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2022-05-24 02:21:30 +0200FernandoSchuindt(~fschuindt@2001:470:69fc:105::2:17cd)
2022-05-24 02:24:11 +0200 <FernandoSchuindt> Hi there, folks. My first 24h with xmonad here, I should confess I thought it was going to be harder, but might be too soon to speak. Just a newbie question here, I'm calling some Bash scripts by adding them to the /usr/bin/ and calling them using spawn on the xmonad.hs. But I think it would be better to have those files into ~/.xmonad/shell_scripts/. I tried adding that directory to the PATH, but xmonad fails to find them. Any tips
2022-05-24 02:24:11 +0200 <FernandoSchuindt> here?
2022-05-24 02:25:03 +0200 <geekosaur> typically X11 startup doesn't read your dotfiles, so xmonad won't know your $PATH, only terminals will
2022-05-24 02:25:09 +0200 <geekosaur> (unless you use startx)
2022-05-24 02:26:24 +0200 <geekosaur> I use a wrapper script to start xmonad with the right PATH and other settings, since my xmonad is started by mate-session. others set it in .xsession, which is the more common way to start xmonad
2022-05-24 02:26:53 +0200 <geekosaur> `source ~/.profile` or `source ~/.bash_profile` as appropriate
2022-05-24 02:30:51 +0200 <[Leary]> FernandoSchuindt: If they're not intimately tied to xmonad but are shell scripts you might want to run in an interactive shell, I would put them in ~/.local/bin instead. If they *are* only used from xmonad, why pollute $PATH with them? Just run them with their full path.
2022-05-24 02:33:06 +0200 <geekosaur> there's also https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-Script.html
2022-05-24 02:33:35 +0200 <geekosaur> although imo that's awfully silly when you could just spawn it
2022-05-24 02:37:13 +0200 <FernandoSchuindt> thank you geekosaur and [Leary]
2022-05-24 02:37:13 +0200 <FernandoSchuindt> I think I'm going to use ~/.local/bin, it's working great and it's within home anyway. thank you!
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2022-05-24 06:53:55 +0200spaceseller(~spacesell@31.147.205.13)
2022-05-24 06:57:57 +0200 <spaceseller> xmobar shows keyboard layout and it is 'ch' until I open some window. What 'ch' means?
2022-05-24 06:58:49 +0200 <spaceseller> I only have 'us' and' 'hr' keyboard
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2022-05-24 07:26:31 +0200 <jao> usually, ch means switzerland
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2022-05-24 07:44:27 +0200spaceseller(~spacesell@31.147.205.13)
2022-05-24 07:45:29 +0200 <spaceseller> what is the best practice to know how many windows are opened on all workspace?
2022-05-24 07:46:57 +0200 <spaceseller> do you look through all workspace before shutting down or you have some indicator in xmobar?
2022-05-24 07:47:47 +0200Solidonly shows the workspaces in xmobar that have windows on them
2022-05-24 07:48:43 +0200 <Solid> (also workspaces are topic based so it's easy to guess which windows there are when e.g. IRC is still shown)
2022-05-24 07:49:23 +0200 <spaceseller> thnx Solid, I will added it to the xmobar
2022-05-24 07:50:06 +0200 <spaceseller> it shows workspace icons?
2022-05-24 07:51:59 +0200 <Solid> I mean that xmobar only displays the names of the workspaces with windows on them
2022-05-24 07:52:38 +0200 <Solid> for example, while I have ~30 workpsaces, only 5 of them are shown in xmobar right now because the rest is empty
2022-05-24 08:00:58 +0200 <spaceseller> I understand, I'm looking for a code right now?
2022-05-24 08:01:06 +0200 <spaceseller> I understand, I'm looking for a code right now.
2022-05-24 08:02:19 +0200 <spaceseller> the simplest one
2022-05-24 08:06:04 +0200 <Solid> AFAIK this is the default behaviour
2022-05-24 08:06:19 +0200 <Solid> you just don't want to override ppHiddenNoWindows
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2022-05-24 08:13:17 +0200 <spaceseller> didn't get it. As I read, ppHiddenNoWindows is in xmonad.hs
2022-05-24 08:15:42 +0200 <spaceseller> I suppose that I need change .xmobarrc code as well
2022-05-24 08:18:30 +0200 <Solid> I meant that you need to _remove_ ppHiddenNoWindows from your config
2022-05-24 08:18:37 +0200 <Solid> its default value is to suppress these workspaces
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2022-05-24 09:05:29 +0200Ether17(~Ether17@103.217.111.249)
2022-05-24 09:07:39 +0200 <Ether17> so i was able to read the docs and update To XMonad.Hooks.StatusBar. And i have like 3 PP once of which is long; https://github.com/Ahanaf-Ether/xmonad/blob/stable/xmonad.hs i cant add clickablePP.
2022-05-24 09:07:57 +0200 <Ether17> once: one*
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2022-05-24 10:13:34 +0200 <AntonioRomano[m]> Is there a way to set a manual tiling mode in xmonad?
2022-05-24 10:17:36 +0200 <fizzie> Depending on exactly what you mean by "manual tiling mode", https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-BinarySpacePartition.… may qualify as that. Or at least I've heard the bspwm style called "manual".
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2022-05-24 10:24:49 +0200 <AntonioRomano[m]> Yes I'm talking about something like bspwm. I love the way it works. Thank you!
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2022-05-24 11:56:42 +0200 <RudraveerMandal[> How do I allow xmonad passthrough mode
2022-05-24 11:57:10 +0200 <RudraveerMandal[> To run waydroid I am using sway on another TTY
2022-05-24 11:57:49 +0200 <RudraveerMandal[> bc I cant use it as a window on xmonad
2022-05-24 11:57:55 +0200 <RudraveerMandal[> none of the shortcuts work
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2022-05-24 15:47:29 +0200 <Drishal[m]> <geekosaur> "Drishal, if you can't know the..." <- or else just toggle layout is the last resort then ig
2022-05-24 15:49:24 +0200 <Drishal[m]> btw I am having some really weird issues with xmoand
2022-05-24 15:49:24 +0200 <Drishal[m]> for eg if I were to copy files in say, nemo/thunar/any other minimal file manager it just completely freezes after a few seconds till the copying is complete in xmonad
2022-05-24 15:49:24 +0200 <Drishal[m]> wherease if I were to do the same thing in dwm it works absolutely fine
2022-05-24 15:49:24 +0200 <Drishal[m]> does not make a difference with using xf86-video-amdgpu or modesetting 👀
2022-05-24 15:53:42 +0200 <geekosaur> I've never heard that (or seen it, although I don't use a minimal file manager)
2022-05-24 15:55:02 +0200 <geekosaur> *heard of
2022-05-24 15:57:29 +0200mc47(~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47)
2022-05-24 15:58:13 +0200 <Drishal[m]> hmm this happens to me always, both on nixos and also arch
2022-05-24 15:58:21 +0200 <Drishal[m]> geekosaur: which file manager do you use?
2022-05-24 15:58:36 +0200 <geekosaur> caja, mate's filemanager
2022-05-24 15:59:01 +0200 <Drishal[m]> ah I need to try caja instead 🤔
2022-05-24 15:59:10 +0200 <geekosaur> you're not by any chance copying to an external usb2 drive or something?
2022-05-24 15:59:24 +0200 <Drishal[m]> have you tried thunar or nemo on xmonad?
2022-05-24 15:59:29 +0200 <geekosaur> (that in my experience hogs all cpu on linux and pretty much nothing works)
2022-05-24 15:59:56 +0200 <geekosaur> I can't really see xmonad being involved because xmonad isn't involved with window updates, only with window placement policy
2022-05-24 16:00:06 +0200 <geekosaur> once a window has been placed xmonad is no longer involved
2022-05-24 16:01:14 +0200 <geekosaur> I haven't, no
2022-05-24 16:02:03 +0200 <geekosaur> not sure caja will run well outside of mate=session; these desktop environments are pretty exclusive, and it's rare to be even able to run xmonad as the window manager (see also gnome)
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2022-05-24 16:46:41 +0200 <spaceseller> I try to get StatusBar which is in the latest, 0.17 version. So I installed on my Arch from arch repository. Now I cant't enter, it backed me up without error
2022-05-24 16:46:58 +0200 <spaceseller> 0.16 works fine
2022-05-24 16:47:33 +0200 <geekosaur> arch does that. log in from a shell and run xmonad --recompile
2022-05-24 16:47:34 +0200 <spaceseller> except I didn't have workspace indicator
2022-05-24 16:47:49 +0200 <spaceseller> aaaa, great
2022-05-24 16:48:37 +0200 <geekosaur> and next time obey the warnings in https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/xmonad (first note with a purple background)
2022-05-24 16:49:16 +0200 <spaceseller> I will, thnx
2022-05-24 16:49:32 +0200 <geekosaur> or use ghcup to install ghc and install xmonad from git, to avoid arch's weird and buggy haskell packaging
2022-05-24 16:50:32 +0200 <spaceseller> ok
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2022-05-24 17:33:12 +0200 <spaceseller> Deafult .hs file from configuration tutorial gives me error when I recompile
2022-05-24 17:33:40 +0200 <spaceseller> Variable not in scope magenta
2022-05-24 17:33:46 +0200 <spaceseller> and other colors
2022-05-24 17:35:47 +0200 <geekosaur> did you include the where clause, and is it properly indented?
2022-05-24 17:36:25 +0200 <geekosaur> there are two blank lines within it, they do not end the where clause
2022-05-24 17:36:57 +0200 <spaceseller> I'm looking
2022-05-24 17:38:23 +0200 <geekosaur> maybe just pastebin your config
2022-05-24 17:38:26 +0200 <geekosaur> @where paste
2022-05-24 17:38:26 +0200 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2022-05-24 17:40:48 +0200 <spaceseller> found it
2022-05-24 17:41:10 +0200 <spaceseller> vim added comments
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2022-05-24 18:09:53 +0200 <Solid> Drishal[m]: I tried thunar just now and it works completely fine
2022-05-24 18:10:02 +0200 <Solid> so does my usual file manager (dired)
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