask, |
| 2022-08-04 18:03:21 +0200 | <Guest8311> | terminal = "alacritty", |
| 2022-08-04 18:03:21 +0200 | <Guest8311> | borderWidth = 0, |
| 2022-08-04 18:03:22 +0200 | <Guest8311> | layoutHook = myLayout |
| 2022-08-04 18:03:22 +0200 | <Guest8311> | } |
| 2022-08-04 18:03:23 +0200 | <Guest8311> | `additionalKeysP` myKeys |
| 2022-08-04 18:03:23 +0200 | <Guest8311> | Hey, geekosaur is it okay to override borderwidth in the def block? |
| 2022-08-04 18:04:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-08-04 18:04:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L133 |
| 2022-08-04 18:04:46 +0200 | <Guest8311> | and if you replied to my text about "moving windows to workspaces" using submaps then I've missed those texts |
| 2022-08-04 18:04:51 +0200 | <Guest8311> | I was disconnected |
| 2022-08-04 18:05:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think I missed that question |
| 2022-08-04 18:08:21 +0200 | <Guest8311> | geekosaur |
| 2022-08-04 18:08:23 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ("M-w", submap . M.fromList $ |
| 2022-08-04 18:08:24 +0200 | <Guest8311> | [ ((m, k), windows $ f i) |
| 2022-08-04 18:08:24 +0200 | <Guest8311> | | (i, k) <- zip myWorkspaces [xK_1 .. xK_9] |
| 2022-08-04 18:08:25 +0200 | <Guest8311> | , (f, m) <- [(W.greedyView, 0), (W.shift, shiftMask)] |
| 2022-08-04 18:08:25 +0200 | <Guest8311> | -- ((modm, xK_p), toggleWS), |
| 2022-08-04 18:08:26 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ]) |
| 2022-08-04 18:08:42 +0200 | <Guest8311> | Now the above block changes to a certain workspace using submap |
| 2022-08-04 18:08:57 +0200 | <Guest8311> | Is it possible to create a submap to move windows to workspaces? |
| 2022-08-04 18:09:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that one actually does both |
| 2022-08-04 18:09:26 +0200 | <Guest8311> | what's the binding? |
| 2022-08-04 18:09:45 +0200 | <Guest8311> | okay |
| 2022-08-04 18:09:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the shifted version does the move |
| 2022-08-04 18:09:54 +0200 | <Guest8311> | mod+w and shift+num |
| 2022-08-04 18:10:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that's the (W.shift, shiftMask) part |
| 2022-08-04 18:10:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the first being the operation and the second being the mask, so you could for example change that to controlMask if you wanted |
| 2022-08-04 18:11:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the various operations you can do with `windows` are in XMonad.StackSet |
| 2022-08-04 18:13:07 +0200 | <Guest8311> | I was trying to seperate the moving part into another submap |
| 2022-08-04 18:13:09 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ("M-u", submap . M.fromList $ |
| 2022-08-04 18:13:09 +0200 | <Guest8311> | [ (f, m) <- [(W.greedyView, 0), (W.shift, [xK_1 .. xK_9])] |
| 2022-08-04 18:13:09 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ]) |
| 2022-08-04 18:13:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you need a bit more to be a proper list comprehension |
| 2022-08-04 18:15:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | [ ((0, k), windows $ shift i) | (i, k) <- zip myWorkspaces [xK_1 .. xK_9] |
| 2022-08-04 18:15:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | whoops |
| 2022-08-04 18:15:15 +0200 | <geekosaur> | [ ((0, k), windows $ shift i) | (i, k) <- zip myWorkspaces [xK_1 .. xK_9]] |
| 2022-08-04 18:15:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | still wrong, needs to be W.shift |
| 2022-08-04 18:15:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but you get the idea, hopefully |
| 2022-08-04 18:16:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the part before the | is a template for each element of the result list,m the part after it is how to build it |
| 2022-08-04 18:18:48 +0200 | <Guest8311> | okay worked |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:01 +0200 | <Guest8311> | geekosaur |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes? |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:18 +0200 | <Guest8311> | I'm trying to understand both the blocks so that I can clean this one: |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:20 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ("M-w", submap . M.fromList $ |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:20 +0200 | <Guest8311> | [ ((m, k), windows $ f i) |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:21 +0200 | <Guest8311> | | (i, k) <- zip myWorkspaces [xK_1 .. xK_9] |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:21 +0200 | <Guest8311> | , (f, m) <- [(W.greedyView, 0), (W.shift, shiftMask)] |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:22 +0200 | <Guest8311> | -- ((modm, xK_p), toggleWS), |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:22 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ]), |
| 2022-08-04 18:32:26 +0200 | <Guest8311> | but I just can't |
| 2022-08-04 18:33:04 +0200 | <Guest8311> | In the above block I want to remove the submap of moving windows to a workspace and add in that submap a binding "p" to move to the previous workspace |
| 2022-08-04 18:33:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you can't really do the previous workspace thing in there |
| 2022-08-04 18:34:31 +0200 | <Guest8311> | so if I create another block of the same submap just to switch to previous workspace then does that create a conflict? |
| 2022-08-04 18:35:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it'll overwrite the other one |
| 2022-08-04 18:35:32 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ugh |
| 2022-08-04 18:35:36 +0200 | <Guest8311> | so not possible? |
| 2022-08-04 18:35:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you need to let additionalKeysP do the submap creation for them to be coalesced |
| 2022-08-04 18:36:05 +0200 | <Guest8311> | Okay I'll add that |
| 2022-08-04 18:37:22 +0200 | <Guest8311> | but |
| 2022-08-04 18:37:30 +0200 | <Guest8311> | um I've already imported ezconfig |
| 2022-08-04 18:37:53 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-04 18:37:56 +0200 | <Guest8311> | do I need to explicitly import `additionalkeysP`? and does that mean I can't use emacs style? |
| 2022-08-04 18:40:27 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-04 18:41:09 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/XS0j6WyU |
| 2022-08-04 18:41:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you're already usingt additionalKeysP, you'll just be using it a bit more than you were |
| 2022-08-04 18:42:16 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the thing I pasted is what goes at the end of your current additionalKeysP list |
| 2022-08-04 18:43:37 +0200 | benin0 | (~benin@183.82.25.146) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
| 2022-08-04 18:44:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm, slightly wrong, that's prev window not prev ws |
| 2022-08-04 18:44:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | CycleRecentWS or CycleWS depending on how you define "previous" |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:17 +0200 | <Guest8311> | , ("M-w p", rotAllUp) -- import XMonad.Actions.RotSlaves |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:18 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ] |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:18 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ++ |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:19 +0200 | <Guest8311> | [ ("M-w " ++ k, windows $ W.greedyView i) |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:19 +0200 | <Guest8311> | | (i, k) <- zip myWorkspaces ["1" .. "9"] |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:20 +0200 | <Guest8311> | ] |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:26 +0200 | <Guest8311> | this block goes exactly where? |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:35 +0200 | <geekosaur> | please don't paste like that directly into the channel |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we have a pastebin |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | @where paste |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:43 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 2022-08-04 18:45:53 +0200 | <Guest8311> | okay sorry |
| 2022-08-04 18:46:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | \anyway I can't tell you exactly without seeing the rest of your config |
| 2022-08-04 18:46:57 +0200 | <Guest8311> | https://pastebin.com/hrfnRHBv |
| 2022-08-04 18:47:01 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-04 18:47:04 +0200 | <Guest8311> | my current config state |
| 2022-08-04 18:48:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | anyway it';s slightly wrong, as I said, you don;'t want rotAllUp, you want either (moveTo Prev hiddenWS) (from XMonad.Actions.CycleWS) or toggleRecentWS (from XMonad.Actions.CycleRecentWS) |
| 2022-08-04 18:48:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sigh. did you have to use that pastebin when I pointed you at a saner one? |
| 2022-08-04 18:49:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I mean, did you even look at the result? |
| 2022-08-04 18:49:37 +0200 | <Guest8311> | oh I didn't take a look... I thought the actual pastebin thing... its a little too popular |
| 2022-08-04 18:50:04 +0200 | <Guest8311> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/F7dbWmIi |
| 2022-08-04 18:52:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it's practically unreadable for haskell code, sorry |
| 2022-08-04 18:52:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I'm patching up what you sent |
| 2022-08-04 18:52:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you misunderstood what I meant somewhat |
| 2022-08-04 18:53:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/9Q55yHIc |
| 2022-08-04 18:54:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you don't put it inside the list (except the toggleRecentWS part), you append it to the list |
| 2022-08-04 18:54:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I assumed toggleRecentWS because you turn out to already be doing the other one with M-<L> and M-<R> |
| 2022-08-04 18:57:49 +0200 | <Guest8311> | the part we appended to the list |
| 2022-08-04 18:57:55 +0200 | <Guest8311> | doesn't compile |
| 2022-08-04 18:59:35 +0200 | <Guest8311> | https://imgur.com/XvDULLI |
| 2022-08-04 18:59:42 +0200 | <Guest8311> | This is the error |
| 2022-08-04 18:59:58 +0200 | <Guest8311> | changing it to emacs style doesn't solve it |
| 2022-08-04 19:01:17 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | It wouldn't. Hold on a few minutes |
| 2022-08-04 19:01:55 +0200 | <Guest8311> | okay |
| 2022-08-04 19:11:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/PveoOU9m |
| 2022-08-04 19:12:02 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-04 19:12:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (it's not perl :/) |
| 2022-08-04 19:14:58 +0200 | <Guest8311> | do i really need both: |
| 2022-08-04 19:14:59 +0200 | <Guest8311> | import XMonad.Actions.CycleWS |
| 2022-08-04 19:14:59 +0200 | <Guest8311> | import XMonad.Actions.CycleRecentWS |
| 2022-08-04 19:15:12 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, they do different things |
| 2022-08-04 19:15:21 +0200 | <Guest8311> | okay |
| 2022-08-04 19:15:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you already have M-<L> and M-<R> to switch to the previous/next workspace by number |
| 2022-08-04 19:16:02 +0200 | <Guest8311> | no |
| 2022-08-04 19:16:17 +0200 | <Guest8311> | they just instantly switch to the next or previous workspace |
| 2022-08-04 19:16:32 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-08-04 19:16:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | then what did you want M-w p to do? |
| 2022-08-04 19:17:01 +0200 | <Guest8311> | to switch to recent on |
| 2022-08-04 19:17:14 +0200 | <Guest8311> | suppose i switch from 1 to 6 |
| 2022-08-04 19:17:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | right, that's what toggleRecentWS from CycleRecentWS does |
| 2022-08-04 19:17:25 +0200 | <Guest8311> | then to go back to 1 i just press m-w p |
| 2022-08-04 19:18:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | by "by number" I meant that if you were on "5" M-<R> would go to "6" |
| 2022-08-04 19:18:19 +0200 | <Guest8311> | oh yea |
| 2022-08-04 19:18:30 +0200 | <Guest8311> | but that would be like switching one by one |
| 2022-08-04 19:18:40 +0200 | <Guest8311> | sometimes m-w p would be more convenient |
| 2022-08-04 19:18:49 +0200 | <Guest8311> | btw, have you ever seen this: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/152#issuecomment-362716434 |
| 2022-08-04 19:18:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, that's why I assumes that was what you wanted and brought in toggleRecentWS |
| 2022-08-04 19:19:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I've seen every issue in the tracker, since I'm the primary maintainer 🙂 |
| 2022-08-04 19:19:53 +0200 | <Guest8311> | oh |
| 2022-08-04 19:19:58 +0200 | <Guest8311> | you're the maintainer |
| 2022-08-04 19:20:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sadly nobody has packaged that up as a contrib, it just gets copied around in people's xmonad.hs files |
| 2022-08-04 19:20:09 +0200 | <Guest8311> | how do you even get time for all this |
| 2022-08-04 19:20:33 +0200 | <Guest8311> | but is there a cleaner way to do it? |
| 2022-08-04 19:20:55 +0200 | <Guest8311> | a packaged contrib also would've been more convenient |
| 2022-08-04 19:22:19 +0200 | <sogens[m]1> | installing arch linux so i can steal distrotubes xmonad config |
| 2022-08-04 19:22:32 +0200 | <sogens[m]1> | because im not a pro programmer who can make sick layouts |
| 2022-08-04 19:23:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it looks pretty clean to me as it is, aside from the Eq glitch mentioned later on (which isn't readily fixable without breaking all other uses of Decoration) |
| 2022-08-04 19:23:52 +0200 | <Guest8311> | Eq glitch? |
| 2022-08-04 19:24:20 +0200 | <Guest8311> | do you mean where the windows start disappearing and there's decoration artifacts on the screen? |
| 2022-08-04 19:24:22 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/152#issuecomment-447585325 |
| 2022-08-04 19:25:35 +0200 | <Guest8311> | oh that |
| 2022-08-04 19:27:47 +0200 | <geekosaur> | decoration artifacts would probably be https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/343 and related issues, where layout cleanup messages don't get sent to inactive layouts |
| 2022-08-04 19:28:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we're still working on that one |
| 2022-08-04 19:30:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | a bunch of contrib layouts need to be modified to forward cleanup messages to inactive layouts / layout groups |
| 2022-08-04 19:35:27 +0200 | benin0 | (~benin@2401:4900:2323:8106:8928:2ec0:5649:e0a1) |
| 2022-08-04 19:37:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | also as to maintainers, there are four of us. but three of them are pretty busy of late with other things so I'm kinda holding down the firt. that said Solid was on earlier |
| 2022-08-04 19:37:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and liskin may peek in later |
| 2022-08-04 19:40:46 +0200 | benin0 | (~benin@2401:4900:2323:8106:8928:2ec0:5649:e0a1) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2022-08-04 19:41:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *fort |
| 2022-08-04 19:43:52 +0200 | byorgey | (~byorgey@155.138.238.211) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-08-04 19:44:52 +0200 | <Guest8311> | xmonad is the best tiling wm |
| 2022-08-04 19:44:58 +0200 | <Guest8311> | I've tried everything out ther |
| 2022-08-04 19:45:01 +0200 | <Guest8311> | there* |
| 2022-08-04 19:45:07 +0200 | <Guest8311> | xmonad is far ahead |
| 2022-08-04 19:45:16 +0200 | <Guest8311> | is it haskell that's holding it back? |
| 2022-08-04 19:48:05 +0200 | diep | (~diep@2a01:cb11:2d7:4a00:a13f:e40c:c4e8:736c) |
| 2022-08-04 19:49:40 +0200 | Guest8311 | (~Guest83@114.143.131.219) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2022-08-04 19:49:43 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | In the sense that lots of people are afraid of it, yes |
| 2022-08-04 19:51:57 +0200 | logzet | (~quassel@2001:9e8:e50d:7a00:dabb:c1ff:fed3:a1b9) |
| 2022-08-04 20:01:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and you're far from the only one who pops up looking for help with the syntax; I woke up this morning to find 5 or 6 of them with Solid trying to deal with all of them at once 🙂 |
| 2022-08-04 20:12:56 +0200 | Guest8383 | (~Guest83@114.143.131.219) |
| 2022-08-04 20:13:21 +0200 | <Guest8383> | geekosaur I came across that fringing problem again |
| 2022-08-04 20:13:32 +0200 | <Guest8383> | It was one of the reasons I had to write my config from scratch |
| 2022-08-04 20:13:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | fringing? |
| 2022-08-04 20:14:02 +0200 | <Guest8383> | so it seems like "XMonad.Layout.SubLayouts" doesn't play well with decorations |
| 2022-08-04 20:14:06 +0200 | <Guest8383> | wait ill send a picture |
| 2022-08-04 20:15:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | no, it's probably one that fails to send cleanup messages |
| 2022-08-04 20:15:45 +0200 | <Guest8383> | https://imgur.com/a/dC917ey |
| 2022-08-04 20:19:04 +0200 | <Guest8383> | Is there a way to fix this? |
| 2022-08-04 20:19:29 +0200 | <Guest8383> | btw, the problem doesn't occur when I apply the decoration to both the layouts |
| 2022-08-04 20:19:32 +0200 | <Guest8383> | i have |
| 2022-08-04 20:19:35 +0200 | <diep> | ReHi guys, Im looking for a way to match on window property class with regex, I want to match "jetbrains-*", but cant figure out how to do this exactly. I found in docs XMonad.Util.WindowPropertiesRE but there is no example how to use these functions :/ |
| 2022-08-04 20:19:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the documentation says no |
| 2022-08-04 20:19:43 +0200 | <Guest8383> | but I don't want the decorations on full |
| 2022-08-04 20:19:51 +0200 | <geekosaur> | see the very bottom of https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-SubLayouts.html |
| 2022-08-04 20:22:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | diep, that's more for layouts like ComboP that want to use "managehooks" as part of a layout |
| 2022-08-04 20:23:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you have something that does regexp matching then you can use it with fmap / <$> |
| 2022-08-04 20:24:51 +0200 | <Guest8383> | geekosaur but they mention that subtabbed works well |
| 2022-08-04 20:24:58 +0200 | <Guest8383> | which is what im using but it fails |
| 2022-08-04 20:25:15 +0200 | <Guest8383> | everything works well when I apply decorations to all the layouts |
| 2022-08-04 20:25:16 +0200 | <geekosaur> | they say it works better but still has problems, as I read it |
| 2022-08-04 20:25:31 +0200 | <Guest8383> | but it works well when i apply it to all the layouts |
| 2022-08-04 20:25:39 +0200 | <Guest8383> | but i dont want decorations on full |
| 2022-08-04 20:25:42 +0200 | <Guest8383> | so as a workaround |
| 2022-08-04 20:25:52 +0200 | <Guest8383> | i thought that ill use jumptolayout |
| 2022-08-04 20:25:57 +0200 | <Guest8383> | to switch to full |
| 2022-08-04 20:26:09 +0200 | <Guest8383> | and remove full from my layouthook |
| 2022-08-04 20:26:14 +0200 | <Guest8383> | how bout that? |
| 2022-08-04 20:26:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | jumpToLayout requires it to be part of your layout |
| 2022-08-04 20:26:31 +0200 | <Guest8383> | ughh |
| 2022-08-04 20:26:34 +0200 | <geekosaur> | setLayout doesn't |
| 2022-08-04 20:26:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but will be lost of mod0q and in a few other situations |
| 2022-08-04 20:26:55 +0200 | <Guest8383> | would that solve the problem then? |
| 2022-08-04 20:26:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *on mod-q |
| 2022-08-04 20:27:22 +0200 | <Guest8383> | lost on recompile and restart? |
| 2022-08-04 20:27:23 +0200 | <diep> | geekosaur, ok |
| 2022-08-04 20:27:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it might leave the decorations with no way to clear them since there would be no chance to send ReleaseResources |
| 2022-08-04 20:27:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | diep, it looks like WindowPropertiesRE gives you a match operator ~? |
| 2022-08-04 20:28:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | which works like =? |
| 2022-08-04 20:28:07 +0200 | <geekosaur> | except it takes a regexp |
| 2022-08-04 20:29:15 +0200 | <diep> | yes so I'll try to use it |
| 2022-08-04 20:29:24 +0200 | <diep> | seems to be what Im looking for |
| 2022-08-04 20:29:44 +0200 | <diep> | I just need to know how I write my regex pattern correctly |
| 2022-08-04 20:29:58 +0200 | <diep> | maybe `"jetbrains-*"` is okay? |
| 2022-08-04 20:30:10 +0200 | <geekosaur> | no, that's a glob |
| 2022-08-04 20:30:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but if all you want is for it to match a prefix, how about XMonad.Hooks.ManageHelpers.^= |
| 2022-08-04 20:30:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | title ^= "jetbrains-" |
| 2022-08-04 20:31:12 +0200 | <diep> | yes this is what Im looking for |
| 2022-08-04 20:31:34 +0200 | <diep> | but ~? "jetbrains-.*" should work too isnt it? |
| 2022-08-04 20:31:47 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes, it'll just be slower |
| 2022-08-04 20:32:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I tend to avoid regexp unless I really need it |
| 2022-08-04 20:32:12 +0200 | <diep> | yes you're probably right |
| 2022-08-04 20:32:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (and I've been using regexps for around 40 years…) |
| 2022-08-04 20:32:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and in particular xmonad-extras drags in a bunch of other dependencies, not just regexps |
| 2022-08-04 20:32:40 +0200 | <Guest8383> | this doesn't seem to work: |
| 2022-08-04 20:32:41 +0200 | <Guest8383> | ("M-u", setLayout "Full"), |
| 2022-08-04 20:33:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | no, it'd be `setLayout Full` without the quotes |
| 2022-08-04 20:33:06 +0200 | <diep> | it was a long run 40 years^^ |
| 2022-08-04 20:33:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you're setting it to an actual layout, not to a name to be searched in the current layout |
| 2022-08-04 20:38:18 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Guest8383: If you don't want `subTabbed` etc on `Full`, perhaps you can just move that under `myDecorate` in `tiled`? |
| 2022-08-04 20:39:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm, actually if that is your question then the fix is to replace Full with Simplest |
| 2022-08-04 20:40:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but I thought it was about SideDecoration? |
| 2022-08-04 20:41:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (come to think of it that might apply there as well, because Full prunes its window list in ways that can confuse layout modifiers, which is why Simplest exists and is used by tabbed) |
| 2022-08-04 20:42:09 +0200 | <diep> | geekosaur: the operator from ManageHelpers to match a prefix is `^?` not `^=` :p |
| 2022-08-04 20:42:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | whoops, sorry |
| 2022-08-04 20:42:32 +0200 | <diep> | of course no problem |
| 2022-08-04 20:42:36 +0200 | geekosaur | is apparently trying to do too many things at once |
| 2022-08-04 20:42:39 +0200 | <diep> | thx for the help |
| 2022-08-04 20:42:46 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I already corrected that typo once even 😕 |
| 2022-08-04 20:44:09 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Well, the problem is just rearranging the layout so that we don't have myDecorate underneath subTabbed, which seems to be achievable if they want `something ||| Full`. |
| 2022-08-04 20:44:46 +0200 | <Guest8383> | [Leary] It was an easy fix |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:00 +0200 | <Guest8383> | myLayout = windowNavigation $ boringWindows $ (tiled ||| Full) |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:01 +0200 | <Guest8383> | where |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:01 +0200 | <Guest8383> | tiled = myDecorate $ subTabbed $ reflectHoriz $ Tall nmaster delta ratio |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:02 +0200 | <Guest8383> | nmaster = 1 -- Default number of windows in the master pane |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:02 +0200 | <Guest8383> | ratio = 1/2 -- Default proportion of screen occupied by master pane |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:03 +0200 | <Guest8383> | delta = 3/100 -- Percent of screen to increment by when resizing panes |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:12 +0200 | <Guest8383> | I rewrote my entire config thinking everything was broken lol |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:26 +0200 | <Guest8383> | moving subtabbed to tiled fixed everything |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:42 +0200 | <Guest8383> | thank you so much [Leary] and geekosaur |
| 2022-08-04 20:45:51 +0200 | <Guest8383> | you guys are absolutely great**** |
| 2022-08-04 20:46:28 +0200 | <Guest8383> | btw, do i then even need to apply windownavigation and boringwindows on all layouts or do i move them to tiled too? |
| 2022-08-04 20:46:47 +0200 | <geekosaur> | up to you |
| 2022-08-04 20:46:57 +0200 | <geekosaur> | not wure WN is all that useful with Full though |
| 2022-08-04 20:46:57 +0200 | <Guest8383> | but what difference does it make? |
| 2022-08-04 20:47:44 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and boringWindows just makes WN behave a bit better so they should go together |
| 2022-08-04 20:47:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | *sure |
| 2022-08-04 20:48:34 +0200 | <Guest8383> | okay |
| 2022-08-04 21:00:53 +0200 | <Guest8383> | also |
| 2022-08-04 21:00:57 +0200 | <Guest8383> | why doesn't this: |
| 2022-08-04 21:01:00 +0200 | <Guest8383> | ("M-u", setLayout Full), |
| 2022-08-04 21:01:02 +0200 | <Guest8383> | work? |
| 2022-08-04 21:01:13 +0200 | <Guest8383> | i don't understand the types expected by setLayout? |
| 2022-08-04 21:01:33 +0200 | <geekosaur> | oh, hm. I bet it needs a layout wrapped in an existential |
| 2022-08-04 21:01:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that's going to bve harder |
| 2022-08-04 21:02:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but since you've solved the problem with Full in the layout, you can go back to using JumpToLayout |
| 2022-08-04 21:03:31 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we do something slightly evil with layouts, since otherwise we can't sanely work with them because their types depend on exactly what you've done |
| 2022-08-04 21:06:48 +0200 | <diep> | In my manageHook, there is a way to add to a match, like `className =? "feh"`, both `doFloat` and `hasBorder False` instructions? |
| 2022-08-04 21:07:43 +0200 | <diep> | Or I have to write two separate match, one to apply doFloat, the other one hasBorder? |
| 2022-08-04 21:08:44 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | Use `<>` to combine them |
| 2022-08-04 21:09:01 +0200 | <diep> | I try |
| 2022-08-04 21:10:10 +0200 | <diep> | thx again, works perfectly |
| 2022-08-04 21:12:22 +0200 | <Guest8383> | geekosaur ughh |
| 2022-08-04 21:12:33 +0200 | <Guest8383> | this time I wanted to use another layout to jump to |
| 2022-08-04 21:13:06 +0200 | <Guest8383> | isn't there a way to jump to a layout and not have to cycle through it |
| 2022-08-04 21:13:19 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | Nope |
| 2022-08-04 21:13:30 +0200 | <Guest8383> | okay |
| 2022-08-04 21:13:56 +0200 | <Guest8383> | I would say that one thing is necessary |
| 2022-08-04 21:14:04 +0200 | <Guest8383> | really needed that |
| 2022-08-04 21:14:48 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | A layout is secretly a function; it has to be run to get to a particular point in it |
| 2022-08-04 21:17:43 +0200 | <geekosaur[m]> | This is also why you can't go backwards |
| 2022-08-04 21:20:49 +0200 | <[Leary]> | You can write a layout modifier which takes some `X Bool` predicate (say, reading a toggle from extensible state) and switches into an alternative layout when it holds. |
| 2022-08-04 21:21:00 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Not sure if we have something like that already. |
| 2022-08-04 21:21:53 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Oh, actually I guess you need Read? |
| 2022-08-04 21:22:03 +0200 | <[Leary]> | That's a pain. |
| 2022-08-04 21:22:14 +0200 | <geekosaur> | see how (|||) works |
| 2022-08-04 21:23:47 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you can do something like that but you need to hide the predicate inside the implementation |
| 2022-08-04 21:24:16 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so you could for example take a String and compare it against something in XS |
| 2022-08-04 21:24:45 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Right, or have it sent with the message, and store the result for runLayout. |
| 2022-08-04 21:24:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you can also send it a predicate via a message, which doesn't require Read since it's not serialized |
| 2022-08-04 21:27:07 +0200 | <[Leary]> | I suspect this would generalise several layout modifiers... |
| 2022-08-04 21:27:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | likely |
| 2022-08-04 21:28:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think we already have a note in an issue to consider merging some layout modifiers that way, but we decided it would be too confusing for users unless we still provided the originals as wrappers for it |
| 2022-08-04 21:55:19 +0200 | diep | (~diep@2a01:cb11:2d7:4a00:a13f:e40c:c4e8:736c) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-08-04 22:17:51 +0200 | <Guest8383> | hey geekosaur |
| 2022-08-04 22:17:56 +0200 | <Guest8383> | one more thing btw |
| 2022-08-04 22:18:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | yes? |
| 2022-08-04 22:18:10 +0200 | <Guest8383> | when using a subtabbed layout |
| 2022-08-04 22:18:28 +0200 | <Guest8383> | suppose i have a tabbed group with three tabs on my left half of the screen |
| 2022-08-04 22:18:33 +0200 | <Guest8383> | and my focus is on that group |
| 2022-08-04 22:18:41 +0200 | <Guest8383> | then |
| 2022-08-04 22:18:49 +0200 | <Guest8383> | using the binding to toggle the scratchpads |
| 2022-08-04 22:19:01 +0200 | <Guest8383> | also affects the tabgroup |
| 2022-08-04 22:19:13 +0200 | <Guest8383> | in the background it switches to the first tab |
| 2022-08-04 22:19:18 +0200 | <Guest8383> | why is that? |
| 2022-08-04 22:19:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | because there's really only one list of windows for the workspace and it gets ordered somewhat oddly especially when sublayouts are in use |
| 2022-08-04 22:20:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | TrackFloating may help some |
| 2022-08-04 22:20:23 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-TrackFloating.html |
| 2022-08-04 22:20:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but ultimately it's a fundamental bug in how we track windows that is really hard to fix without breaking compatibility |
| 2022-08-04 22:21:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the StackSet is unforgiving and doesn't quite behave the same way people think |
| 2022-08-04 22:22:00 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-04 22:23:29 +0200 | <Guest8383> | umm |
| 2022-08-04 22:23:45 +0200 | <Guest8383> | applying trackfloating to my layout doesn't fix the problem |
| 2022-08-04 22:23:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I did say "may help" |
| 2022-08-04 22:24:10 +0200 | <Guest8383> | oh so is that something I'll have to live with? |
| 2022-08-04 22:24:20 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-04 22:25:02 +0200 | <geekosaur> | really, things like floating windows (in particular ones managed in a different way, like scratchpads) really ought to have their own stacks instead of being intermingled into the same underlying workspace stack |
| 2022-08-04 22:25:31 +0200 | <Guest8383> | but that's not the case here right? |
| 2022-08-04 22:25:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | wherever the window gets inserted will affect display of every other window in the stack, leading to the behavior you're seeing. and yes, you'll just have to live with it |
| 2022-08-04 22:25:51 +0200 | <Guest8383> | ugh |
| 2022-08-04 22:26:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | someday I'll get all the old bugs transferred over to github maybe; this was bug 4 in the original bug tracker, to tell you how long it's been around |
| 2022-08-04 22:26:35 +0200 | <Guest8383> | damn |
| 2022-08-04 22:27:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it is *by far* our biggest shortcoming 😞 |
| 2022-08-04 22:27:12 +0200 | <Guest8383> | why is xmonad's development so slow? |
| 2022-08-04 22:27:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | because nobody wants to break the core, including breaking backward compatibility |
| 2022-08-04 22:27:59 +0200 | <geekosaur> | redoing the StackSet and its relationship to workspaces would break pretty much everything, sadly |
| 2022-08-04 22:28:39 +0200 | <Guest8383> | so why not do it in an entirely new release |
| 2022-08-04 22:29:01 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we'd have to remove pretty much all of contrib as part of that release |
| 2022-08-04 22:29:26 +0200 | <Guest8383> | If that's done then that'll be one of the best days of my life |
| 2022-08-04 22:29:29 +0200 | <Guest8383> | not kidding |
| 2022-08-04 22:29:37 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it'd all have to be redone from scratch, and who knows where the original contributors are? and some of the things in there we don't really understand enough to rewrite |
| 2022-08-04 22:29:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | like nobody wants to touch MultiToggle |
| 2022-08-04 22:30:12 +0200 | <Guest8383> | I always dream of xmonad's clone in rust |
| 2022-08-04 22:30:58 +0200 | <geekosaur> | wouldn't surprise me if it happens, although it's a bit more likely to actually be a dwm clone (xmonad is more or less dwm done in haskell) |
| 2022-08-04 22:31:36 +0200 | <Guest8383> | so dwm is older than xmonad? |
| 2022-08-04 22:31:44 +0200 | <Guest8383> | I actually came from dwm |
| 2022-08-04 22:32:02 +0200 | <Guest8383> | I was tired of patching things and then fixing and fiddling with patches |
| 2022-08-04 22:32:10 +0200 | <Guest8383> | not the way I'd want to configure things |
| 2022-08-04 22:32:16 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Guest8383: I wrote X.L.StateFull.focusTracking to fix this issue, but iirc it somewhat duplicated the module geekosaur recommended; I'm not sure how different they are. That said, I don't see why it shouldn't work if you apply it to the sublayout. |
| 2022-08-04 22:32:27 +0200 | <Guest8383> | and xmonad has more features i think |
| 2022-08-04 22:33:57 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-04 22:34:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | sjanssen came from dwm and felt that a haskell dsl would be an improvement over patching the window manager core to add features, so xmonad was born |
| 2022-08-04 22:34:42 +0200 | <geekosaur> | the core is still almost identical to what he wrote back in 2006 |
| 2022-08-04 22:35:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | we've moved some things into the config record that had been hardcoded and added basic support for extensiblestate, but I think that's pretty much it for changes to the core |
| 2022-08-04 22:35:31 +0200 | <Guest8383> | Isn't janssen the same guy who wrote kmonad? |
| 2022-08-04 22:35:56 +0200 | <Guest8383> | [Leary] I'm not sure if i did it correctly but doesn't seem to worl |
| 2022-08-04 22:35:59 +0200 | <Guest8383> | work* |
| 2022-08-04 22:36:05 +0200 | <geekosaur> | spencer janssen, not david |
| 2022-08-04 22:36:14 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-04 22:36:22 +0200 | <Guest8383> | oh |
| 2022-08-04 22:36:25 +0200 | <Guest8383> | hehe |
| 2022-08-04 22:36:29 +0200 | <Guest8383> | [Leary] |
| 2022-08-04 22:36:30 +0200 | <Guest8383> | import XMonad.Layout.StateFull (focusTracking) |
| 2022-08-04 22:36:31 +0200 | <Guest8383> | myLayout = (tiled ||| Full) |
| 2022-08-04 22:36:31 +0200 | <Guest8383> | where |
| 2022-08-04 22:36:32 +0200 | <Guest8383> | tiled = focusTracking $ myDecorate $ windowNavigation $ subTabbed $ boringWindows $ reflectHoriz $ Tall nmaster delta ratio |
| 2022-08-04 22:37:01 +0200 | <[Leary]> | Try putting it under subTabbed. |
| 2022-08-04 22:39:24 +0200 | <Guest8383> | like this: |
| 2022-08-04 22:39:26 +0200 | <Guest8383> | tiled = myDecorate $ windowNavigation $ subTabbed $ focusTracking $ boringWindows $ reflectHoriz $ Tall nmaster delta ratio |
| 2022-08-04 22:39:32 +0200 | <Guest8383> | this failed |
| 2022-08-04 22:47:26 +0200 | <Guest8383> | [Leary] ? |
| 2022-08-04 22:47:41 +0200 | <Guest8383> | [Leary] |
| 2022-08-04 22:48:41 +0200 | <[Leary]> | I don't really know what's going wrong; it's always worked for me. Perhaps below boringWindows too? I can't remember how that one works. But I need to go, so I can't really help more. |
| 2022-08-04 22:49:54 +0200 | <Guest8383> | do i need refocuslast too? |
| 2022-08-04 22:50:39 +0200 | <Guest8383> | okay |
| 2022-08-04 22:50:43 +0200 | <Guest8383> | perhaps some other time |
| 2022-08-04 22:50:51 +0200 | <Guest8383> | i need to go to |
| 2022-08-04 22:51:00 +0200 | <Guest8383> | gud night everyone... thanks for all the help |
| 2022-08-04 23:06:54 +0200 | <Guest8383> | geekosaur what's the recommended way of installing xmonad? |
| 2022-08-04 23:07:07 +0200 | <Guest8383> | arch package manager or cabal or stack? |
| 2022-08-04 23:07:28 +0200 | <Guest8383> | I installed using cabal and frequently get errors similar to this: |
| 2022-08-04 23:08:33 +0200 | <Guest8383> | https://imgur.com/a/Qtsy86y |
| 2022-08-04 23:08:37 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-04 23:11:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | that just looks like a typo (note the case of the ""m") |
| 2022-08-04 23:12:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think most people use stack, especially on Arch because you have to jump through hoops otherwise |
| 2022-08-04 23:12:25 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but I use cabal |
| 2022-08-04 23:12:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "Xmonad" vs. "XMonad" |
| 2022-08-04 23:15:08 +0200 | Guest8383 | (~Guest83@114.143.131.219) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2022-08-04 23:19:47 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |
| 2022-08-04 23:19:49 +0200 | <geekosaur> | whoops |
| 2022-08-04 23:29:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | @tell Guest8383 https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lcxmonad?id=76768#trid76768 |
| 2022-08-04 23:29:11 +0200 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
| 2022-08-04 23:32:00 +0200 | <Etxeberrialex[m]> | <Guest8383> "arch package manager or cabal or..." <- I use stack installed with ghcup |
| 2022-08-04 23:46:24 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-08-04 23:47:34 +0200 | sogens | (~sogens@211.30.173.20) |