2022/07/06

2022-07-06 00:00:36 +0200 <geekosaur> it looks like I missed something, stack.yaml probably
2022-07-06 00:01:02 +0200 <geekosaur> hm, no
2022-07-06 00:01:32 +0200 <geekosaur> anyway it seems contrib has the new dependency but is still trying to build against the old xmonad, which means the build plan is failing
2022-07-06 00:02:49 +0200 <geekosaur> sigh. does this require something stupid like uploading to hackage for contrib build to find the updated xmonad?
2022-07-06 00:02:57 +0200 <geekosaur> if so I'll just revert those changes
2022-07-06 00:04:24 +0200 <liskin> well, last time we had to bump the lower bound (and we actually had a really good reason for that), we disabled half of the testing matrix for a couple months
2022-07-06 00:04:24 +0200 <geekosaur> means some people may get the fix but not see/know it because they didn't also update xmonad
2022-07-06 00:04:41 +0200 <geekosaur> right, that's probably the same thing, need to update on hackage
2022-07-06 00:04:52 +0200 <liskin> because part of the testing matrix makes sure that git xmonad-contrib builds against xmonad core release
2022-07-06 00:05:00 +0200 <geekosaur> I had to futz around a lot locally while testing
2022-07-06 00:05:17 +0200 <liskin> so yeah in this case I'd say just undo the bump
2022-07-06 00:05:23 +0200 <geekosaur> so I just reverted the bump and force-pushed
2022-07-06 00:05:31 +0200 <geekosaur> we'll get over it
2022-07-06 00:07:50 +0200 <geekosaur> and the user who was having problems with StatusBar now says they hit a typo in TUTORIAL so I asked them to report it. let's see if they do
2022-07-06 00:08:29 +0200 <geekosaur> (and everything is now working without the hack of doing dynamicLogString directly)
2022-07-06 00:10:53 +0200 <liskin> you only reverted the changelog revert so I pushed the actual revert of revert
2022-07-06 00:11:01 +0200 <geekosaur> oh, sorry
2022-07-06 00:11:02 +0200 <liskin> which had conflicts because hlint in the meantime
2022-07-06 00:11:17 +0200 <geekosaur> confused that with a merge commit apparently
2022-07-06 00:11:28 +0200 <liskin> so probably best that I dealt with it because HLS makes it super easy
2022-07-06 00:11:32 +0200 <geekosaur> here I was thinking I was starting to figure git out 🙂
2022-07-06 00:11:42 +0200 <liskin> although not entirely because of course it has a different hlint version than our CI :-)
2022-07-06 00:13:06 +0200 <liskin> oh and I should deal with the failing Nix pipeline :-/
2022-07-06 00:13:13 +0200 <liskin> but I'm swamped with dayjob stuff
2022-07-06 00:14:50 +0200 <geekosaur> it happens
2022-07-06 00:15:15 +0200 <geekosaur> I'm fihting with a recalcitrant backup and still more SSD paperwork
2022-07-06 01:36:51 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> <geekosaur> "that's what I figured, since I..." <- How do you see what plugins are activated? I know Fedora has the with_weather package since I have configured weather
2022-07-06 01:37:16 +0200 <geekosaur> I dug out their package build info
2022-07-06 01:38:26 +0200 <geekosaur> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xmobar/blob/rawhide/f/xmobar-flags.patch
2022-07-06 01:39:11 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> Ah, thanks!
2022-07-06 01:39:21 +0200 <geekosaur> I don't know if xmobar [provides a way to otherwise check what plugins it was built with
2022-07-06 01:41:12 +0200 <geekosaur> mm, guess that's for rawhide, not a release fedora, but I expect they'd be pretty similar
2022-07-06 01:43:45 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> Yeah, it's the same file as here: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xmobar/blob/f36/f/xmobar-flags.patch
2022-07-06 01:44:40 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> Probably will compile it myself then
2022-07-06 01:44:54 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> using cabal
2022-07-06 01:46:53 +0200 <geekosaur> probably need to install the alsa devel package, whatever fedora calls it (it was libasound-dev on ubuntu but that may not help much)
2022-07-06 02:09:05 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> Yep, alsa-lib-devel
2022-07-06 02:09:15 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> is what Fedora calls it
2022-07-06 02:11:12 +0200 <geekosaur> yeh, alsa-dev on ubuntu was about writing alsa plugins apparently
2022-07-06 02:27:47 +0200sogens(~sogens@gateway/vpn/pia/sogens)
2022-07-06 02:58:35 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> Why does `cabal install xmobar --flags="all_extensions"` try and build xmobar-0.11.1 while having just `--flags="with_alsa"` tries and builds xmobar-0.41?
2022-07-06 03:07:15 +0200 <geekosaur[m]> The solver probably can't find libraries for newer versions' plugins
2022-07-06 03:08:02 +0200 <geekosaur[m]> Music player plugins seem likely
2022-07-06 03:24:22 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> Where can I find all the dependencies for building version 0.43?
2022-07-06 03:32:49 +0200 <scotabroad[m]> Oh wait, I think I've gotten it
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2022-07-06 07:35:14 +0200 <Solid> geekosaur[m] liskin: the whole dependency thing seems like a good excuse to release 0.17.1 soon :)
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2022-07-06 14:15:33 +0200 <Jade1> Is there a way to preselect where the next window will go? when I have only one window open and I open a new one I want the *new* window to be the first item of the stack and not for it to become the master window and the existing is put into the stack
2022-07-06 14:20:47 +0200 <Lears> Jade1: Try X.H.InsertPosition.
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2022-07-06 14:57:45 +0200 <geekosaur> Solid liskin: I'd say the XQueryColor etc. bug justify it. although now I want to grep for X(Query|Lookup)Color elsewhere in the codebase
2022-07-06 14:58:38 +0200 <geekosaur> actually it looks like those were it
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2022-07-06 16:53:52 +0200 <twiclo1> I'm running a spawn that isn't working. I would guess that it's because xmonad doesn't have access to the command. I put it in .xmonad/scripts. Do I nee dto link that to /usr/bin or something?
2022-07-06 17:00:03 +0200 <geekosaur> adding random stuff to /usr/bin is rarely a good idea. you can (a) use a full path; (b) use `setEnv` in `main` to add it to your `PATH`; (c) arrange for `PATH` to be set by `.xsession` or whatever you use to start xmonad
2022-07-06 17:00:39 +0200 <geekosaur> (unless you're on Fedora, setting it in `.bash_profile` or `.bashrc` will not work as X startup doesn't read either one)
2022-07-06 17:09:05 +0200 <geekosaur> of the three, I recommend (c) because that means it's set in one place instead of having to make updates in multiple places later
2022-07-06 17:09:13 +0200 <twiclo1> Changing my smartSpacingWithEdge value and recompiling then restarting xmonad doesn't actually change spacing
2022-07-06 17:09:23 +0200 <geekosaur> mod-shift-space
2022-07-06 17:09:37 +0200 <twiclo1> What is that supposed to do? It didn't so anything
2022-07-06 17:10:19 +0200 <geekosaur> hm. it forces the layout to be recomputed, since restart can't tell the difference between settings in your .xmonad and settings changed on the fly like (with default keybindings) mod-comma
2022-07-06 17:11:23 +0200 <geekosaur> if you changed your keybindings then you want to use whatever you bound to setLayout $ XMonad.layoutHook conf
2022-07-06 17:11:44 +0200 <geekosaur> (just look for setLayout, that may have several different forms)
2022-07-06 17:13:48 +0200 <geekosaur> if you don't have it bound at all then you may have to log out and back in
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2022-07-06 17:44:23 +0200 <geekosaur> if you care, xmonad will recompute the layout on mod-q by itself if its type changes; merely changing a value within it isn't detectable, and that setLayout call is needed to bring it back into sync
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2022-07-06 18:37:21 +0200 <liskin> Solid, geekosaur: Hm yeah but maybe we could check what's left on the stripModMask stuff. That would be nice to get into an xmonad core version bump...
2022-07-06 18:37:41 +0200 <liskin> Won't get to it until the weekend likely
2022-07-06 18:39:53 +0200 <geekosaur> not like someone's pointing a gun to our heads re release, especially given almost nobody's picked up the last one yet
2022-07-06 18:43:33 +0200 <Solid> I'll also be away for ~2 weeks starting Friday (not that you can't do the release without me, just fyi :)
2022-07-06 18:52:39 +0200 <liskin> Well it's an opportunity to write an announcement so that people know we're still alive and working on stuff :-)
2022-07-06 18:53:03 +0200 <liskin> Some of us at least
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